Are College Campuses Really Safer Now?

[Cebby]

Re: Are College Campuses Really Safer Now?

That or to correctly interpret the 2nd Amendment and make it near impossible to purchase a gun.
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80 some percent of gun crimes are committed with illegally purchased firearms. Gun bans are what have made Baltimore, DC, New York, and LA the safest cities in the world.

Guns purchased illegally are expendable, between a half and a third of the price, and require no registration or background check.

[Jistic]

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80 some percent of gun crimes are committed with illegally purchased firearms. Gun bans are what have made Baltimore, DC, New York, and LA the safest cities in the world.

Guns purchased illegally are expendable, between a half and a third of the price, and require no registration or background check.

Even the CDC has stated that gun laws have no affect on lowering gun violence. Unless we're just gunna start beheading people for possession.

[ballerzinc]

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80 some percent of gun crimes are committed with illegally purchased firearms. Gun bans are what have made Baltimore, DC, New York, and LA the safest cities in the world.

Guns purchased illegally are expendable, between a half and a third of the price, and require no registration or background check.

Just to play devil's advocate, those guns that were purcahse illegally were probably at one time legally purchased. What Massnole was trying to say is that if it was extremely hard to get a gun, legal guns would be reduced and obviously illegal guns would be reduced to.

[jmood88]

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Or just do what Chris Rock said and make the bullets expensive.

[ballerzinc]

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Or just do what Chris Rock said and make the bullets expensive.

Haha, that's an awesome routine

[Cebby]

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Just to play devil's advocate, those guns that were purcahse illegally were probably at one time legally purchased. What Massnole was trying to say is that if it was extremely hard to get a gun, legal guns would be reduced and obviously illegal guns would be reduced to.

They'd be negligibly reduced. Have you ever heard of cocaine or heroin? Roughly 0% of those two drugs are grown or processed in the US, yet they're quite abundant. Guns come with drugs, only they're far easier to smuggle. A large portion of weapons are smuggled into the country, hence why prices of firearms in Florida, GA, Texas, and Cali are far lower than Maryland or New York, and often have much more powerful weaponry.

[Double Eights]

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Just to play devil's advocate, those guns that were purcahse illegally were probably at one time legally purchased. What Massnole was trying to say is that if it was extremely hard to get a gun, legal guns would be reduced and obviously illegal guns would be reduced to.

You take away the guns of the citizens, and you've got yourself tyranny. Every citizen in this country has the right to obtain a weapon.

Without weapons, the citizens of a country have no control. With no control, the government has all the power. With all this power, you have tyranny.

You give up your weapons, and you have nothing.

[wwharton]

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Exactly.

They are going in there for one reason, and one reason only...to kill. The only way to stop these people, is to kill them first. And the only way to kill them first, is for someone to have a weapon of their own.

Gun laws do one thing, and that is to prevent good law obiding citizens from obtaining and carrying guns. If someone wants to kill someone, they will do it. Banning people from getting guns just prevents the good people from being able to protect themselves from the dirtbags who don't care about laws...the dirtbags you see shooting up schools.

If the schools aren't going to protect their students (no metal detectors, very little campus police, etc..), then the students should have the right to do it themselves. Anyone can get a gun, not everyone can get a CCW permit. Allowing the students/teachers with the CCW permits to carry on campus, would help prevent the mass school shootings. Yes, psychos will still try to shoot up schools, but with armed students/teachers there will be less likely victims.

Do you own a gun? How many people have you killed? Shot at? Animals? How many times have you shot a gun? Held a gun?

I got a feeling I'd have more faith in myself going after a crazed attacker with my number two pencil than surviving sitting next to you with a gun in your possession.

[Double Eights]

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Do you own a gun? How many people have you killed? Shot at? Animals? How many times have you shot a gun? Held a gun?

I got a feeling I'd have more faith in myself going after a crazed attacker with my number two pencil than surviving sitting next to you with a gun in your possession.

I don't personally own any guns. My father has a couple shotguns, but that's about it.

I also never said I'd be one of the students carrying a gun. I have multiple friends who go to the gun range every weekend. Like I said....The one's who would be carrying on campus would have passed all the necessary tests needed to acquire a CCW permit.

Selective reading at it's finest

[ballerzinc]

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You take away the guns of the citizens, and you've got yourself tyranny. Every citizen in this country has the right to obtain a weapon.

Without weapons, the citizens of a country have no control. With no control, the government has all the power. With all this power, you have tyranny.

You give up your weapons, and you have nothing.

I agree with you dude, I was just playing devil's advocate. I'm all for personal freedom, and choice. It's just sometimes I see some of the guys my dad (who goes to shooting competitions all the time) shoots with and they are racist hicks, and I hate the thought about them having guns. The one guy actually said that instead of one his friends committing suicide he should of went into Philly and shot black people. These racist people are people I don't want to have guns. And he bought it legally, but he's an ignorant *******, and I hate when people that demonstrate they are the low of the low of the human race have guns.

[SPTO]

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You take away the guns of the citizens, and you've got yourself tyranny. Every citizen in this country has the right to obtain a weapon.

Without weapons, the citizens of a country have no control. With no control, the government has all the power. With all this power, you have tyranny.

You give up your weapons, and you have nothing.

Yep, there's tyranny going on in central Europe. I see the Swiss population are crying out because they don't have guns. OH NO! Canadians are slaves to our government BOO HOOO!

This post is dripping with sarcasm if you couldn't tell but it's making a point.

[jmood88]

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I don't personally own any guns. My father has a couple shotguns, but that's about it.

I also never said I'd be one of the students carrying a gun. I have multiple friends who go to the gun range every weekend. Like I said....The one's who would be carrying on campus would have passed all the necessary tests needed to acquire a CCW permit.

Selective reading at it's finest

It's nothing about selective reading, you act as if it's easy to just stand up and shoot someone, ignoring the fact that it would be a chaotic situation with a group of people carrying guns who more than likely had not had any experience going through something like that but somehow they'll magically be able to make things better.

[superjames1992]

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You take away the guns of the citizens, and you've got yourself tyranny. Every citizen in this country has the right to obtain a weapon.

Without weapons, the citizens of a country have no control. With no control, the government has all the power. With all this power, you have tyranny.

You give up your weapons, and you have nothing.

Exactly.

[The GIGGAS]

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Yep, there's tyranny going on in central Europe. I see the Swiss population are crying out because they don't have guns. OH NO! Canadians are slaves to our government BOO HOOO!

This post is dripping with sarcasm if you couldn't tell but it's making a point.

Excellent use of sarcasm.

[Cebby]

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Yep, there's tyranny going on in central Europe. I see the Swiss population are crying out because they don't have guns. OH NO! Canadians are slaves to our government BOO HOOO!

This post is dripping with sarcasm if you couldn't tell but it's making a point.

Not a good point. Americans are more violent than the Canadians. If we had a magical wall and had no travel to Central or South America and there weren't millions of stolen guns on the market, then banning guns would make sense. Since we do have millions of firearms and drugs coming across the border and millions of stolen guns on the street, all you end up with is disarmed citizens. Again, banning guns in Baltimore, New York, DC, and LA did nothing.