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Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**
now, ben is trying to get rid of the survivors, maybe he needed Michael to get the survivors rescued. After they are rescued he has something up his sleeve to protect the island again.I can do all things in Christ who strengthens me!
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Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**
Like others I think Michael is the man on the boat... another random character introduction won't do here, so it has to be someone we've forgotten about--Michael. And I kind of feel like Walt will be the 4th member of the six so far... I wonder if there was some sort of deal to help Ben in exhange for getting Walt back home??Comment
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Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**
I'll bet Sun and Jin are two of the Oceanic 6.Comment
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Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**
Michael's name was actually in the credits at the start of the show (Harold Paranioux or whatever) and I was expecting to see him in the episode. I was actually PO'd because I thought that gave away the surprise of him coming back (in case you don't follow the off-set news that Harold was back on the show) kinda like they did with Walt in the S3 finale."You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier
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Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**
I don't know why you're saying that ben was only a 2 or 3 episode character? Is that common knowledge? The leader of the Others was only supposed to be in 3 episodes, that doesn't make sense to me...
Didn't Desmonds vision of Charlie saving them include seeing Claire and Aaron getting into a helicopter? Desmond isn't usually wrong, right?Last edited by ndeezlo; 02-08-2008, 04:42 PM.Comment
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Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**
Ok.
Not sure why I keep seeing people say that Oceanic Flight 815 was setup to crash. There has been zero mention of that on the show.
Here's what I've gathered from the information presented to us.
The setup was a fake crash. Whoever knows that the Losties are alive wants to make sure no one looks for them. Probably because if someone does they'll find the Island.
The reveal of Frank knowing that couldn't be the Pilot of Flight 815 was to show us that someone figured it out. Someone in the real world knows that the plane found on the bottom of the sea was not Oceanic Flight 815. So he now asks himself...why are they covering up the crash with a fake crash?
Frank realizes something is up. But that's his story. We don't know how it connects to Adaddon, Naomi, and the other freighter people.
And it's important to note that Naomi was surprised to hear that there were survivors on Flight 815. So if Michael is on the boat why is Naomi out of the loop?
Also, Miles did act sarcastic but he probably has other things to be surprised over. And if he was with Frank most of the time then once they heard the names Jack and Kate over the radio phone they knew that there were survivors (remember, Frank memorized the manifest) For a guy that speaks to dead people on the regular, I doubt Miles would be much surprised over dead people being alive.
I don't think Michael returns in the present. I'm thinking he's in a flash-forward because Walt is older now and if you have Michael you have to have Walt. Can't have them together if Walt is much older than what three months should do to a kid. UNLESS, there really is something up with aging on the Island. Perhaps we should ask Alpert about that.
Gotta love the writers playing with us.
Ben - "I can give you answers."
Locke - "What is the black smoke?"
Audience - "YES! Finally!"
And....no."It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
"You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob NeyerComment
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"It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
"You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob NeyerComment
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Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**
Obviously.
I don't know how much control Michael is going to have on the ship, it's not like those guys are just going to start listening to this dude they found in the ocean. Ben obviously knows everything (alot) about the people on the ship so the Looking Glass couldn't have been blocking all transmissions. Possibly those chicks were turning the blocker off and on for Ben when he asked.Comment
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"It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
"You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob NeyerComment
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Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**
The larger issue is that Oceanic (in all likely hood) has no idea of the Island so they wouldn't set up the fake crash. So who did? Does Ben or anyone else really have THAT much power that they can conjure up the exact model of Oceanic plane that was 815 and place it on the bottom of the ocean?"You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier
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Last edited by moose1619; 02-10-2008, 10:37 PM.I can do all things in Christ who strengthens me!
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Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**
This happens a lot with shows. A new character surfaces and takes over. Urkel did it in Family Matters. Ben's character is too important to kill off now. You kill Ben, you kill any chance of knowing the vast secrets of the island. Locke won't let Ben die without knowing them all first. But once Locke has all the answers, Ben is toast, and Locke's taking over. Whoa, that just gave me a thought, while I still think John Locke is whose funeral Jack went to, he's not the one in the casket. I need to ponder this further.Comment
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