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  • jfsolo
    Live Action, please?
    • May 2003
    • 12965

    #556
    Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM) Season 2 (SPOILER WARNINGS WHILE LIVE/WEST COAST)

    As mentioned by someone on another board, why didn't Peter just grab Adam's arm and phase them though the vault door? instead of taking all that time and energy to break it?

    It was still a great episode, but creating dramatic scenes shouldn't always arise from a total disregard for logical solutions.
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    • aukevin
      War Eagle, Go Braves!
      • Dec 2002
      • 14700

      #557
      Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM) Season 2 (SPOILER WARNINGS WHILE LIVE/WEST COAST)

      Originally posted by Longhorn
      Actually, HRG gives Sylar a run for his money for best-acted character on the show.
      HRG is definitely my favorite character.

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      • rudyjuly2
        Cade Cunningham
        • Aug 2002
        • 14815

        #558
        Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM) Season 2 (SPOILER WARNINGS WHILE LIVE/WEST COAST)

        Originally posted by jfsolo
        As mentioned by someone on another board, why didn't Peter just grab Adam's arm and phase them though the vault door? instead of taking all that time and energy to break it?

        It was still a great episode, but creating dramatic scenes shouldn't always arise from a total disregard for logical solutions.
        Just like you can ask why Peter didn't read Adam's mind in the first place to see what his true intentions were. Oh well. Still love the show besides these quirks.

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        • CMH
          Making you famous
          • Oct 2002
          • 26203

          #559
          Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM) Season 2 (SPOILER WARNINGS WHILE LIVE/WEST COAST)

          Originally posted by Coug00
          I disagree. Even though the original context of the show is that the brain evolved and gave people these powers, in this case the blood is the healer, not the brain (see Nathan & HRG). Even with a bullet or stump in the brain, their blood should bring them back to life, but essentially leave them vegetables if something is interfering with the brain.
          What do you have to support this theory?

          So far Claire died when she had a tree stuck in her brain. It was said that Adam would die if someone shot him straight in the head.

          Nothing supports that only blood will bring them back.
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          • ADA885
            Banned
            • Jun 2005
            • 1770

            #560
            Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM) Season 2 (SPOILER WARNINGS WHILE LIVE/WEST COAST)

            Anyone else happy that Ali Larter's character is hopefully dead now? That chick can't act worth a damn!

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            • shugknight
              MVP
              • Oct 2004
              • 4585

              #561
              Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM) Season 2 (SPOILER WARNINGS WHILE LIVE/WEST COAST)

              Originally posted by jfsolo
              As mentioned by someone on another board, why didn't Peter just grab Adam's arm and phase them though the vault door? instead of taking all that time and energy to break it?

              It was still a great episode, but creating dramatic scenes shouldn't always arise from a total disregard for logical solutions.
              I don't think he knows about all his powers yet. He never knew he could read people's minds till Parkman tried to tell him what to do. Then he countered.

              Coug00 - Mama Patrelli has already confirmed that a bullet straight through the brain will kill them. INCLUDING PETER.

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              • trobinson97
                Lie,cheat,steal,kill: Win
                • Oct 2004
                • 16366

                #562
                Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM) Season 2 (SPOILER WARNINGS WHILE LIVE/WEST COAST)

                Originally posted by shugknight
                I don't think he knows about all his powers yet. He never knew he could read people's minds till Parkman tried to tell him what to do. Then he countered.

                Coug00 - Mama Patrelli has already confirmed that a bullet straight through the brain will kill them. INCLUDING PETER.
                He knows about that power though, that's how he and Adam escaped the company's holding facility.
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                • mgoblue
                  Go Wings!
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 25477

                  #563
                  Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM) Season 2 (SPOILER WARNINGS WHILE LIVE/WEST COAST)

                  Originally posted by trobinson97
                  He knows about that power though, that's how he and Adam escaped the company's holding facility.
                  Eh, I have no problem believing that sometimes people don't think perfectly clearly and do things a harder way than necessary. I'll do it with my job sometimes then halfway through slap my head when I realize the easy way. Plus I think they were under a bit more stress than I am lol.

