***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

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  • CMH
    Making you famous
    • Oct 2002
    • 26203

    #2026
    Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

    Originally posted by ehh
    Why in the world would he tell Locke that he has "work to do" though?
    Why would he tell Locke "Don't open it. Don't open that thing" or "Push the button. Do not push the button. Bad?"

    No one really knows. Don't open that thing was originally thought to be the hatch, but now people wonder if it's "the box" that Ben speaks of or even "the box" that Hurley's insane friend talks about in the ward.

    Was he telling Locke to push the button because not pushing it is bad or was he telling him that pushing the button and not pushing the button (debating over it) would be bad?

    Walt speaks in codes during his visions.
    "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

    "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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    • Money99
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2002
      • 12695

      #2027
      Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

      Some thoughts:

      I can't remember who posted this already, but I think he was right about the funeral being for Michael. They made a point to show that it was a black neighbourhood. Walt probably went back to living with his Mom and probably didn't want to be around his dad anymore (for what reason, I don't know).

      Did anyone consider that by Kate saying "I have to get back to him" she could have been referrering to her son? Sawyer might be dead.

      And why did Jack and Kate agree not to talk to each other? How come nobody at the pharmecy recognize Jack as one of the survivors of Oceanic 815? Why isn't Kate in jail? I thought she was running from the law.

      Was the woman that was in the accident Julliette's sister and son?

      Here's what I'm thinking. I like the idea that some got off the island and then the homing becon or radio signal were turned back on to continue hiding the island.
      When the few survivors that did make it back were discovered, the people that were involved revealed what was going on and threatened them to keep their mouths shut. Michael could have changed his name to J. 'anthom, Kate was given immunity from her crimes and Jack is allowed to continue practicing medicine. And all of them are told not to speak to each other again. This might explain why Kate didn't want to see Jack.

      But obviously something has depressed Jack. He might be upset because they left so many behind and he's been trying to find them again.

      But it's obvious that even though they got off the island they're all still lost.

      I'm wondering if Season 4 is going to be about them getting off the island. Season 5 about getting back there and the final season based on revealing everything that's going on.

      P.S. I wonder if Season 5 could even follow Jack and the survivors around, in the States, with their flashbacks being their time on the island.
      Last edited by Money99; 05-25-2007, 07:44 AM.

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      • Jerbear
        Pro
        • Jul 2006
        • 708

        #2028
        Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

        Originally posted by Money99
        How come nobody at the pharmecy recognize Jack as one of the survivors of Oceanic 815?
        I touched upon this earlier. I think they did recognize him. Did you notice when the people who did recognize him called him a hero? They didn't specify why he was a hero. I think we were to believe they meant he was because he saved the woman and the boy. When in fact they were referring to him saving everyone from the island. Thus not giving it away that it was a flash forward until the last clip with kate.

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        • Money99
          Hall Of Fame
          • Sep 2002
          • 12695

          #2029
          Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

          Originally posted by Jerbear
          I touched upon this earlier. I think they did recognize him. Did you notice when the people who did recognize him called him a hero? They didn't specify why he was a hero. I think we were to believe they meant he was because he saved the woman and the boy. When in fact they were referring to him saving everyone from the island. Thus not giving it away that it was a flash forward until the last clip with kate.
          I'm still not 100% convinced that they were calling him 'hero' because of the island. I'm also not convinced that his father is truly dead.

          I have to admit that I was losing interest in this show when it went on it's 2 month hiatus. But the last handful of episodes have been terrific.

          And what information could Locke have possibly received to become a cold blooded killer? Did he even meet Naomi before he threw that knife in her back? What would prompt him to do that? And if he was willing to go that far why didn't he shoot Jack too?

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          • aholbert32
            (aka Alberto)
            • Jul 2002
            • 33106

            #2030
            Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

            Originally posted by Money99
            Some thoughts:

            I can't remember who posted this already, but I think he was right about the funeral being for Michael. They made a point to show that it was a black neighbourhood. Walt probably went back to living with his Mom and probably didn't want to be around his dad anymore (for what reason, I don't know).


            Walts mom died before the crash.

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            • Jerbear
              Pro
              • Jul 2006
              • 708

              #2031
              Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

              Originally posted by Money99
              And what information could Locke have possibly received to become a cold blooded killer? Did he even meet Naomi before he threw that knife in her back? What would prompt him to do that? And if he was willing to go that far why didn't he shoot Jack too?
              I don't get that either. He wouldn't shoot his father after all that he did to him but he's got no problem killing a woman he's never met. What made him do that?

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              • Money99
                Hall Of Fame
                • Sep 2002
                • 12695

                #2032
                Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                Originally posted by Jerbear
                I don't get that either. He wouldn't shoot his father after all that he did to him but he's got no problem killing a woman he's never met. What made him do that?
                Exactly!
                Man, next February can't come fast enough.

                aholbert32, thanks for the info. I had forgotten about that. In fact, I've forgotten a lot. My wife and I are planning on watching every show from Season 1 to this years finale during the summer. Maybe that will help answer some questions. But I have a feeling it will leave me even more confused.

