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  • Jdoug312
    Banned
    • Oct 2010
    • 1585

    #9676
    Re: Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

    Originally posted by LetThatBoyCook
    Wait, why do you some of you find Tupac overrated? I've never heard a bad verse of his and I've probably heard over 98% of his material.
    I think Tupac/Biggie are overrated the same way I think a ton of legends (rap and sports alike) are overrated. Because they're no longer putting out music, and they were the best back in the day, people automatically still give them the benefit of the doubt of being the best now. I am not one of those people.

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    • BlueNGold
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2009
      • 21817

      #9677
      Re: Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

      Originally posted by Jdoug312
      I think Tupac/Biggie are overrated the same way I think a ton of legends (rap and sports alike) are overrated. Because they're no longer putting out music, and they were the best back in the day, people automatically still give them the benefit of the doubt of being the best now. I am not one of those people.
      Well who today even stacks up to them? Jay, Em, and.....? I just think that's a big time misuse of the word "overrated" when referring to this topic in particular. No chance in hell are two of the greatest to ever touch mics "overrated". I don't care how much time has passed by.
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      • LionsFanNJ
        All Star
        • Apr 2006
        • 9464

        #9678
        Originally posted by Weeks
        Unpopular:

        -Big L is the best rapper/freestyler/punch line rapper ever
        -Big Pun is the second best rapper ever
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        • Weeks
          L Corleone
          • Aug 2009
          • 2990

          #9679
          Re: Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

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          • Yeah...THAT Guy
            Once in a Lifetime Memory
            • Dec 2006
            • 17294

            #9680
            Re: Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

            Forgot about these two, but you can mark me down as another person that liked Lasers and listens to it more than Lupe's other stuff; and I'm a big fan of B.o.B (though his newest CD was pretty disappointing to me in comparison to his mixtapes and his first CD).
            NFL: Bills
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            NCAA: Syracuse
            Soccer: USMNT/DC United

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            • Fly3
              Banned
              • Sep 2011
              • 1180

              #9681
              Re: Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

              Originally posted by BlueNGold
              Well who today even stacks up to them? Jay, Em, and.....? I just think that's a big time misuse of the word "overrated" when referring to this topic in particular. No chance in hell are two of the greatest to ever touch mics "overrated". I don't care how much time has passed by.
              Em is the best out of the four, and he's not even in my top 20 favorite rappers.

              Haha, there are plenty rappers out today who **** on all of these "greats" technically; they just don't get the recognition. It's impossible to make an all-time "greats" list when you haven't heard every rapper who has ever lived.

              Anyone who says a rapper is the greatest of all time is overrating him 99.9% of the time.

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              • Beantown
                #DoYourJob
                • Feb 2005
                • 31523

                #9682
                Originally posted by Fly3
                Em is the best out of the four, and he's not even in my top 20 favorite rappers.

                Haha, there are plenty rappers out today who **** on all of these "greats" technically; they just don't get the recognition. It's impossible to make an all-time "greats" list when you haven't heard every rapper who has ever lived.
                .
                Not a single person you have ever posted would even be allowed to wash the **** off the shoes of Em, Jay, Tupac, Biggie, etc.

                I would love to see the full list of 20 people you can come up with that'd even deserve to be mentioned in the same thought as any of the classics. And yes, those four and others mentioned in this thread are classic, all time greats whether you've listened to every rapper out there or not.

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                • TheShizNo1
                  Asst 2 the Comm Manager
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 26341

                  #9683
                  I really need to sign in on the computer and get that ignore list together.
                  Originally posted by Mo
                  Just once I'd like to be the one they call a jerk off.
                  Originally posted by Mo
                  You underestimate my laziness
                  Originally posted by Mo
                  **** ya


                  ...

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                  • DukeC
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 5751

                    #9684
                    Re: Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

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                    • Fly3
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 1180

                      #9685
                      Re: Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

                      Originally posted by Beantown
                      Not a single person you have ever posted would even be allowed to wash the **** off the shoes of Em, Jay, Tupac, Biggie, etc.

