*** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

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  • Brandon13
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    • Oct 2005
    • 8915

    #1891
    Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

    Originally posted by Skerik
    Didn't see this posted - apologies if it was. I've read a lot of theories and analysis about this show, but this is among the best of them.
    I may have missed a post of yours, so my apologies if so, but did the finale do anything to redeem the final season/show in general for you? I know you were getting more and more frustrated with it down the stretch.

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    • DrJones
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      • Mar 2003
      • 9108

      #1892
      Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

      Originally posted by YankeePride
      Yea, the cabin is still very unclear to me. I feel as if there is something missing. Either a scene that was edited out or a plot point that wasn't explained fully.

      Someone says: "Help me." Whether it's Jacob or MiB, the question seems confusing. Why would either of them ask for help in that manner?
      The real answer is that the producers originally had something different in mind when it came to the Jacob/MiB/cabin scenario. To me, the only way that scene retroactively fits is making the figure in the chair be the MiB, who's impersonating a "trapped" Jacob in order to manipulate Ben & Locke. So I think that can be explained away using a little imagination.

      I have a tougher time with Claire, though. Her abandoning Aaron to join the MiB (who was impersonating Christian at the time) in Season 4 still makes little sense to me.
      Originally posted by Thrash13
      Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
      Originally posted by slickdtc
      DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
      Originally posted by Kipnis22
      yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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      • Beantown
        #DoYourJob
        • Feb 2005
        • 31523

        #1893
        Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

        Originally posted by DrJones
        The real answer is that the producers originally had something different in mind when it came to the Jacob/MiB/cabin scenario. To me, the only way that scene retroactively fits is making the figure in the chair be the MiB, who's impersonating a "trapped" Jacob in order to manipulate Ben & Locke. So I think that can be explained away using a little imagination.

        I have a tougher time with Claire, though. Her abandoning Aaron to join the MiB (who was impersonating Christian at the time) in Season 4 still makes little sense to me.
        I think, to understand the Claire/MiB thing, you have to use the same bit of imagination that you suggest to understand the cabin:

        We've seen how effectively the MiB can convince people to follow him/do what he wants through his promises and clever little speeches. I think we're just supposed to assume that Christian was able to convince Claire to follow him. We've been told by that once Jacob or the MiB starts talking to you it's pretty much over as far as the fact that they can convince you of whatever they want through different means, so I think we're just supposed to assume that "Christian" was able to convince her somehow.

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        • DrJones
          All Star
          • Mar 2003
          • 9108

          #1894
          Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

          Originally posted by Longhorn
          I think, to understand the Claire/MiB thing, you have to use the same bit of imagination that you suggest to understand the cabin:

          We've seen how effectively the MiB can convince people to follow him/do what he wants through his promises and clever little speeches. I think we're just supposed to assume that Christian was able to convince Claire to follow him. We've been told by that once Jacob or the MiB starts talking to you it's pretty much over as far as the fact that they can convince you of whatever they want through different means, so I think we're just supposed to assume that "Christian" was able to convince her somehow.
          I dunno. Sawyer, Kate, Jin, and others traipsed around the Island for awhile without appearing to be corrupted. Only Sayid and Claire are referred to as "infected". It's implied that the MiB accomplished this by reviving Sayid as he was about to pass into death. It sorta holds together, as Sayid considered himself a doomed soul with nothing to live for except the promise of being reunited with Nadia in some fashion, and Sayid was useful to MiB as a weapon.

          Claire, though? Why would she willingly give up Aaron, the most important thing in her life? What use was she to MiB?

          EDIT: Re-reading the episode synopsis where this occurs, it looks like the producers may be hinting that Claire died or was near death when her house at the barracks was hit by an RPG during an attack by Keamy's goons. As I recall, it seemed like the unlikeliest survival of a shoulda-been-fatal attack on the show, as Claire appeared relatively unhurt. This might explain why Miles kept looking at her strangely. I suppose it's possible that Claire was revived and infected by the MiB in the same manner as Sayid was, but for what purpose? Seems like the producers originally had something more in mind regarding the "infected" business (not to mention Aaron's importance), but let it drop.
          Originally posted by Thrash13
          Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
          Originally posted by slickdtc
          DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
          Originally posted by Kipnis22
          yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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          • CMH
            Making you famous
            • Oct 2002
            • 26203

            #1895
            Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

            There definitely has to be more to the whole thing with the infected. I don't think it was ever explained. Is it imagination? Is it real? What does it mean to be infected?

