The Paris Hilton Thread

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What you're saying doesn't mean anything to what I said. I'm not saying that she should have been released...

I'm only commenting on the jail being full. I'm not saying anything else.

I still don't think you get it.

Jails are considered "full" at different levels. Inmates have to be released to make room for other inmates. Hilton's cell may only have been empty for a few hours before she was put in there. County lock-ups aren't long-term facilities. They have people constantly rotating in and out.

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usually it would take three DUIs to get jail time

but fyi, her charge is reckless driving and driving with a suspended license.

That isn't entirely true. A lot of states have mandatory jail time after the second DUI (albeit 10 days usually) and they also have mandatory jail time depending on the BAC at the time of the offense.

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Her charge was reduced and she was given probation. She was stopped for driving under the influence, her sentence being reduced doesn't mean that it didn't happen, it means that she got a favorable deal.

what the F does that have to do with her sentence for RECKLESS DRIVING? She is in the custody of the sherriff's department for reckless driving and driving with a suspended license. 45 days in jail for that is crazy.

even if the DUI charge would have stayed (in reality it didnt but hypothetically). That was a misdemeanor also. One DUI and driving with a suspended license should not equal 40 days in jail.

Ive never had a DUI but i know a crapload of people who have, and not one of them has ever done more than 2 days in jail.

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I still don't think you get it.

Jails are considered "full" at different levels. Inmates have to be released to make room for other inmates. Hilton's cell may only have been empty for a few hours before she was put in there. County lock-ups aren't long-term facilities. They have people constantly rotating in and out.

That makes absolutely no sense to me. Full isn't a relative term, it's an absolute. Full means the capacity of a container is absolutely fulfilled by whatever is contained by it.

Just because people cycle in and out doesn't make it full to me because there is still a free slot to put someone in.

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I have know people who did some jail time for a DUI, their first offense. She got a break. Violated her probation not once, but twice. She apparently thinks she is above every one else. She even showed up to court late. Total disrespect for the law. She got what she deserved. She will survie be back to her crazy antics in a month.


p.s. I'd hit it

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That makes absolutely no sense to me. Full isn't a relative term, it's an absolute. Full means the capacity of a container is absolutely fulfilled by whatever is contained by it.

Just because people cycle in and out doesn't make it full to me because there is still a free slot to put someone in.

do you understand the term gridlock?

do you understand how crazy the justice system in LA county is?

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I have know people who did some jail time for a DUI, their first offense. She got a break. Violated her probation not once, but twice. She apparently thinks she is above every one else. She even showed up to court late. Total disrespect for the law. She got what she deserved. She will survie be back to her crazy antics in a month.


p.s. I'd hit it

her charge is not DUI

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what the F does that have to do with her sentence for RECKLESS DRIVING? She is in the custody of the sherriff's department for reckless driving and driving with a suspended license. 45 days in jail for that is crazy.

even if the DUI charge would have stayed (in reality it didnt but hypothetically). That was a misdemeanor also. One DUI and driving with a suspended license should not equal 40 days in jail.

Ive never had a DUI but i know a crapload of people who have, and not one of them has ever done more than 2 days in jail.

Why do you keep acting like the fact that she was driving drunk has nothing to do with the terms of her probation? Her probation agreement said that she could get 45 days in jail, which she isn't even serving anyway. She's gotten favorable treatment since this began and I don't see how anyone could defend her. She got time off for good behavior before even setting foot in jail. She got snuck out of jail by the sheriff in the middle of the night without telling anyone and her "house arrest" wasn't any kind of punishment at all. Have the people that you know with DUI's violated their probation twice?

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I'm done. I'm not arguing with anyone else.

**** Paris, and screw this thread.

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That makes absolutely no sense to me. Full isn't a relative term, it's an absolute. Full means the capacity of a container is absolutely fulfilled by whatever is contained by it.

Just because people cycle in and out doesn't make it full to me because there is still a free slot to put someone in.

