*** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

[soltrain]

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soltrain - I didn't miss the story at all, our discussion was simply about one small part of it that i was confused about is all. the rest of the story was really good IMO, especially the contrast of corruption vs redemption that we've seen in the last two episodes..

longhorn - as for trusting the writers...there is no reasonable way I could see any explanation for the scenario that I put forth. that's why i'm very happy I misunderstood it.

johnny - nature is full of things we do not understand so yes it could be something that could be real if you are able to suspend some belief. my point was that it's one thing to suspend some belief when you're reading something, it's completely another thing to simply have random things happening just for the WTF factor.

But Alex not being Ben's real daughter has been a huge part, if not the biggest part, of Ben's character. It always showed his underlying compassion and mystique over his demented, ****ed up attitude. He was supposed to kill Alex and Danielle. Instead he kidnaps Alex and tells Danielle to never show her face around the Others again.

That is what pissed Widmore off and eventually got Ben to send him off the Island - which is fitting when we look at the Ben from last night who DIDN'T put himself up for personal gain at the expense of someone else.

[VanCitySportsGuy]

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I felt like I got closure for Ben's story last night. He made the decision to help Alex over himself off the island and if he were to die on the Island, I'm okay with it.

The acting by Emerson was top notch. I felt sorry for him when all the people were hugging on the beach and he was by himself looking like his dog just died.

[soltrain]

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I felt like I got closure for Ben's story last night. He made the decision to help Alex over himself off the island and if he were to die on the Island, I'm okay with it.

The acting by Emerson was top notch. I felt sorry for him when all the people were hugging on the beach and he was by himself looking like his dog just died.

Yeah - I was hoping Jack was going to offer a handshake with a smile. I love they are going to leave on the beach, though. LOVE LOVE LOVE. I hope Ben takes Sawyer's old pad.

[DrJones]

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Yeah - I was hoping Jack was going to offer a handshake with a smile.

Um. Ben is a mass murderer.

[CMH]

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After last night's episode I started thinking about Michael Emerson after Lost.

Daniel Dae Kim is the first cast regular to land a job after Lost. He'll be in the remake of Hawaii Five-O.

Michael Emerson needs to be in a really good drama series after Lost. I don't want to see him in a sitcom or some ridiculous nonsense show about vampires or something. He needs to be in a really good drama series and he needs to be a huge supporting cast member. Guy is going to get a lot of job offers.

[soltrain]

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Um. Ben is a mass murderer.

Um. Ben and Jack's relationship is a little more complicated than knowing Ben has murdered many people.

Just about every person on the show has killed someone at this point.

[ChaseB]

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I think one of the interesting things developing so far is how people's lives are better in the flash sideways. It seems like pretty much every character has it better in some way and it kind of makes you think that maybe the island isn't so amazing -- gives some ammunition to the MiB in a way.

[USF11]

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I think one of the interesting things developing so far is how people's lives are better in the flash sideways. It seems like pretty much every character has it better in some way and it kind of makes you think that maybe the island isn't so amazing -- gives some ammunition to the MiB in a way.

I'm in agreement, I don't think Jacob is the good guy.

Either its shades of grey or the big reveal is Jacob being bad.

[CMH]

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I think one of the interesting things developing so far is how people's lives are better in the flash sideways. It seems like pretty much every character has it better in some way and it kind of makes you think that maybe the island isn't so amazing -- gives some ammunition to the MiB in a way.

I guess it depends on the person, though, I get your point.

If John Locke isn't killed, his life on the Island is better than off. Sayid doesn't have Nadia in the flash sideways, though, I guess you could say that he never knows what it is like to lose her.

It's interesting, the differences. Will like to see if Hurley's lucky streak is really such a great thing. Can't wait for a Sawyer-centric episode to see what his life is like (and to find out where he's on the Island) and we don't know what Sun and Jin are like.

[Steel5]

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Fantastic episode last night. Has me absolutely pumped for the rest of the season.

[ChaseB]

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I guess it depends on the person, though, I get your point.

If John Locke isn't killed, his life on the Island is better than off. Sayid doesn't have Nadia in the flash sideways, though, I guess you could say that he never knows what it is like to lose her.

It's interesting, the differences. Will like to see if Hurley's lucky streak is really such a great thing. Can't wait for a Sawyer-centric episode to see what his life is like (and to find out where he's on the Island) and we don't know what Sun and Jin are like.

I feel like Locke found more peace off the island than if he had gone on it -- regardless of the destiny stuff etc. He died with so many questions and now his body is being used by some sort of entity. I guess you're saying that if people had just listened to Locke his life would have been better on the island because he never would have had to leave to try to bring everyone back (he was tricked by MiB to do this though). Either way, at least in the flash sideways he came to terms with his handicap and was going to get married -- he did still want to get married even in the first timeline.

But yes, I do think in some sense people's lives were better on than off the island, I just don't feel like it's so clear cut, which makes it all the more interesting. I'm just surprised more talk hasn't been about the flash sideways is all.

As for Jin, last time we saw him he was in a freezer handcuffed when Sayid found him so maybe he decided to run after all even though he was told not to way back in that Season 1 flashback before the crash.

[DrJones]

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Um. Ben and Jack's relationship is a little more complicated than knowing Ben has murdered many people.

Just about every person on the show has killed someone at this point.

It's not that complicated. Ben murdered Locke, his own father, and several dozen others in cold blood. Jack's supposed to be cool with this? Why? If Jack was happy to see Ben, I'd consider that to be the most unrealistic thing I've seen on the show.

[soltrain]

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It's not that complicated. Ben murdered Locke, his own father, and several dozen others in cold blood. Jack's supposed to be cool with this? Why? If Jack was happy to see Ben, I'd consider that to be the most unrealistic thing I've seen on the show.

Jack has no idea Ben murdered Locke. He also has no idea what role Ben played in the Purge. The whole battle over the Island is long over (between the Losties and the Others), and Ben and Jack formed some bond while they were trying to get back to the Island.

Ben helped him get back to the Island so he could find himself. They haven't seen each other since crazy time traveling was happening. Ben was with other characters (Sun, Lapidus) that Jack trusts. It's not that far-fetched. I really don't know what you are talking about.

[ODogg]

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One thing I was wondering is it possible that Ben actually did go to the MIB but it was omitted on the show and it just skipped to him appearing to go to the good Losties and seemingly refusing the MIB? If he went to the MIB and it was not shown, he could be a plant with the good guys, only to betray them somehow in the end. The show has done tricks like this in the past.

[moose1619]

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Someting that caught my attention that i found curious. Richard said Jacob touched him and therefore he couldnt die, right? Well does that apply to the other candidates that he touched? If so how could Locke die, he was touched by Jacob? Was it because Locke died off the island and maybe you can't die on the island if you have been touched by Jacob?