            Yea, we got a glimpse of it with the Temple people, Jack and Sayid, but there has to be more to it. Everyone was talking about the infection. Even Desmond.
            "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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            • rsnomar05
              MVP
              • Dec 2003
              • 3662

              #1896
              Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

              Well, it turns out that explanation was extremely well thought out, but also fake. The poster was a former Bad Robot intern who was released 3 years ago. His reasoning may still be correct, but there isn't any inside info.

              Update: 26th May I've spoken to ABC and they have confirmed that this person did use to work for ABC as an Intern but were released 3 years...

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              • Sportsforever
                NL MVP
                • Mar 2005
                • 20368

                #1897
                Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

                Originally posted by rsnomar05
                Well, it turns out that explanation was extremely well thought out, but also fake. The poster was a former Bad Robot intern who was released 3 years ago. His reasoning may still be correct, but there isn't any inside info.

                http://lostmediamentions.blogspot.co...on-finale.html
                I don't think that means it was fake. He would have been released in 2007, or around season 3/4. He definitely could have sat in on these discussions, or had contact with people that did.
                "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                • rsnomar05
                  MVP
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 3662

                  #1898
                  Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

                  Originally posted by Sportsforever
                  I don't think that means it was fake. He would have been released in 2007, or around season 3/4. He definitely could have sat in on these discussions, or had contact with people that did.
                  Except that on the Bills Forum where the original post was from he was saying he still worked at Bad Robot, which is clearly not true.

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                  • evitkus
                    Rookie
                    • May 2010
                    • 2

                    #1899
                    Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

                    Originally posted by DrJones
                    I dunno. Sawyer, Kate, Jin, and others traipsed around the Island for awhile without appearing to be corrupted. Only Sayid and Claire are referred to as "infected". It's implied that the MiB accomplished this by reviving levitra review Sayid as he was about seroquel warnings to pass into death. It sorta holds together, as Sayid considered himself a doomed soul with nothing to live for except the promise of being reunited with Nadia in some fashion, and Sayid was useful to MiB as a weapon.

                    Claire, though? Why would she willingly give up Aaron, the most important thing in her life? What use was she to MiB?

                    EDIT: Re-reading the episode synopsis where this occurs, it looks like the producers may be hinting that Claire died or was near death when her house at the barracks was hit by an RPG during an attack by Keamy's goons. As I recall, it seemed like the unlikeliest survival of a shoulda-been-fatal attack on the show, as Claire appeared relatively unhurt. This might explain why Miles kept looking at her strangely. I suppose it's possible that Claire was revived and infected by the MiB in the same manner as Sayid was, but for what purpose? Seems like the producers originally had something more in mind regarding the "infected" business (not to mention Aaron's importance), but let it drop.


                    I don't know what to think about this season
                    Last edited by evitkus; 06-22-2010, 03:39 AM.

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                    • VanCitySportsGuy
                      NYG_Meth
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 9351

                      #1900
                      Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

                      Another ending to the series was filmed for the DVD. It leaked out.

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                      • WDOgF0reL1fe
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                        • Apr 2005
                        • 3427

                        #1901
                        Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

                        ^lollll what?!!!!!
                        was that
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                        • CMH
                          Making you famous
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 26203

                          #1902
                          Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

                          The joke endings need to stop.
                          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                          "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                          • dossier
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 2272

                            #1903
                            Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

                            haha that was pretty funny.

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                            • ~LiverpoolRed~
                              YNWA
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 10755

                              #1904
                              Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

                              That was dumb.

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                              • LionsFanNJ
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                                • Apr 2006
                                • 9464

                                #1905
                                Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

                                .....The Lost epilogue is out there for those astute enough to find it. "The New Man in Charge". 12 minutes.
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