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  • trobinson97
    Lie,cheat,steal,kill: Win
    • Oct 2004
    • 16366

    #46
    Re: Man vs. Wild's Bear Grylls not so wild

    Originally posted by Boltman
    Honestly KDRE, it is not. I just keep sitting here atop the hill fighting off all of the ones that live in Jones.... err Beartown.


    No TOS violations whatsoever, just good ole arguments. Over a hack.

    Is that what this is? An argument? Wow, thanks for telling me, I didn't see it that way. I guess I don't know what I thought I saw it as, but argument definitely wasn't on the list, I really wasn't giving the thread too much thought. I think you're taking the thread and yourself a little too seriously though. As it is, you've quoted me on the same thing twice and responded with the same 'bear kool aid', er, joke? Well, I'll just say statement. Regardless, no matter how many times you repeat it, it still won't make much sense in the context of the comment.

    Are parts of the show set up, or not as authentic as they seem? Maybe. Is the show entertaining? Sure. Are parts of Survivorman set or not as authentic as they seem? I don't know, maybe. Is the show entertaining? Eh, a little, not as much as Man vs. Wild though. That's just my take on it anyway. At the end of the day though, it doesn't really matter to me, if it's real or fake or whatever. If I watch it and am entertained, that's pretty much as far as it goes. I never watched any show and became overly concerned about whether it was "real" or not; just whether or not it was a good program.

    You though, with the comments you've continually made in this thread (and again, this is just they I percieve it) seem to be more fixated on Bear than those of us who enjoy the show. It seems as if Bear actually did something personal against you where you have to make sure everyone knows you don't like him, and they shouldn't watch his show because he's this or he's that. Eh, that's probably just the way I'm seeing it. I don't have a problem with what you watch or don't watch, the same with any other person. Watch what you want for the reasons you want, it's all good. You take care man. Thanks for the "argument".
    Last edited by trobinson97; 07-26-2007, 02:09 AM.
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    • Boltman
      L.A. to S.D. to HI
      • Mar 2004
      • 18283

      #47
      Re: Man vs. Wild's Bear Grylls not so wild

      Originally posted by trobinson97
      Are parts of Survivorman set or not as authentic as they seem? I don't know, maybe. Is the show entertaining? Eh, a little, not as much as Man vs. Wild though.
      Originally posted by trobinson97
      At the end of the day though, it doesn't really matter to me, if it's real or fake or whatever. If I watch it and am entertained, that's pretty much as far as it goes. I never watched any show and became overly concerned about whether it was "real" or not
      Originally posted by trobinson97
      I never watched any show and became overly concerned about whether it was "real" or not; just whether or not it was a good progr
      Originally posted by trobinson97
      Are parts of the show set up, or not as authentic as they seem? Maybe. (LOL you mean Yes)
      LMAO!! That it the premise of his show!!! That it is REALITY!! Do you not understand, he is a hack! I already said if you like fake shoddy non reality shows, then this is up your alley! Good for you!!
      Last edited by Boltman; 07-26-2007, 02:28 AM.

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      • mgoblue
        Go Wings!
        • Jul 2002
        • 25477

        #48
        Re: Man vs. Wild's Bear Grylls not so wild

        Originally posted by trobinson97
        Are parts of the show set up, or not as authentic as they seem? Maybe. Is the show entertaining? Sure. Are parts of Survivorman set or not as authentic as they seem? I don't know, maybe. Is the show entertaining? Eh, a little, not as much as Man vs. Wild though. That's just my take on it anyway. At the end of the day though, it doesn't really matter to me, if it's real or fake or whatever. If I watch it and am entertained, that's pretty much as far as it goes. I never watched any show and became overly concerned about whether it was "real" or not; just whether or not it was a good program.
        Feel free to enjoy MvW, I'm glad if you do, honestly...It's better than nothing. Les just teaches people what they "should" do in a survival situation, he doesn't try to entertain us like Bear does (with crazy climbs, doing stuff we could never do, etc). I'm not a former SAS agent, I don't relate to Bear, so I suppose that's partly why I get more from Survivorman's realistic aspect (yes, it's really just him and cameras, for some shots he has to walk back for an hour or two and get the camera).

