Official Blu-Ray & HD-DVD Thread

[The Chef]

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Link doesnt work anymore, keep getting error message. I really hope this "war" comes to end asap, the sooner that happens the better chance of overall success we get from the HDM movie standpoint.

[CaptainZombie]

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Paramount and Dreamworks continue to support HD DVD.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...orting_HD_DVD_[UPDATED]/1345

Here you go:

UPDATE: We have received word from Paramount/DreamWorks that although they continue to support HD DVD, they will not be making any new high-def title announcements at CES 2008.

Paramount/DreamWorks responded to Warner's shift to Blu-ray exclusivity today, saying that the studios have no plans to abandon the HD DVD format.

Following Warner's shocking defection to Blu-ray last Friday, and the subsequent cancellation by the HD DVD Promotions Group of its planned CES media event Sunday night, speculation has run rampant regarding Paramount's next move, as well as the fate of any HD DVD title announcements they had originally planned for CES.

High-Def Digest contacted Paramount for comment, and we were told by a spokesperson that despite the events of the past few days, "we are still supporting HD DVD," and that neither Paramount nor DreamWorks had any further statements on the matter at this time.

As for any Paramount HD DVD title announcements originally planned for CES, at press time any such plans were "up in the air." Needless to say, we'll keep you posted.

This here is kind of concerning to me with Paramount, because if in their contract they don't have a set amount of titles to release during the remainder of their contract.........I see a dry period. How can they be going into CES with the WB announcement only on Friday and not having any titles to announce.

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Star Trek S1 Hits 100K + 2 more seasons on the way

The label predicts that its first high-definition release, the Nov. 20 HD DVD release of Star Trek: Season One, will reach 100,000 units sold. That momentum has led the company to commit to releasing all subsequent Star Trek seasons on high-def, amounting to two more HD DVD titles. That is ambitious, as most major studios are not yet heavily mining TV DVD libraries for catalog titles to release in next-gen formats.

[The Chef]

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Not exactly a voice of confidence from either studio. HD-DVD either needs to fold it up and go home or make a big splash of some sort because silence isnt helping them at all.

[CaptainZombie]

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Not exactly a voice of confidence from either studio. HD-DVD either needs to fold it up and go home or make a big splash of some sort because silence isnt helping them at all.

Pimp, as a big HD-DVD supporter I want them to concede and I thought I would never say that. The longer that the HD-DVD group stays in business, the longer that this prolongs HDM taking off. This will give MS that needed extra to slide in w/ digital distribution and kill off HDM imo. One of the problems here is that MS created the HDi technology (which is far superior the crap BD-J which is giving SAL players issues) and I believe their plan is to get that somehow integrated into their Digital Downloads. Did anyone notice how neutral they were towards the 2 formats at CES conference, its like their now not taking sides. LOL!

I would love Toshiba to go back into full force hardware manufacturing and that means putting out some nice BluRay players putting all the other BD CE's to shame with the crap that they have released so far.

[The Chef]

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I agree with everything you said, as much as I liked HD-DVD there are plenty of reasons to like BR and once this war ends the better it will be for the early adopters. Having one format may hurt the B1G1 sales and the like but the longer the confusion exists the longer it will take to get the masses to jump into the HDM venue and from everything Ive seen it seems like thats exactly what Microsoft would want, muddy the waters enough to buy time for them to get their virtual download service off the ground. If anything, we need one steady format before Microsoft hits with their download service, if we dont then this entire war will keep going but it will be between two different formats, or venues, instead of HD-DVD vs BR.

[ExtremeGamer]

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Pimp, as a big HD-DVD supporter I want them to concede and I thought I would never say that. The longer that the HD-DVD group stays in business, the longer that this prolongs HDM taking off. This will give MS that needed extra to slide in w/ digital distribution and kill off HDM imo. One of the problems here is that MS created the HDi technology (which is far superior the crap BD-J which is giving SAL players issues) and I believe their plan is to get that somehow integrated into their Digital Downloads. Did anyone notice how neutral they were towards the 2 formats at CES conference, its like their now not taking sides. LOL!

I would love Toshiba to go back into full force hardware manufacturing and that means putting out some nice BluRay players putting all the other BD CE's to shame with the crap that they have released so far.

This post wins the award for most acronyms in a post ever.