                And speaking of which, I thought we were supposed to know what that four-toed statue was all about before seasons end?

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                • matthewk
                  Pro
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 916

                  #2033
                  Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                  I'm beginning to think Jack is depressed because there are still people left on the island. When the group met Ben, Jack made a point of saying that he was getting everyone off the island. That could be why he needs to go back.

                  I don't think Walt is the smoke monster. The smoke monster only seems to take on the forms of thing that are dead. Ecko's brother, Jack's dad, Ben's mother, etc.. That is, assuming the smoke monster is the thing responsible for the visions.

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                  • fishepa
                    I'm Ron F'n Swanson!
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 18989

                    #2034
                    Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                    I still don't get the whole "smoke monster" thing and the polar bear thing.

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                    • rubisco43
                      All Star
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 4372

                      #2035
                      Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                      Originally posted by fishepa
                      I still don't get the whole "smoke monster" thing and the polar bear thing.
                      I dunno about the smoke monster, but the polar bear... Dharma was doing experiments on animals. What kind of experiments? I don't know, but that's the explanation so far.
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                      • fistofrage
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 13682

                        #2036
                        Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                        Originally posted by Money99
                        Exactly!
                        Man, next February can't come fast enough.

                        aholbert32, thanks for the info. I had forgotten about that. In fact, I've forgotten a lot. My wife and I are planning on watching every show from Season 1 to this years finale during the summer. Maybe that will help answer some questions. But I have a feeling it will leave me even more confused.

                        And speaking of which, I thought we were supposed to know what that four-toed statue was all about before seasons end?
                        I don't think you'll be any more confused, but you will be ticked off sitting through countless Anna Lou-Chia Pet flashbacks that have absolutely nothing to do with anything. You will also see countless references to numbers that are now null & void. And check out the whole Ethan Super Villain encounter that will really leave you wondering how its been so easy to kill to the others now.....
                        Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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                        • Picci
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 4517

                          #2037
                          Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                          Originally posted by ODogg
                          I read a theory today that made some sense, the island is a "hub" for alternate realities and Jack leaving in the way that he did put him on a "bad" timeline. If he could go back to the island then he could change his future. So what we saw was only one of many possible future realities.

                          I also wonder if Jack had that flash-forward in his head right at the end there, if he "saw the future" and will now try to stop the people from leaving the island because he knows that it's disaster if they do. That's how the next season may begin, with Jack doing something to stop the rescue.
                          I'm with ODogg on this alternate worlds. Watched the episode again last night. Some clues.

                          - In the end, Jack told Kate that he's been flying alot waiting for a plane crash. The beginning scene we see Jack flying and reading the newspaper clip in distraught. It can't be a lostie because Jin and his wife are seated right behind him. Wouldn't he have said something to him? Do they even know each other? Seems like Jin and Sun have escaped to LA if this crash never occurred?

                          - In the original crash, I beleive Rose was sitting next Jack. This flight from the opening scene doesn't crash but did get the turbulance and Kate isn't on this flight from the looks of the closing. He would have shown her the death notice then.

                          - Oceanic is still in business meaning no crash occurred? Troubling, because didn't Jack say he has a gold pass from them (meaning unlimited travel)?
                          So something might have happened like a crash?

                          - In this new world, Jack is messed up and Kate doesn't seem to be a fugitive. Kate would have been arrested.

                          - When (if) saved, is Hurley still a millionaire?


                          If I'm wrong, then Jack is ready to join the asylum with Libby and Hurley.

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                          • Lester206
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 1314

                            #2038
                            Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                            Originally posted by fishepa
                            I still don't get the whole "smoke monster" thing and the polar bear thing.
                            i dont think anyone is supposed to "get" anything yet

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                            • Chief Illinimac
                              Gimme the Oscar, Friendo.
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 2365

                              #2039
                              Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                              Originally posted by Picci
                              - In the end, Jack told Kate that he's been flying alot waiting for a plane crash. The beginning scene we see Jack flying and reading the newspaper clip in distraught. It can't be a lostie because Jin and his wife are seated right behind him. Wouldn't he have said something to him? Do they even know each other? Seems like Jin and Sun have escaped to LA if this crash never occurred?
                              Not all Asians on this show are Sun and Jin. They were just random extras.
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                              • born_bad
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2005
                                • 1130

                                #2040
                                Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                                Originally posted by DeeForThree
                                Not all Asians on this show are Sun and Jin. They were just random extras.
                                Lol..

                                Seriously, it would have been noted in Lostpedia and all other websites if that were Sun and Jin on the plane with him. I'd have to go back and watch it, but I've not heard of this until just now. I'm guessing they were just extras.

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