                      I would love to see the full list of 20 people you can come up with that'd even deserve to be mentioned in the same thought as any of the classics. And yes, those four and others mentioned in this thread are classic, all time greats whether you've listened to every rapper out there or not.
                      20 of my favorites:

                      GZA
                      Nas
                      Max B
                      K-Rino
                      Z-Ro
                      Aesop Rock
                      Lil Flip
                      Plies
                      Jay Electronica
                      MF DOOM
                      Young Dro
                      Blu
                      Earl Sweatshirt
                      Young Jeezy
                      Lauryn Hill
                      Curren$y
                      RZA
                      Hurricane Chris
                      Lecrae
                      Danny Brown

                      Meh, just a rough list. Em and Biggie may crack in there on some days. Tupac and Jay just bore me. Sorry.

                      DOOM, Aesop Rock, Nas, RZA, Earl, and Blu are actually better than Jay, Pac, and Biggie technically. With Em, you could argue.

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                      • Fly3
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 1180

                        #9686
                        Re: Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

                        Originally posted by TheShizNo1
                        I really need to sign in on the computer and get that ignore list together.
                        Can't handle someone not sharing your opinion?

                        When you say Tupac actually lived the things that he talked about, you mean that he witnessed those things, right?

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                        • TheShizNo1
                          Asst 2 the Comm Manager
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 26341

                          #9687
                          Originally posted by Fly3
                          Can't handle someone not sharing your opinion?

                          When you say Tupac actually lived the things that he talked about, you mean that he witnessed those things, right?
                          No, I can't stand your blatant ignorance.

                          Yes Fly, that's exactly what I mean.
                          Originally posted by Mo
                          Just once I'd like to be the one they call a jerk off.
                          Originally posted by Mo
                          You underestimate my laziness
                          Originally posted by Mo
                          **** ya


                          ...

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                          • Jdoug312
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 1585

                            #9688
                            Re: Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

                            Originally posted by BlueNGold
                            Well who today even stacks up to them? Jay, Em, and.....? I just think that's a big time misuse of the word "overrated" when referring to this topic in particular. No chance in hell are two of the greatest to ever touch mics "overrated". I don't care how much time has passed by.

                            Biggie/Pac were ahead of the game. They're style of rap was the stepping stone for (good) artists today. However, as Fly alluded to, when you actually break down the talents of Biggie/Pac, while good, there are better rappers out. Can we all agree that Biggie was not lyrical? Good. Biggie was great because of his flow, plain and simple. Now for Pac it's a little harder to top, but it can be done. Better wordsmith? Los. More poetic? Wale. In tuned with society's issues? Wale/J. Cole. When you break down the technical skill of rappers, and how they compare to other rappers, you'll find that the "Greatest of all time" list becomes a lot harder to put together. Are there better examples of rappers who are better than Pac in certain aspects than Los, Wale, and J. Cole? I'm sure, but these 3 certainly come to mind.

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                            • TheShizNo1
                              Asst 2 the Comm Manager
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 26341

                              #9689
                              Originally posted by Jdoug312
                              Biggie/Pac were ahead of the game. They're style of rap was the stepping stone for (good) artists today. However, as Fly alluded to, when you actually break down the talents of Biggie/Pac, while good, there are better rappers out. Can we all agree that Biggie was not lyrical? Good. Biggie was great because of his flow, plain and simple. Now for Pac it's a little harder to top, but it can be done. Better wordsmith? Los. More poetic? Wale. In tuned with society's issues? Wale/J. Cole. When you break down the technical skill of rappers, and how they compare to other rappers, you'll find that the "Greatest of all time" list becomes a lot harder to put together. Are there better examples of rappers who are better than Pac in certain aspects than Los, Wale, and J. Cole? I'm sure, but these 3 certainly come to mind.
                              Whoa whoa, wale and cole are more poetic? By what standards?
                              Originally posted by Mo
                              Just once I'd like to be the one they call a jerk off.
                              Originally posted by Mo
                              You underestimate my laziness
                              Originally posted by Mo
                              **** ya


                              ...

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                              • Fly3
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 1180

                                #9690
                                Re: Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

                                Originally posted by TheShizNo1
                                No, I can't stand your blatant ignorance.


                                Who do you think you are? This is a public forum; opinions will clash. Branding someone ignorant for the fact that you can't wrap your head around his/her thought process is actually pretty ignorant in itself.

                                But yeah, keep keep preaching to me on how I need to find a good male role model and bringing me up to speed on the state of America's youth.

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