Are College Campuses Really Safer Now?

[superjames1992]

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Yep, there's tyranny going on in central Europe. I see the Swiss population are crying out because they don't have guns. OH NO! Canadians are slaves to our government BOO HOOO!

This post is dripping with sarcasm if you couldn't tell but it's making a point.

Yes, but the Canadian government could take away all your rights and you could do nothing about it because you do not have the right to form a militia or own firearms. In reality, you have no freedom, because it could all be taken away in the blink of an eye.

[superjames1992]

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If these people who came into college campuses looking to kill did not have guns, they would just use something else to achieve their goal anyways. Maybe they would come strolling into Virginia Tech with a bomb strapped to their back. Yeah, that sounds better, doesn't it...

[SPTO]

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Not a good point. Americans are more violent than the Canadians. If we had a magical wall and had no travel to Central or South America and there weren't millions of stolen guns on the market, then banning guns would make sense. Since we do have millions of firearms and drugs coming across the border and millions of stolen guns on the street, all you end up with is disarmed citizens. Again, banning guns in Baltimore, New York, DC, and LA did nothing.

People are people are you going to tell me that every American that's born are somehow more violent then every other nationality in the world? Also it's not like Canada doesn't have that kind of problem either. Toronto especially is feeling the grip of gun running as there are quite a number of gangs and people running around with guns but we haven't seen any drastic measures that allow our citzenry to easily obtain guns.

Oh and as for drugs...Vancouver and Toronto are big drug centres (more so vancouver) so it's not like it's a foreign concept here.

Look at Amsterdam, they've got guns and legalized prostitution but I don't hear about people running around killing each other with guns the way it goes on in some parts of the US.

BTW when did LA, DC, Baltimore ban guns? I know NYC has done some stricter gun laws and they've actually WORKED! Violent crime in NYC has been the lowest in recorded history.

[ballerzinc]

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If these people who came into college campuses looking to kill did not have guns, they would just use something else to achieve their goal anyways. Maybe they would come strolling into Virginia Tech with a bomb strapped to their back. Yeah, that sounds better, doesn't it...

So you'll settle for a school being shot up, but you draw the line with bombs.

[jmood88]

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If these people who came into college campuses looking to kill did not have guns, they would just use something else to achieve their goal anyways. Maybe they would come strolling into Virginia Tech with a bomb strapped to their back. Yeah, that sounds better, doesn't it...

Maybe they would fly a plane into it! Maybe they would drive a car into everyone!

[born_bad]

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Yes, but the Canadian government could take away all your rights and you could do nothing about it because you do not have the right to form a militia or own firearms. In reality, you have no freedom, because it could all be taken away in the blink of an eye.

You think some guns would defend you against the US governement? lol... This isn't the year 1812 or something. Guns wouldn't do a single thing if the US government decided to take away your rights (which it has done in the past - ask Japanese Americans about the the 1940s).

[SPTO]

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Yes, but the Canadian government could take away all your rights and you could do nothing about it because you do not have the right to form a militia or own firearms. In reality, you have no freedom, because it could all be taken away in the blink of an eye.

That could never happen in Canada, we elect leaders who'd never go that far. I mean Stephen Harper's Conservatives are pretty far to the right in Canadian politics but they'd be centrists in US politics. The way our form of government is set up we could never fall into a dictator's hand. It hasn't happened in England and we have the exact same form of government for the most part.

[superjames1992]

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So you'll settle for a school being shot up, but you draw the line with bombs.

No, but it's not going to be better just because you take away the guns (Which is impossible).

[MassNole]

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You take away the guns of the citizens, and you've got yourself tyranny. Every citizen in this country has the right to obtain a weapon.

Without weapons, the citizens of a country have no control. With no control, the government has all the power. With all this power, you have tyranny.

You give up your weapons, and you have nothing.

Umm no, they really don't.

[ballerzinc]

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You think some guns would defend you against the US governement? lol... This isn't the year 1812 or something. Guns wouldn't do a single thing if the US government decided to take away your rights (which it has done in the past - ask Japanese Americans about the the 1940s).

Word, the government can take away your liberties all they want. Just look at the actions of a certain President from the last 8 years.

[superjames1992]

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You think some guns would defend you against the US governement? lol... This isn't the year 1812 or something. Guns wouldn't do a single thing if the US government decided to take away your rights (which it has done in the past - ask Japanese Americans about the the 1940s).

If the people truly came together, it would happen. Plus, the American military would hopefully turn on the government. It would be stopped.

[ballerzinc]

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If the people truly came together, it would happen. Plus, the American military would hopefully turn on the government. It would be stopped.

But the majority of people who have guns (legally), are probably Republicans and they unfortunately are aligned with a party right now that loves to take away liberties from us.

[superjames1992]

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But the majority of people who have guns (legally), are probably Republicans and they unfortunately are aligned with a party right now that loves to take away liberties from us.

I believe it's the Democrats that want Universal Health Care, take away our 2nd amendment rights, bring back the Fairness Doctrine...

[SPTO]

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I believe it's the Democrats that want Universal Health Care, take away our 2nd amendment rights, bring back the Fairness Doctrine...

Universal Health Care.........is a good thing. Trust me, without universal health care I don't know where i'd be right now.

[ballerzinc]

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I believe it's the Democrats that want Universal Health Care, take away our 2nd amendment rights, bring back the Fairness Doctrine...

There's no way in hell the 2nd amendment will never change, at least for many many years. The Patriot Act took away many liberties and privacies and I saw that happen over the last 8 years.