        When we see Les as hungry, he's really hungry. That realism, the same realism we seek in gaming and other forums, we're being ripped on? People want the right colored socks in a damn game and yet it doesn't matter that Bear is faking it? I guess I'm just weird in wanting something real, which is fine, I'm used to being weird in that respect.
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        • skitch
          Fear Ameer
          • Oct 2002
          • 12349

          #49
          Re: Man vs. Wild's Bear Grylls not so wild

          I'm calling BS on Les not carrying flint with him. I've watched only a single episode of Survivorman, and I thought it was BS because he carried a stick of flint, a granola bar, and had a freaking bike.

          While it sucks to find out that Bear is a fake, I have trouble believing that Les' show would hold my interest for very long. I'm not any more of a Bear-lover than I am a Les-doubter.

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          • Boltman
            L.A. to S.D. to HI
            • Mar 2004
            • 18283

            #50
            Re: Man vs. Wild's Bear Grylls not so wild

            Originally posted by mgoblue
            Feel free to enjoy MvW, I'm glad if you do, honestly...It's better than nothing. Les just teaches people what they "should" do in a survival situation, he doesn't try to entertain us like Bear does (with crazy climbs, doing stuff we could never do, etc). I'm not a former SAS agent, I don't relate to Bear, so I suppose that's partly why I get more from Survivorman's realistic aspect (yes, it's really just him and cameras, for some shots he has to walk back for an hour or two and get the camera).

            When we see Les as hungry, he's really hungry. That realism, the same realism we seek in gaming and other forums, we're being ripped on? People want the right colored socks in a damn game and yet it doesn't matter that Bear is faking it? I guess I'm just weird in wanting something real, which is fine, I'm used to being weird in that respect.
            Good call (on both sides honestly), my call earlier.........


            Originally posted by Boltman
            Bear Grylls-More entertaining-less informative. (your case)
            Les Stroud-Less entertaining-more informative. (mine)
            God dang!! You "get it", you are no doubt, my hero! :wink:

            Seriously though, well put MGO, just sad to think the Kool aid guys refuse to see this.

            He is and always will be a hack (but at least he entertains them though right!?).

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            • 23
              yellow
              • Sep 2002
              • 66469

              #51
              Re: Man vs. Wild's Bear Grylls not so wild

              LOL, thanks for making my night fellas. You guys are truly the best!

              Good night all.

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              • Boltman
                L.A. to S.D. to HI
                • Mar 2004
                • 18283

                #52
                Re: Man vs. Wild's Bear Grylls not so wild

                Originally posted by KDRE_OS
                LOL, thanks for making my night fellas. You guys are truly the best!

                Good night all.
                It is late for me too you know, (I live in the valley) night KDRE heh.

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                • trobinson97
                  Lie,cheat,steal,kill: Win
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 16366

                  #53
                  Re: Man vs. Wild's Bear Grylls not so wild

                  Originally posted by mgoblue
                  Feel free to enjoy MvW,
                  Thanks man. That means a lot to me, honestly.

                  Originally posted by mgoblue
                  I'm not a former SAS agent, I don't relate to Bear, so I suppose that's partly why I get more from Survivorman's realistic aspect
                  I don't neccessarily relate to what either of them are doing, yet I'm entertained by MvW moreso than Survivorman.

                  Originally posted by mgoblue
                  When we see Les as hungry, he's really hungry. That realism, the same realism we seek in gaming and other forums, we're being ripped on? People want the right colored socks in a damn game and yet it doesn't matter that Bear is faking it? I guess I'm just weird in wanting something real, which is fine, I'm used to being weird in that respect.
                  Who's ripping on you dude? I'd be upset if someone had a problem with me watching something for my own reasons too. I don't see anyone ripping you but still, that's not cool, so I guess we are in agreement.


                  Originally posted by Boltman
                  LMAO!! That it the premise of his show!!! That it is REALITY!! Do you not understand, he is a hack! I already said if you like fake shoddy non reality shows, then this is up your alley! Good for you!!
                  Wow, still going eh? Ok, In the short little history of reality television, there have been countless statements that have come out about how this show was scripted, or that event was directed or whatever. It is what it is. I don't watch wrestling thinking the match winners aren't scripted before hand. I don't watch American Idol worrying about whether or not there is something going on behind the scenes that is giving one contestant an advantage over another, or whether or not they really got the number of phone calls Ryan Seacrest said they did. Hmmm, something doesn't sit well with Tamyra Grey being voted off when she did, that was probably a set up. Wow, is Jessica Simpson really that dumb, or was there some encouragement on some off camera producer's part? Ehhhh I don't really care. At the end of the show, all I am worried about was whether or not I was entertained and would I watch again. However, thank you, thank you Boltman, for giving me your approval on what I should watch and why I watch it. Of all the people that have insignificantly impacted my life, your's was sizeable. /sarcasm <---just a tiny note there.