                  Then again my mom would always tell me "Son, it's only a tv show" a lot when I was younger...we have to suspend reality and realize it's not perfect. I think I drove my parents nuts sometimes questioning obvious mistakes lol
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                  • shugknight
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 4585

                    #564
                    Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM) Season 2 (SPOILER WARNINGS WHILE LIVE/WEST COAST)

                    Originally posted by trobinson97
                    He knows about that power though, that's how he and Adam escaped the company's holding facility.
                    Thats true.. lol I completely forgot about that.

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                    • TheLetterZ
                      All Star
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 6752

                      #565
                      Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM) Season 2 (SPOILER WARNINGS WHILE LIVE/WEST COAST)

                      Well Adam intended to release the virus, right? Peter would've wanted to destroy it immediately, so in light of a possible confrontation between them when Adam's intentions are realized, it would've been prudent of Adam to assure that he isn't dependent on Peter for leaving that room.

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                      • Coug00
                        LOB
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 3476

                        #566
                        Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM) Season 2 (SPOILER WARNINGS WHILE LIVE/WEST COAST)

                        Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
                        What do you have to support this theory?

                        So far Claire died when she had a tree stuck in her brain. It was said that Adam would die if someone shot him straight in the head.

                        Nothing supports that only blood will bring them back.
                        Adam and Claire's blood has healed multiple people. Obviously their brain didn't do the healing of HRG and Nathan. Their brain triggered their powers to develop advanced regeneration, but the blood is the healer...that we have proof of.

                        I don't understand how the writers can say an object through the head will kill Adam, Peter, or Claire when it isn't their brain doing the healing. To me it seems like a poorly written way to make them mortal.
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                        • Beantown
                          #DoYourJob
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 31523

                          #567
                          Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM) Season 2 (SPOILER WARNINGS WHILE LIVE/WEST COAST)

                          Originally posted by Coug00
                          Adam and Claire's blood has healed multiple people. Obviously their brain didn't do the healing of HRG and Nathan. Their brain triggered their powers to develop advanced regeneration, but the blood is the healer...that we have proof of.

                          I don't understand how the writers can say an object through the head will kill Adam, Peter, or Claire when it isn't their brain doing the healing. To me it seems like a poorly written way to make them mortal.
                          Then how do you explain Claire "dying" when the branch was stuck in her head? If their head gets chopped off, if they get shot in the head, etc...they die. I, honestly, don't see how that is hard to grasp.

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                          • Coug00
                            LOB
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 3476

                            #568
                            Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM) Season 2 (SPOILER WARNINGS WHILE LIVE/WEST COAST)

                            Originally posted by Longhorn
                            Then how do you explain Claire "dying" when the branch was stuck in her head? If their head gets chopped off, if they get shot in the head, etc...they die. I, honestly, don't see how that is hard to grasp.
                            I understand that she died from a stump in the head and I'm saying its shoddy writing.

                            Her blood would heal everything except the part where the bullet or stump existed. She may be a vegetable, but I don't know why she would die.

                            And we know that when Maya got shot in the chest her healing pushed the bullet out of her body. Shouldn't that mean if Adam is shot in the brain that the healing would (or at least try to) push the bullet out of the brain?
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                            • mgoblue
                              Go Wings!
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 25477

                              #569
                              Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM) Season 2 (SPOILER WARNINGS WHILE LIVE/WEST COAST)

                              I think the brain is way more complex than the rest of the body...even look at us, we can make artificial hearts, etc, but are nowhere near understanding the brain. Right now the brain cannot really re-grow at all, so maybe even with super healing blood you can't re-grow brain?
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                              • CMH
                                Making you famous
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 26203

                                #570
                                Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM) Season 2 (SPOILER WARNINGS WHILE LIVE/WEST COAST)

                                Originally posted by Coug00
                                I understand that she died from a stump in the head and I'm saying its shoddy writing.

                                Her blood would heal everything except the part where the bullet or stump existed. She may be a vegetable, but I don't know why she would die.

                                And we know that when Maya got shot in the chest her healing pushed the bullet out of her body. Shouldn't that mean if Adam is shot in the brain that the healing would (or at least try to) push the bullet out of the brain?
                                It's been assumed that the brain controls their abilities. That's where they get what they do. It's how they understand to do what they do. That's why Sylar goes for their brain to understand their powers.

                                If Maya was shot in the head the bullet couldn't just pop out. The brain wouldn't be functioning to perform this task. Since it was in her chest, her brain could perform that action.

                                And Claire wouldn't just be a vegetable because her brain would be dead. You can't function if your brain isn't doing a thing.
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