The Dark Knight Rises

[Blzer]

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Sexist much?

Perhaps if it comes off like that, you can call it that. But I just don't like the sound of it. What I like less is villains coming out of nowhere. Bruce Wayne took forever to become the Batman character he is now. Where did these people come from, and how is it they can rival him? Why were they in hiding for so long?

Or it can be like Spider-Man where someone like Harry or Brock become their villainous characters in a matter of minutes, instantly knowing everything there is to know about supernaturalism that took Peter Parker years to master. And to think a slim girl like Hathaway can plop in there and double as some normal love interest (or whatever she'll be) as well as a Kung Fu fighting bad-*** in a cat suit. I say that unrealisticness stops at Batman. But I trust Nolan and practically ensure he'll be doing the right thing with it anyway.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Call me the biggest sexist in the universe but I really don't want to see Catwoman in any Dark Knight film.

I'm upset. Hopefully this "fresh take" on Catwoman is successful.

[jmood88]

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Is there a reason you don't want her in other than the fact that she's a woman?

[Blzer]

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EDIT: Nevermind, I thought your post was directed toward me.

[DickDalewood]

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This will be awesome. And a female character can easily dominate a bunch of dudes with her quickness and agility, which is what Catwoman is all about.

Besides... it's Nolan... it will be pure money.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Is there a reason you don't want her in other than the fact that she's a woman?

Some of the reasons Blzer posted and I also said earlier in the thread that I just don't find that villian to be engaging on any level nor threatening.

Not to mention that with what Bruce has already gone through in the first two films, a Catwoman storyline seems like a piece of cake compared to the previous villians

Now I am intrigued with Nolan saying he would only bring her in if he could have a fresh take. So we'll see.

[CMH]

For those who can't wait to see Hathaway in a catsuit, don't hold your breath. I seriously doubt Nolan is gonna vamp up that character if his prior films are any indication. That would make the character too campy if she is simply portrayed as a sex kitten so to speak and totally goes against Nolan's film methods. That's why mentioning Biel is humourous because if you want Catwoman to be simply someone who looks the best in a tight outfit then you might as well start remaking the Burton movies again because acting ability doesn't count obviously.

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Why you gotta be like that?

But yes I don't expect we will see black leather like in Batman Returns. I do expect she will wear something tight.

She is, after all, Batman's love interest in the comics. If she doesn't play up her sexuality a lot of the character is lost.




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[Seymour Scagnetti]

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I could be reading too much into this but the press release said Hathaway is playing Selina Kyle while Hardy is playing Bane. Notice how they mention Catwoman by her real name but don't use Bane's real name so maybe this could mean that a new reimagined character of Selina Kyle is in the movie as Batman's love interest and not the Catwoman character. That would be a fresh take and would be preferable for me. Makes sense because having to explain 2 villain backstories will take up way too much of the movie.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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Some of the reasons Blzer posted and I also said earlier in the thread that I just don't find that villian to be engaging on any level nor threatening.

Catwoman's threat has never been on a state of alert/crisis level like say The Joker or other major Batman villains and this is what sets her apart from the others. Her threat comes from her ability (aka sexuality) to make Bruce Wayne want to be Batman 24/7 so he can knock her bottom out on a daily basis. Obviously Catwoman plays on Bruce's internal struggles more than simply devising a scheme to bring Gotham to their knees.

Perhaps if it comes off like that, you can call it that. But I just don't like the sound of it. What I like less is villains coming out of nowhere. Bruce Wayne took forever to become the Batman character he is now. Where did these people come from, and how is it they can rival him? Why were they in hiding for so long?

Why does every villain need a back story? Scarecrow was already there or at least 95% there in Batman Begins. Ra's was just as mysterious. The Joker had none. Really, the only "villain" that has had a truly dedicated back-story has been Harvey Two-Face. They exist because Batman exists.

With that said, I don't see why a lot of back story needs to be devoted to Selina or Bane anyway. Catwoman's introduction in the comics was pretty damn simple and could be done adequately in a film in about 5 minutes. Bane's could be just as simple too.

A character's back story doesn't necessarily have to be thrust out in the beginning of the film; it can interwoven in their actions and motivations throughout the film.

And to think a slim girl like Hathaway can plop in there and double as some normal love interest (or whatever she'll be) as well as a Kung Fu fighting bad-*** in a cat suit. I say that unrealisticness stops at Batman. But I trust Nolan and practically ensure he'll be doing the right thing with it anyway.

I don't expect her to don a catsuit. Something slim? Yes. Something black? Yes, but nothing close to Batman Returns or Catwoman. I could see Selina being a member of elite Gotham (and therefore set up a connection to Bruce Wayne), but still have her being a cat-burglar by either have her steal from the mob or from Gotham's elite. Plus, Catwoman's more agile and gymnastically oriented than being a fighter.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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[ex carrabba fan]

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Catwoman's threat has never been on a state of alert/crisis level like say The Joker or other major Batman villains and this is what sets her apart from the others. Her threat comes from her ability (aka sexuality) to make Bruce Wayne want to be Batman 24/7 so he can knock her bottom out on a daily basis. Obviously Catwoman plays on Bruce's internal struggles more than simply devising a scheme to bring Gotham to their knees.

I think that goes without saying.

What I was saying was compared to all of the other threats and problems he's overcome in the first two films, I just don't buy him getting "seduced" or what have you by some broad. I don't buy him letting himself get distracted to the point where it would cause too much mayhem.

[BlueNGold]

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I'll spoiler tag this, but it's a minor detail about how Catwoman is going to be introduced in the movie.

Spoiler

According to IGN, Catwoman is going to be filling the void left by Batman at the end of TDK when he went into hiding.

[Beantown]

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I'll spoiler tag this, but it's a minor detail about how Catwoman is going to be introduced in the movie.

Spoiler

According to IGN, Catwoman is going to be filling the void left by Batman at the end of TDK when he went into hiding.

Now that is an interesting little twist.

[jmood88]

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Wow that is pretty cool.

[LionsFanNJ]

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I'll spoiler tag this, but it's a minor detail about how Catwoman is going to be introduced in the movie.

Spoiler

According to IGN, Catwoman is going to be filling the void left by Batman at the end of TDK when he went into hiding.

Now THAT is part of what i envisioned for Catwoman's existence in the movies. Variant of whats canon in the comic world too which is nice.