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  • Chief Illinimac
    Gimme the Oscar, Friendo.
    • Dec 2004
    • 2365

    #106
    Re: No Country for Old Men

    Originally posted by USF11
    Anton didnt kill Brolin the cartel did, remember when they helped the grandma with the bags?
    Well that and they were the ones speeding away at the scene when Ed Tom showed up. Also, the Mexican that was shot by Llewellyn.
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    • JayBee74
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jul 2002
      • 22989

      #107
      Re: No Country for Old Men

      Originally posted by USF11
      Anton didnt kill Brolin the cartel did, remember when they helped the grandma with the bags?

      MDB was a pretty good movie no matter your politics.
      Yeah, for some reason that keeps slipping by me. I saw the grandma with the bags but still was focusing on Anton as the killer. Maybe they could have included a "Mexican shoot out" to clear up any confusion, but ultimately Moss's vices got the better of him, assuming his rendezvous with the slut was a setup or an inadvertent twist of fate that led to his death.

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      • Fresh Tendrils
        Strike Hard and Fade Away
        • Jul 2002
        • 36131

        #108
        Re: No Country for Old Men

        I think that rendezvous was a twist of fate.

        Anyway, I picked up the novel along with The Road by Cormac McCarthy (as well as Oil! by Upton Sinclair) and I have read a couple pages and so far its a great read. It seems like the Coens (so far at least) really captured the imagery from the novel as close as possible. I can't wait to finish it.



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        • Chief Illinimac
          Gimme the Oscar, Friendo.
          • Dec 2004
          • 2365

          #109
          Re: No Country for Old Men

          Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
          I think that rendezvous was a twist of fate.

          Anyway, I picked up the novel along with The Road by Cormac McCarthy (as well as Oil! by Upton Sinclair) and I have read a couple pages and so far its a great read. It seems like the Coens (so far at least) really captured the imagery from the novel as close as possible. I can't wait to finish it.
          The book is almost exactly the same as the movie with the exception of more insight into Chigurh (not really anything big) and the girl outside the motel. The Coens did a good job of adapting it. I read the book in one night waiting for a delayed plane, so it was a good read.
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          • ZB9
            Hall Of Fame
            • Nov 2004
            • 18387

            #110
            Re: No Country for Old Men

            Originally posted by Money99
            We can only assume that. Chigurh got lucky in that he just happened to drive down a major road where hotels were situated on and *bingo*.
            lol Del Rio is not exactly a metropolitan. It wouldnt be difficult to drive by every single motel in the town...and someone that is looking for $2 million would drive by every single motel in the town.

            Originally posted by Money99

            Didn't the 2 mobsters, that picked him up, say that they already tried to locate it through the transponder with no luck?
            Anton had the advantage of looking at Moss's phone bill. He knew to look in Del Rio
            Last edited by ZB9; 03-21-2008, 03:12 PM.

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            • Fresh Tendrils
              Strike Hard and Fade Away
              • Jul 2002
              • 36131

              #111
              Re: No Country for Old Men

              How did Anton know to look in Del Rio by looking at Moss' phone bill? The only thing I saw on the bill on that scene was Anton finding out that Moss' mother-in-law lived in Odessa.



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              • soltrain
                The Batman
                • Feb 2003
                • 6863

                #112
                Re: No Country for Old Men

                Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                How did Anton know to look in Del Rio by looking at Moss' phone bill? The only thing I saw on the bill on that scene was Anton finding out that Moss' mother-in-law lived in Odessa.
                Area codes, probably.
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                • ZB9
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 18387

                  #113
                  Re: No Country for Old Men

                  Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                  How did Anton know to look in Del Rio by looking at Moss' phone bill? The only thing I saw on the bill on that scene was Anton finding out that Moss' mother-in-law lived in Odessa.
                  Del Rio is on the bill also.

                  anyway, even without the phone bill....Del Rio was close to where they were. Anton probably would have looked there regardless.
                  Last edited by ZB9; 03-22-2008, 10:56 PM.

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                  • $$***IcingOnDaCake***$$
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                    • Mar 2008
                    • 40

                    #114
                    Re: No Country for Old Men

                    Thought the movie was pretty good.
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                    • MachoMyers
                      Old School
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 7670

                      #115
                      Re: No Country for Old Men

                      Originally posted by ZB9
                      good point imo

                      my take on it....the world was changing and Ed Tom and his old fashioned ways and values didnt fit in the new brutal, evil, crazy world.

                      Anton was a new kind of enemy for Ed Tom...a brutal, vicious, smart, and technological physcopath. Ed Tom wanted no part of this new evolution and pretty much gave up at the end and said screw it. It had become "no country for old men" like Ed Tom and his values.

                      ...just my two cents on it
                      But I love how it ends. Ed Tom's uncle (I believe), the man in the wheelchair, tells him the story about one of his distant relatives and getting killed by Natives. "This country is hard on people" is what he tells him. Ed Tom's dream that he explains to his wife also touches on how he will have to 'own up' and face his father when he dies. He just has that expression that he fears for what his father will think of him.

                      Great, great movie.

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                      • ZB9
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 18387

                        #116
                        Re: No Country for Old Men

                        Originally posted by Xavier12
                        But I love how it ends. Ed Tom's uncle (I believe), the man in the wheelchair, tells him the story about one of his distant relatives and getting killed by Natives. "This country is hard on people" is what he tells him. Ed Tom's dream that he explains to his wife also touches on how he will have to 'own up' and face his father when he dies. He just has that expression that he fears for what his father will think of him.

                        Great, great movie.
                        I agree. I thought it was a good ending too, with what the theme and title of the movie were based on.

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                        • ZB9
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                          • Nov 2004
                          • 18387

                          #117
                          Re: No Country for Old Men

                          btw, i think i know the reason why the story is set in 1980.

                          The late 70s/early 80s was when the drug trade really increased and started becoming a huge factor. The drug trade had something to do with helping to create what some people considered to be a "dismal tide" with society (Tom Bell and the El Paso sheriff called it the "dismal tide")...and it had something to do with the types that migrated to areas like Tom Bell's, and many SW border towns. Tom Bell had a hard time adjusting to the new environment.
                          Last edited by ZB9; 04-08-2008, 01:19 AM.

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                          • USF11
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                            • Jun 2003
                            • 4245

                            #118
                            Re: No Country for Old Men

                            Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                            How did Anton know to look in Del Rio by looking at Moss' phone bill? The only thing I saw on the bill on that scene was Anton finding out that Moss' mother-in-law lived in Odessa.
                            After watching the movie a second time, I believe that Del Rio is on the way to the Mexican Border. Anton knowing this drove in that general direction.
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                            • ZB9
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                              • Nov 2004
                              • 18387

                              #119
                              Re: No Country for Old Men

                              another btw, i didnt realize at first the actress that portrayed Carla Jean Moss was the Scottish girl from Trainspotting (yall know the one i mean, she was great in Trainspotting )
                              Last edited by ZB9; 04-08-2008, 12:17 AM.

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                              • ZB9
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 18387

                                #120
                                Re: No Country for Old Men

                                Originally posted by USF11
                                After watching the movie a second time, I believe that Del Rio is on the way to the Mexican Border. Anton knowing this drove in that general direction.
                                i think the phone bill was a factor also. There were a lot of calls to Del Rio on that bill. It was probably obvious to Anton that Moss had people there (remember Moss went to Del Rio because he said was going to borrow a car from a family member)

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