Will This Television Season Be Cancelled?

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1. The ending will be the "true ending". The script is written. At this point in time (the last episode of the series), he wasn't going to pull out some incredible, never seen before technique for shooting the show.

2. He's throwing a temper tantrum. FX didn't do anything to stop him. The cast didn't do anything to stop him. Fox didn't do anything to stop him. He stopped himself.

He's the attention whore at a party who just broke up with his/her boyfriend/girlfriend and is mad that everyone isn't bowing down to his/her wants. He/she *****es, yells at everyone, and then leaves, thinking that everyone will stop what they're doing. But the party continues, and he/she just isn't there.

ok..

except it's just a creator of a show honoring a writer's strike. Plenty other people are doing it without getting their show hijacked.

[Cebby]

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ok..

except it's just a creator of a show honoring a writer's strike. Plenty other people are doing it without getting their show hijacked.

Who's hijacking the show? The show has been written, so the writers have no bargaining room with regard to The Shield. If he wanted to direct/produce the final episode, he could choose to do so. Instead, he chose not to. But it probably isn't that hard to hire someone to direct something with a written script and the cast that The Shield has.

[MassNole]

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Seriously with The Shield, does anyone think Michael Chiklis would allow the finale to be anything but what the creator envisioned?

[Cebby]

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Seriously with The Shield, does anyone think Michael Chiklis would allow the finale to be anything but what the creator envisioned?

Exactly. The new producer isn't going to come in and make the episode filmed in space where Shane and Vic get married and the Armenians and 1-9ers start selling flowers.

I didn't even realize that Ryan isn't the director either. At this point, Ryan's usefulness is pretty much, well, the series is done. He's just not needed at this point.

[CMH]

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A little tidbit for those that don't support the writers in this strike.

Dec. 4-The summer blockbuster Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End is released on DVD. If it does as well as Dead Man's Chest (which had almost $5 million in sales its first day on the shelves), long-time Pirates scribes Ted Elliot and Terry Rossio can expect a little less than $6,700 in writing residuals under the current system.

In case you haven't done the math that means Elliot and Rossio will make 0.134% of the revenue collected from DVD sales.

How is that fair?

[Rainey]

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A little tidbit for those that don't support the writers in this strike.

Dec. 4-The summer blockbuster Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End is released on DVD. If it does as well as Dead Man's Chest (which had almost $5 million in sales its first day on the shelves), long-time Pirates scribes Ted Elliot and Terry Rossio can expect a little less than $6,700 in writing residuals under the current system.

In case you haven't done the math that means Elliot and Rossio will make 0.134% of the revenue collected from DVD sales.

How is that fair?

It's not fair.

However, I don't think the script for that actual movie is what makes the movie great. So, in that situation they would actually be piggy backing on what actually drove such high sales for the movie/DVD.

[CMH]

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It's not fair.

However, I don't think the script for that actual movie is what makes the movie great. So, in that situation they would actually be piggy backing on what actually drove such high sales for the movie/DVD.

I guess that's where we'll just have to agree to disagree before we get into a tiny argument over this.

To me, without a story there is no movie and the story is what drives DVD sales. No one is going to buy something they don't want to watch.

No matter how many special effects you see in a movie or how glamorous the stars may be, if the story doesn't hold a viewer that viewer is going to get bored rather quickly.

But that's my opinion. I'm sure you'll have your own and I'll let you voice your own but I won't go any farther because we just won't agree on it.

[Rainey]

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I guess that's where we'll just have to agree to disagree before we get into a tiny argument over this.

To me, without a story there is no movie and the story is what drives DVD sales. No one is going to buy something they don't want to watch.

No matter how many special effects you see in a movie or how glamorous the stars may be, if the story doesn't hold a viewer that viewer is going to get bored rather quickly.

But that's my opinion. I'm sure you'll have your own and I'll let you voice your own but I won't go any farther because we just won't agree on it.

I can agree to disagree. However, if we listed a top 10 poll for everyone who saw the movie why they think it was great... you think maybe around 5 to 10% would say how great the script was?

[SPTO]

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I can agree to disagree. However, if we listed a top 10 poll for everyone who saw the movie why they think it was great... you think maybe around 5 to 10% would say how great the script was?

Well to be fair, the script has to have some merit or then any boob off the street could just hand in a script for the movie

There's been tons of sequels to very good movies with such horrific scripts that it killed the franchise (Original Batman movies i'm looking at you)

[Rainey]

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Well to be fair, the script has to have some merit or then any boob off the street could just hand in a script for the movie

There's been tons of sequels to very good movies with such horrific scripts that it killed the franchise (Original Batman movies i'm looking at you)

Oh I totally agree. You can tell when a script is just horrible and it makes the entire movie look bad. I'm just saying in that case of the third Pirates of the Caribbean movie the script is not terrific, but I still love the movie. I easily give them more credit for making it success with their scripting of the first one over the third.

[SportsTop]

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It's not fair.

However, I don't think the script for that actual movie is what makes the movie great. So, in that situation they would actually be piggy backing on what actually drove such high sales for the movie/DVD.

I suppose the question I would pose to you would be: What percentage do you think is fair? It's obviously not 0.134%. Just because you think they are "piggy-backing" off of what actually drove the high sales doesn't mean the writing is that far behind.

[Rainey]

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I suppose the question I would pose to you would be: What percentage do you think is fair? It's obviously not 0.134%. Just because you think they are "piggy-backing" off of what actually drove the high sales doesn't mean the writing is that far behind.

Well, you can't do it a movie by movie basis. I wish you could, but that would probably cause even more writers discontent. We can't have top-shelf writers refusing to work on certain movies because they feel jilted. It would only hurt the consumer.

I do not have a flat rate that I think is fair. I simply do not have enough inside information on how movies are made. It should be higher than 0.134%. That's all I know.

[SportsTop]

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Well, you can't do it a movie by movie basis. I wish you could, but that would probably cause even more writers discontent. We can't have top-shelf writers refusing to work on certain movies because they feel jilted. It would only hurt the consumer.

I do not have a flat rate that I think is fair. I simply do not have enough inside information on how movies are made. It should be higher than 0.134%. That's all I know.

Why couldn't you have a series of escalator clauses then? If DVD sales makes "X" amount of money then the writers get "X" percent?

[SPTO]

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Why couldn't you have a series of escalator clauses then? If DVD sales makes "X" amount of money then the writers get "X" percent?

That makes too much sense

In my world a fair flat rate would be 5% and for major blockbusters there should be an escalator clause like you've suggested.

[Rainey]

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Why couldn't you have a series of escalator clauses then? If DVD sales makes "X" amount of money then the writers get "X" percent?

That is a good idea. However, would it be based on profit of the DVD or total sales?