Wow. Think outside the box a bit.

Full can't be a relative term when referring to a jail, hotel, barracks, or anything similar.

You can't predict overflow. You can't predict the amount of crimes that or going to be committed or their resulting arrests.

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what the F does that have to do with her sentence for RECKLESS DRIVING? She is in the custody of the sherriff's department for reckless driving and driving with a suspended license. 45 days in jail for that is crazy.

even if the DUI charge would have stayed (in reality it didnt but hypothetically). That was a misdemeanor also. One DUI and driving with a suspended license should not equal 40 days in jail.

Ive never had a DUI but i know a crapload of people who have, and not one of them has ever done more than 2 days in jail.

DUI's are getting cracked down upon big time now. I see commercials on tv all the time in AZ saying if you get a DUI expect the Max. I had a friend get one (later got off because he wasn't pulled over with probable cause), but he had a judge who would have given him jail time for his first offense.

In the past you used to get probation for a DUI, but nowadays there's a major crackdown on drunk driving so judges are giving jail time more often.

That's not even going into her violating her probation (probation on a lesser charge she plea bargained to). If most people are going to jail and not getting that probation chance, I'd say it's expected for a probation violator to go to jail.

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Why do you keep acting like the fact that she was driving drunk has nothing to do with the terms of her probation? Her probation agreement said that she could get 45 days in jail, which she isn't even serving anyway. She's gotten favorable treatment since this began and I don't see how anyone could defend her. She got time off for good behavior before even setting foot in jail. She got snuck out of jail by the sheriff in the middle of the night without telling anyone and her "house arrest" wasn't any kind of punishment at all. Haved the people that you know with DUI's violated their probation twice?

i guess Paris Hilton is becoming the example for all of the rich people that have gotten off easy before. She is being made an example of and being made into a media football because of that fact.

People like you are getting joy out of seeing a privileged rich person getting more jail time than a normal person like you and me. You are proving my point that she is being made an example of.

but after all of that, she is still a person. and she is a person that has probably never even been to court before this, much less jail. They are making an example out of her although she had no prior history before all of this. They are making an example of her because of the public out cry from people like you. Its BS

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DUI's are getting cracked down upon big time now. I see commercials on tv all the time in AZ saying if you get a DUI expect the Max. I had a friend get one (later got off because he wasn't pulled over with probable cause), but he had a judge who would have given him jail time for his first offense.

In the past you used to get probation for a DUI, but nowadays there's a major crackdown on drunk driving so judges are giving jail time more often.

That's not even going into her violating her probation (probation on a lesser charge she plea bargained to). If most people are going to jail and not getting that probation chance, I'd say it's expected for a probation violator to go to jail.

the charge that the judge was supposed to sentence her for is RECKLESS DRIVING. That was her charge (class B misdeamenor)

its crazy that they are going to hold her for 40 days in LA county for that charge. If i got that charge here in Travis county (not quite as full as freakin LA county obviously), i doubt i would do more than a few days in jail at the most (but i probably wouldnt do any).

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Sure, there's the usual sentence but if the judge wants to make an example of YOU (specific deterrence), the statute usually has a max sentence and if they want to serve you with the max, they can. So what's the problem? I'd like to think she would stay out of trouble after spending time in jail.

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the charge that the judge was supposed to sentence her for is RECKLESS DRIVING. That was her charge (class B misdeamenor)

its crazy that they are going to hold her for 40 days in LA county for that charge. If i got that charge here in Travis county (not quite as full as freakin LA county obviously), i doubt i would do more than a few days in jail.

No Z....that isn't how it works.

She was sentenced previously for reckless driving. She received probration which is basically saying that if you get into trouble again you are likely to get the book thrown at you.....to include your previous offense. She subsequently got caught driving with a suspended license (another offense).

There's nothing wrong with her sentence, it's the handling of it that is completely screwed up.