**Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)

**fistofrage** · 02-22-2008, 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by tanis38

If I remember correcty Jack said that the plane crashed in the water, 8 made it ashore, but that 2 eventually died. Which just opens up a can of worms!! Who were those 8?!?!?! We know that Jack, Kate, Hurley and Sayid are four of them.

Well Billionaire Ben apparantly has enough money to make a fake crash happen, but wasn't that plane wreckage found pretty far away from where the island was? How is that going to add up.

**Chief Illinimac** · 02-22-2008, 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by fistofrage

Well Billionaire Ben apparantly has enough money to make a fake crash happen, but wasn't that plane wreckage found pretty far away from where the island was? How is that going to add up.

I don't think Ben arranged the fake crash. I think the list he gave Sayid is people who have something to do with it.

**ehh** · 02-22-2008, 12:00 PM

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I was also a little pissed that the Ben/Miles situation didn't see more action late in the episode. As a few other people said, I really don't care about Kate or her involvement in the show in any matter. The more this show goes on the more useless she becomes, IMO.

**boomhauertjs** · 02-22-2008, 12:03 PM

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Does Aaron count as one of the Oceanic Six?

**tanis38** · 02-22-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by ChiefIllinimac

I don't think Ben arranged the fake crash. I think the list he gave Sayid is people who have something to do with it.

That is what I am thinking too. I just want to know how they are going to connect that fake crash with the Oceanic 6. The stories won't add up.

**tanis38** · 02-22-2008, 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by boomhauertjs

Does Aaron count as one of the Oceanic Six?

It is not 100% clear at this time. It might be because I am pretty sure the previews for this past episode said that another Oceanic 6 would be revealed, and Aaron is the only one who fits that bill (nobody else was revealed in the flash forwards).

But things get complicated by the fact that Kate is passing him off as her baby, so he would have had to have been conceived on the island (for the lie) since she was not pegnant before.

**fistofrage** · 02-22-2008, 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by ehh

I was also a little pissed that the Ben/Miles situation didn't see more action late in the episode. As a few other people said, I really don't care about Kate or her involvement in the show in any matter. The more this show goes on the more useless she becomes, IMO.

I agree, and the more I look at her, she looks like Bugs Bunny in makeup. That episode last night was 90% fluff. Her love trist with Jack is getting tired. And Locke having Ben chained up is just the same rinse and repeat stuff we keep seeing.

Yeah, why is Miles asking for $3.2M, not 3, not 5? And he's in a pretty precarious position to only be concerned about money. Why is he so confident that he'll even get to make contact to his superiors and get rescued? And then are the people he works for someone you can easily screw over and get away with it? Asking for money from Ben in a week seemed like an awfully foolish request.

**tanis38** · 02-22-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by fistofrage

Yeah, why is Miles asking for $3.2M, not 3, not 5? And he's in a pretty precarious position to only be concerned about money. Why is he so confident that he'll even get to make contact to his superiors and get rescued? And then are the people he works for someone you can easily screw over and get away with it? Asking for money from Ben in a week seemed like an awfully foolish request.

I have a theory that Miles could be Ben's guy on the boat. That entire conversation was in code (The fact that Miles was asking for such an odd amount of money seems weird). The time-frame given could be when some big event is going to be happening. I don't know.

I think everyone is Ben's guy on the boat. I think it could also be Michael of Sayid. lol.

**Pared** · 02-22-2008, 12:15 PM

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What was up with the card game? When the guy guessed 2 out of 3....?

**ehh** · 02-22-2008, 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by tanis38

I have a theory that Mile's could be Ben's guy on the boat.

That is actually a heckuva theory, haven't heard that one.

Also, I don't think Aaron would be one of the Oceanic 6, I think that group only includes passengers from the flight, since Aaron wasn't on the flight and was born on the Island I don't think he's one of the six.

**Pared** · 02-22-2008, 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by ehh

Also, I don't think Aaron would be one of the Oceanic 6, I think that group only includes passengers from the flight, since Aaron wasn't on the flight and was born on the Island I don't think he's one of the six.

This is my issue with it. The previews mentioned we would be revealed another member of the O6, though.

If it's not him, then who is it?

**bomberooski** · 02-22-2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by tanis38

That is what I am thinking too. I just want to know how they are going to connect that fake crash with the Oceanic 6. The stories won't add up.

Jack did say they crashed in the ocean and only 8 where able to swim to shore. But that thing may have been in the middle of nowhere and impossible to swim from.

**bomberooski** · 02-22-2008, 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by aholbert32

It hasnt been confirmed that Sun was impregnated on the Island. It could be the guy she was cheating with baby.

No, it was confirmed that it's Jin's baby when Sun was checked by Juliet.

And I too am wondering about the guy who guessed 2 out of 3 cards. He's a whack job but he's the most intriguing new guy to me.

**fistofrage** · 02-22-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by bomberooski

No, it was confirmed that it's Jin's baby when Sun was checked by Juliet.

And I too am wondering about the guy who guessed 2 out of 3 cards. He's a whack job but he's the most intriguing new guy to me.

I agree that Sun's baby is Jin's. But Juliet says everything with a stupid smirk on her face so I thought she was lying about verything she was saying at first. I have come to the conclusion that this isn't a smirk, thats her natural stupid look, and that she is telling the truth about Sun's baby.

For whatever reason that Physicist(Daniel) short term memory is affected. Why just him though? His longer term memory like what line to call the ship on etc, doesn't seem to be affected. Also did he and the red haired chick know there was something going on with the helicoptor?

If they are all there to find Ben, they found him. Doesn't it seem like they may need more firepower to complete their mission? Its not as simple as putting a hit on Ben or that could have been pulled off by now. I don't think they were counting on the Losties to be strapped with AK's.

I do like the theory about Miles being Ben's guy on the boat. Talking about money was so inappropriate at that time, that I am sure that they were speaking in codes. Ben was basically saying whatever he had planned couldn't be completed in 2 days, he would need a week.

**tanis38** · 02-22-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by fistofrage

I agree that Sun's baby is Jin's. But Juliet says everything with a stupid smirk on her face so I thought she was lying about verything she was saying at first. I have come to the conclusion that this isn't a smirk, thats her natural stupid look, and that she is telling the truth about Sun's baby.

LOL! I can't STAND Juliet's stupid face. Everytime I see it I groan. I hope she gets killed soon or something. I actually liked her at first, but that damn smirk is now so aggravating!

**Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)

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