[ExtremeGamer]

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What titles did WB announce for Blu-ray at CES?

Just because Paramount didn't announce any movies, doesn't mean it's dead.

Funny that you say in one post they announce nothing, then later in the same post, Paramount is bringing 2 more seasons of Star Trek to HD-DVD. LOL

[CaptainZombie]

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This post wins the award for most acronyms in a post ever.

You like that.... LOL!

What titles did WB announce for Blu-ray at CES?

Just because Paramount didn't announce any movies, doesn't mean it's dead.

Funny that you say in one post they announce nothing, then later in the same post, Paramount is bringing 2 more seasons of Star Trek to HD-DVD. LOL

I found that after I made my post.


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The Blu-ray camp should make a peace offering to HD-DVD fans

I actually posted this earlier today, as part of my original comments this afternoon, but we've gotten such a strong positive response to the idea, that I felt it was important to break it out into its own post this evening for emphasis.

I was thinking last night about how HD-DVD fans must be feeling right now, in the wake of Warner's announcement of their intent to go Blu-ray only later this year. We've gotten more than a few e-mails from them over the last 24 hours, as you might imagine, and they're understandably feeling a bit down right now. I have to say, however, that with just a few exceptions, they've been very classy today in accepting what most of them acknowledge is the defeat of their preferred format with good grace.

Given that, I think it would be wise at this point for the Blu-ray Disc Association and its member studios and manufacturers to make a peace offering of sorts to HD-DVD supporters. Warner and the rest of the BDA should make some kind of offer to HD-DVD enthusiasts that would allow them to exchange a few of their HD-DVD discs for Blu-ray versions of the same titles, or to provide some kind of additional discount on Blu-ray players to those who have purchased HD-DVD players prior to December 31st 2007, to help them migrate to Blu-ray more easily and painlessly. It would be a nice gesture. It's not like both camps aren't giving tons of free discs away already in "buy one get one free" offers. It might cost the BDA a little up front, but the goodwill it would generate among enthusiasts would be worth the expense, I think. It would be a nice way to welcome HD-DVD consumers into the Blu-ray fold, and it's a way to help put this format war foolishness - and the acrimony that it's inspired online - behind us. It's worth considering.

Our next post will be tomorrow, with a little luck, from CES. Stay tuned...

[GAMEC0CK2002]

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I still see the major hurdle being pricing. Even with a blu ray being the format, until the price of either the SA or ps3 comes down considerably most people will be content with upconverted SD movies. Heck, most people still don't even have HDTVs yet, though they are becoming more common b/c the prices have come down. And blu rays audio advantage of lossless sound and 7.1 surround sound is useless to most people w/ the costs of a HDMI receiver or HTIB to take advantage of the technology.

IMO, the big switch (Feb 09) and pricing are gonna be a bigger factors than simply having either HDDVD or Blu ray winning the format war.

[The Chef]

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You like that.... LOL!



I found that after I made my post.


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The Blu-ray camp should make a peace offering to HD-DVD fans

I actually posted this earlier today, as part of my original comments this afternoon, but we've gotten such a strong positive response to the idea, that I felt it was important to break it out into its own post this evening for emphasis.

I was thinking last night about how HD-DVD fans must be feeling right now, in the wake of Warner's announcement of their intent to go Blu-ray only later this year. We've gotten more than a few e-mails from them over the last 24 hours, as you might imagine, and they're understandably feeling a bit down right now. I have to say, however, that with just a few exceptions, they've been very classy today in accepting what most of them acknowledge is the defeat of their preferred format with good grace.

Given that, I think it would be wise at this point for the Blu-ray Disc Association and its member studios and manufacturers to make a peace offering of sorts to HD-DVD supporters. Warner and the rest of the BDA should make some kind of offer to HD-DVD enthusiasts that would allow them to exchange a few of their HD-DVD discs for Blu-ray versions of the same titles, or to provide some kind of additional discount on Blu-ray players to those who have purchased HD-DVD players prior to December 31st 2007, to help them migrate to Blu-ray more easily and painlessly. It would be a nice gesture. It's not like both camps aren't giving tons of free discs away already in "buy one get one free" offers. It might cost the BDA a little up front, but the goodwill it would generate among enthusiasts would be worth the expense, I think. It would be a nice way to welcome HD-DVD consumers into the Blu-ray fold, and it's a way to help put this format war foolishness - and the acrimony that it's inspired online - behind us. It's worth considering.