                  Seriously though, lol@ you riding the nuts of whoever semi-agrees with you. I did find that funny. "kool aid guys", ehhh not so much.
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                  • snepp
                    We'll waste him too.
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 10007

                    #54
                    Re: Man vs. Wild's Bear Grylls not so wild

                    Originally posted by Kredit
                    I've watched only a single episode of Survivorman, and I thought it was BS because he carried a stick of flint, a granola bar, and had a freaking bike.
                    Foot in mouth disease claims another victim.


                    Some of the discussions out there are amusing.

                    TV Talk - Bear Grylls (Man vs Wild) is a fraud - http://entertainment.timesonline.co....cle2116195.ece


                    Lets calm down, these are allegations, and have not been proven yet. Lets wait till the facts come out.
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                    • skitch
                      Fear Ameer
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 12349

                      #55
                      Re: Man vs. Wild's Bear Grylls not so wild

                      Dude, what?

                      I was just saying, everybody in here claims how much "realer" and everything Les is, and how he doesn't carry flint, but in 100% of the episodes I've watched (despite the very small sample size), he has.

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                      • MizzouBravesFan
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 2489

                        #56
                        Re: Man vs. Wild's Bear Grylls not so wild

                        Originally posted by Boltman
                        Comedic Gold!

                        Yea they are so much alike no doubt. Seeing as their act is so similar and all.
                        Ummm can you read???

                        Where in my post did I say they are alike??? Oh wait, I didn't and that wasn't the point I was trying to make.

                        Jesus.

                        For your information, I enjoy both shows...and to be quite honest, I don't believe either is 100% legit in everything shown. That's just my opinion.
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                        • Alliball
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 2368

                          #57
                          Re: Man vs. Wild's Bear Grylls not so wild

                          Originally posted by Boltman
                          Well great, at least you admit you just watch it for entertainment. Not a reality show about a person truly surviving in the wild. Kinda like a good ole Disney story.

                          Fake as all hell, but still good ole entertainment! :wink:
                          News flash, there is nothing real about reality shows. Kind of ironic don't you think?

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                          • MC Fatigue
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 4150

                            #58
                            Re: Man vs. Wild's Bear Grylls not so wild

                            I only read the first post, but I've read most of this same stuff on other boards.

                            I'd like to point out something: the article is purely claims, claims, claims.

                            Give me some PROOF and then maybe I'll take it to mean more. I'm surprised how many people will turn their back on someone based purely on claims that have no backup so far.

                            p.s. Survivorman is a boring prat.

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                            • Boltman
                              L.A. to S.D. to HI
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 18283

                              #59
                              Re: Man vs. Wild's Bear Grylls not so wild

                              Too lazy right now to respond to all the Bear lovers. I did read those eloquent responses.

                              Great!! Keep watching the entertaining hack that orders room service in his comfy hotel.

                              Watch him all you can, damn near every chance you can get.

                              I am done here, carry on.

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                              • mgoblue
                                Go Wings!
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 25477

                                #60
                                Re: Man vs. Wild's Bear Grylls not so wild

                                Originally posted by Kredit
                                Dude, what?

                                I was just saying, everybody in here claims how much "realer" and everything Les is, and how he doesn't carry flint, but in 100% of the episodes I've watched (despite the very small sample size), he has.
                                He usually explains that at the beginning. I've seen him carry some new firestarting thing to test it in a real trial, but most of the time he struggles for a while using wood to make a fire...

                                I'm glad Bear works for a lot of you guys, I just can't stand him after a while personally. I do see how Survivorman might be boring to some people, though...Definitely slower paced and not as much action as Bear gives you. It's kinda like Bear is what everyone thinks being lost on your own is like, and Les is what it actually is like (not as exciting etc)
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