****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

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  • rubisco43
    All Star
    • Feb 2003
    • 4372

    #1051
    Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

    Originally posted by YankeePride
    I have more to say about this but I haven't finished thinking the whole thing out. The one thing I'm almost certain of involves Jin and Sun.

    Paik Heavy Industries has a history working with the Hanso Foundation and the Widmore Corporation.

    When all things boil over and Jack speaks to Hurley about their need to go back to the Island (because it's gotta be Jack that pushes this issue) he'll use Hurley's friendship with Sun to convince her of the same.

    And I'm pretty certain that Sun, knowing that Jin is still on the Island, will find out something that will get her to push her father to help them in some way.

    It'll take money to find the Island and Sun has connections to money and the Island. She's the only of the Oceanic 6 - outside of Hurley (and he probably does tap into his account) - that can get the money to find the Island. And Jin is the reason why she'll push for it. She'll want him home.
    Why not contact Widmore? He's already found it once.
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    • rubisco43
      All Star
      • Feb 2003
      • 4372

      #1052
      Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

      Originally posted by stephenyoungchoi
      There must be a reason she was calling for Jin at the hospital and saying how she wished he was with her and could see their baby..... possibly he's still on the island and she wishes they were together.....
      That entire argument could be used to say Jin is dead.
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      • stephenyoungchoi
        Pro
        • Sep 2004
        • 544

        #1053
        Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

        Originally posted by rubisco43
        That entire argument could be used to say Jin is dead.
        He very well could be.... I just meant it as it's not clear cut he's dead just because he has a grave.....

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        • fistofrage
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2002
          • 13682

          #1054
          Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

          Originally posted by stephenyoungchoi
          He very well could be.... I just meant it as it's not clear cut he's dead just because he has a grave.....
          Jin's not dead. Who knows maybe the Oceanic 6 made up their story too soon, thought the others were whiped out but Jin made it through. Now if they go back on their story, evrything unravels. Don't know what the ramifications will be, but I have a feeling Jin is alive and working for Widmore to undermine Ben. A dramatic face-off between Jin and Sayid could ensue.
          Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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          • moose1619
            Pro
            • Feb 2003
            • 884

            #1055
            Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

            I still can't wait to see how they tie in the Ben and Sayid thing. I mean if Ben helped finance the Fake crash, how and why is Sayid going about killing the big executives. I am also curious to see when Ben planned the staging of the crash. Was it when he actually saw the plane go down, or when he found out who was on board? i need to start rewatching previous seasons and really do some clue hunting.
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            • fistofrage
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2002
              • 13682

              #1056
              Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

              Originally posted by moose1619
              I still can't wait to see how they tie in the Ben and Sayid thing. I mean if Ben helped finance the Fake crash, how and why is Sayid going about killing the big executives. I am also curious to see when Ben planned the staging of the crash. Was it when he actually saw the plane go down, or when he found out who was on board? i need to start rewatching previous seasons and really do some clue hunting.
              Sayid could get some info from Michael that would sway his way of thinking. The other thing I think is that with this whole time travel thing, they have said that you have to get back to a certain point at a certain time or this in the future will get altered. Somehow Ben is their doorway to get them to where they need to be.

              I really don't like Ben's character its played out, he was only supposed to be there for a few episodes but now he's a major component of the story. Its rinse and repeat with his character....He does something heinous, they knock the crap out of him, he has a secret, they wonder what it could be, they release him to find out.......Ben does something heinous, they knock the crap out of him, he has a secret, they wonder what it could be, they release him to find out.......

              How a guy who has apparantly unlimited sources of cash, well at least enough to stage an entire wreckage without the world knowing it was staged and enough hush money to keep it quiet but yet gets overthrown by a bunch of unarmed injured castaways is beyond me. I have a feeling there will be alot of WTF when the series ends and you look back at the big picture.
              Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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              • moose1619
                Pro
                • Feb 2003
                • 884

                #1057
                Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                Originally posted by fistofrage
                Sayid could get some info from Michael that would sway his way of thinking. The other thing I think is that with this whole time travel thing, they have said that you have to get back to a certain point at a certain time or this in the future will get altered. Somehow Ben is their doorway to get them to where they need to be.

                I really don't like Ben's character its played out, he was only supposed to be there for a few episodes but now he's a major component of the story. Its rinse and repeat with his character....He does something heinous, they knock the crap out of him, he has a secret, they wonder what it could be, they release him to find out.......Ben does something heinous, they knock the crap out of him, he has a secret, they wonder what it could be, they release him to find out.......

                How a guy who has apparantly unlimited sources of cash, well at least enough to stage an entire wreckage without the world knowing it was staged and enough hush money to keep it quiet but yet gets overthrown by a bunch of unarmed injured castaways is beyond me. I have a feeling there will be alot of WTF when the series ends and you look back at the big picture.
                I agree, Ben is lame and like a repeat wash cycle. My fav character is still Jack and will always be. I still enjoy the storyline of the original characters, Jack, Kate, sAyid, Hurley, Sawyer, Locke, Jin and Sun. The others can go, Let's move on with Ben and hurry up and see what these new 4 have to offer.
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                • CMH
                  Making you famous
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 26203

                  #1058
                  Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                  Never say much during the show but had to say this...

                  Alex is so much hotter now.
                  "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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                  • ASB37
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 2624

                    #1059
                    Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                    Originally posted by YankeePride
                    Never say much during the show but had to say this...

                    Alex is so much hotter now.
                    Agreed....i really wanna see how they take this angle with mike ive been looking forward to this episode.
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                    • CMH
                      Making you famous
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 26203

                      #1060
                      Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                      Guess Sayid is going to realize his mistake and much like Ben did with Michael, he'll work for Ben to make up for it.
                      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                      "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                      • p2xgamers
                        All Star
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 4735

                        #1061
                        Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                        Originally posted by YankeePride
                        Guess Sayid is going to realize his mistake and much like Ben did with Michael, he'll work for Ben to make up for it.
                        Yeah I couldn't believe he did that, once Sayid asked to confirm he was working with Ben, I had a feeling he was going to do something stupid.

                        Sucks LOST won't be on for a month.
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                        • HealyMonster
                          Titans Era has begun.
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 5992

                          #1062
                          Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                          Originally posted by p2xgamers
                          Yeah I couldn't believe he did that, once Sayid asked to confirm he was working with Ben, I had a feeling he was going to do something stupid.

                          Sucks LOST won't be on for a month.

                          what do you mean? lost wont be on for a month? no episode next week? wtf?

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                          • p2xgamers
                            All Star
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 4735

                            #1063
                            Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                            Originally posted by Renegade44
                            what do you mean? lost wont be on for a month? no episode next week? wtf?
                            Yeah it said the next episode will be Thursday April 24th at it's new time, 10 PM EST.
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                            • ASB37
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 2624

                              #1064
                              Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                              Originally posted by p2xgamers
                              Yeah it said the next episode will be Thursday April 24th at it's new time, 10 PM EST.
                              Yeah this kinda surprised me too...does anyone know if this was the plan all along or is this a result of the writers strike?
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                              • aholbert32
                                (aka Alberto)
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 33106

                                #1065
                                Re: ****Official LOST Season 4 Discussion (Contains Spoilers)**

                                Originally posted by ASB37
                                Yeah this kinda surprised me too...does anyone know if this was the plan all along or is this a result of the writers strike?

                                Writers strike.

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