Our next post will be tomorrow, with a little luck, from CES. Stay tuned...

Im sorry but you take a chance when you buy into competing formats, if you cant handle the chance that your selected format may lose then dont buy into it in the first place. Since when would it be in BR's best interest to do this anyways? If the war is over then they have all the power and have no need to bend over to help people who supported HD-DVD from the start, its a risk you take so deal with it. Some of these HD-DVD supporters are interesting to say the least, some of them act like the world is coming to an end because it appears that BR has won, get a grip already.

[CaptainZombie]

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Im sorry but you take a chance when you buy into competing formats, if you cant handle the chance that your selected format may lose then dont buy into it in the first place. Since when would it be in BR's best interest to do this anyways? If the war is over then they have all the power and have no need to bend over to help people who supported HD-DVD from the start, its a risk you take so deal with it. Some of these HD-DVD supporters are interesting to say the least, some of them act like the world is coming to an end because it appears that BR has won, get a grip already.

This was the most interesting news if it is true that Sony and Warner would offer something like this. I don't know if I agree with this, but whatever floats their boats......and if it takes doing this to get more people into their format than that is what it takes.

I have no regrets with HD-DVD and wish to this day that Warner would have came over instead. Both Warner and Universal are classacts in this war, 1-Warner trying to get one side to win this war and being in the best interests of HDM. 2-Universal staying loyal to HD-DVD this entire time.

[bigfnjoe96]

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This was the most interesting news if it is true that Sony and Warner would offer something like this. I don't know if I agree with this, but whatever floats their boats......and if it takes doing this to get more people into their format than that is what it takes.

I have no regrets with HD-DVD and wish to this day that Warner would have came over instead. Both Warner and Universal are classacts in this war, 1-Warner trying to get one side to win this war and being in the best interests of HDM. 2-Universal staying loyal to HD-DVD this entire time.

Q. Any chance there will be a HD DVD trade in program for Blu-ray.
A. David Bishop, said not at this time.

This is from the BDA Press Conference, which BTW had no title announcements except for Sleeping Beauty from Disney coming in Oct. BTW I wouldn't trade my Warner HD DVD for Blu Ray if I ever went neutral

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/07/live-from-the-blu-ray-press-conferenece/

[GAMEC0CK2002]

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This was the most interesting news if it is true that Sony and Warner would offer something like this. I don't know if I agree with this, but whatever floats their boats......and if it takes doing this to get more people into their format than that is what it takes.

I have no regrets with HD-DVD and wish to this day that Warner would have came over instead. Both Warner and Universal are classacts in this war, 1-Warner trying to get one side to win this war and being in the best interests of HDM. 2-Universal staying loyal to HD-DVD this entire time.

Agreed. I went red b/c it was cheaper and don't regret it. But the war was well played by both sides. The PS3 effect (and missing 360 counterpunch), studio backing and the constant onslaught of blu movie deals made it near impossible to beat.

Just goes to show that Sony had both feet in, while Microsoft was a half-hearted participant.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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So, I am planning on returning my new HD-DVD player to Wal-Mart tomorrow. I am thinking of putting the money from the HD-DVD player and the handful of HD-DVDs I got from Best Buy and Circuit City towards a blu-ray player. How is this one?

[CaptainZombie]

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This is from the BDA Press Conference, which BTW had no title announcements except for Sleeping Beauty from Disney coming in Oct. BTW I wouldn't trade my Warner HD DVD for Blu Ray if I ever went neutral

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/07/l...s-conferenece/

Good to hear that they debunked that right there, I don't know how I would take Sony doing that. It would be like their saying **** you HD-DVD fans, in their minds you have dead tech, exchange it for ours which isn't even complete yet. LOL!

I only wonder if Universal ever makes it to BluRay, will they be able to reproduce the best looking PQ in hidef like they have for HD-DVD. So far, besides Warner, their my favorite studio.

Agreed. I went red b/c it was cheaper and don't regret it. But the war was well played by both sides. The PS3 effect (and missing 360 counterpunch), studio backing and the constant onslaught of blu movie deals made it near impossible to beat.

Just goes to show that Sony had both feet in, while Microsoft was a half-hearted participant.

MS had other intentions and it was buying time to build their digital download.