Dexter (Season 4)

[CMH]

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Hall and Lithgow not knowing where the story is going next, or at least giving that suspense to the audience, doesnt necessarily mean that the writers dont have an idea where it's going next

The interview was given by Executive Producer Clive Philips.

And I know for sure that the team doesn't know because this isn't the first time they've said this. When preparing for Season 4 they said they sat in the writers room trying to figure out a way to top Season 3.

They've also said that whenever they have an idea they don't save it. They write to make the best season possible and then worry about making the next season better when it's time to develop the story.

[ZB9]

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The interview was given by Executive Producer Clive Philips.

And I know for sure that the team doesn't know because this isn't the first time they've said this. When preparing for Season 4 they said they sat in the writers room trying to figure out a way to top Season 3.

They've also said that whenever they have an idea they don't save it. They write to make the best season possible and then worry about making the next season better when it's time to develop the story.

good point, but I dont think he would tell everyone even if they did know what they were going to do next season. He certainly wants to give some suspense to the audience that next season is going to be unpredictable even if they have some ideas where they are going to go.

Im sure your right that they dont know exactly what they are going to do. However, I bet they have ideas as to where they want the next season to go. For example, ending with Deb finding out about Dexter's mom was certainly done to set up that story arc in season 5. They might not know exactly what they are going to do with that story arc, but they know that is going to be a major theme in season 5 with the way they set it up ending season 4.

[aholbert32]

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. For example, ending with Deb finding out about Dexter's mom was certainly done to set up that story arc in season 5. They might not know exactly what they are going to do with that story arc, but they know that is going to be a major theme in season 5 with the way they set it up ending season 4.

I'm starting to doubt that because of the interview. I think they want to save that story arc for the final season because where do you go after Deb finds out Dexter is a serial killer.

[The Chef]

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I honestly believe that with this ending the writers have painted themselves into a severe corner. But then perhaps they can figure a way out of it that I haven't thought of. The question is will Dexter report Rita's death to the police and risk Trinity's family recognizing him or will he quietly dispose of her like he does most of his victims and then have the scrutiny of the police looking at him for the murder (the police always suspect the spouse and she and Dexter had been arguing, and she had kissed that other guy which gives Dexter motive). I can't see how they resolve this without jumping the shark in regards to believability but then like I said, maybe they can figure it out..

Disagree, how would him reporting Rita's death somehow expose him to Trinity's family recognizing him? If he was so worried about that then he didnt show it as he was standing in plain sight outside their house as they were being escorted by the police during the raid. He has to report it, I dont see anything else he can do.

[Stumbleweed]

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Agreed... don't think that's really a concern.

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Like he's gonna chop Rita up and put her in the Gulf Stream... that makes no sense.

The only risk is that it comes out that he was onto Trinity the whole time and did nothing to report him as a normal cop would. That would lead to questions of what else he planned instead of turning him into the cops... but I dunno, I just don't think Trinity's family will be in the picture at all for this to be a problem, they'll all probably be in therapy for the next 20 years.

The real concern is Deb.. that's the one thing that would bring Dexter down IMO... he's too clever for some jerkoff like Quinn to get to the truth, unless Batista recognized Trinity in the station or something like that (maybe Dexter/Trinity showing up on security camera at the parking garage), I think Deb putting all the pieces together would be the only thing that would bring Dex down.

[CMH]

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Im sure your right that they dont know exactly what they are going to do. However, I bet they have ideas as to where they want the next season to go.

I think they have some setups for just in case. But, every season has always ended a chapter in Dexter's life. He always closes the case and then moves on to the next story.

I don't think it's a bad thing because I think it's best for this series. If they always knew how it would end then they would write toward that end and it would start getting redundant. A show like this needs to be chapters. Having said that...

I'm starting to doubt that because of the interview. I think they want to save that story arc for the final season because where do you go after Deb finds out Dexter is a serial killer.

This is the major arc of the show at this point. This is proof that the producers know that eventually the show has to end and they've laid the big setup for it to happen.

But, I don't think they know how they'll use it. And that's ok. They don't want to know because knowing would change the show.

[LionsFanNJ]

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I called it. With the way the season was heading I knew

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someone in Dexter's life was going to die for one Deb hot on the trail of Trinity especially after Lundy's death, and then Rita and Dex's relationship getting better somewhat. I've learned most things like that never last in TV.


But sadface i have no more Julie Benz to look at.

As for next season

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I doubt the Deb/Dexter thing will be paid off based on the comments Phillips said in the interview. Perhaps if they say that season six will be the last one i can see next years finale being the big reveal about Dexter. Who knows though with the way they write this show.

[aholbert32]

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Guys....no need for spoilers on speculation for next season. The season is over and no one has any idea whats going to happen next season. No need to put spoilers on that.

[ZB9]

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I think they have some setups for just in case. But, every season has always ended a chapter in Dexter's life. He always closes the case and then moves on to the next story.

I don't think it's a bad thing because I think it's best for this series. If they always knew how it would end then they would write toward that end and it would start getting redundant. A show like this needs to be chapters. Having said that...



This is the major arc of the show at this point. This is proof that the producers know that eventually the show has to end and they've laid the big setup for it to happen.

But, I don't think they know how they'll use it. And that's ok. They don't want to know because knowing would change the show.

I'm starting to doubt that because of the interview. I think they want to save that story arc for the final season because where do you go after Deb finds out Dexter is a serial killer.

I dont know. Ya'll are probably right. I agree it's good thing, because it keeps the show less predictable

[ZB9]

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Alright...I just re-watched the episode again and just wanted to catch the things I missed the first time. Seeing the Hall and Lithgow interview was pretty cool and giving their thoughts was intriguing.

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After watching the scene where Dexter kills Arthur, I had to pause and rewind the whole conversation because that had to be one of best conversations I've seen on this show. The fact that Arthur had already killed Rita and him thinking Dexter was out for revenge just shows how brilliant and smart the writers are. If you watch that scene, Arthur says along the line "you're picturing a heaven you're never see" and he was thinking Dexter was in denial that his wife was dead and trying to cope with it by killing him.

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you can notice when dexter says he has a family that arthur's demeanor changes and that he realizes that dexter isnt killing him for revenge of rita and that he doesnt know shes dead yet....very disturbing stuff

[Mo]

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Video chat with Lithgow on now, http://www.facebook.com/dexter?v=app_189630506587

[JayBee74]

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Disagree, how would him reporting Rita's death somehow expose him to Trinity's family recognizing him? If he was so worried about that then he didnt show it as he was standing in plain sight outside their house as they were being escorted by the police during the raid. He has to report it, I dont see anything else he can do.

The writers will have there work cut out for them. If Rita's death is reported as is it will be linked to Trinity, and Deb will remember seeing Dexter in Arthur's garage ahead of everybody else. She now knows that Dex is the Ice Truck Killer's brother. Add to that the knowledge that the family of Trinity knows Dex as Kyle Butler, and A Kyle Butler was brutally murdered shorter before Arthur's identity was discovered. Too much coincidence here not to arouse suspicion. I say Dex sets up a car explosion accident using Rita's body.

[ODogg]

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The Chef - because if he reports that crime he will be on TV as Dexter Morgan and Arthur's family will say, wait a second - that is not Dexter Morgan that is Kyle Butler! and they will know something is going on, go to the police with that and Dexter will have a whole lot of explaining to do.

Dexter standing outside in plain view when the family came out wasn't the same because the family might have seen him there and just assumed he was Kyle who just visited them, whereas the police just saw him there as Dexter, doing his job.

[garnettrules21]

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I never actually thought about if Dexter "covered up/altered" the way Rita's death is exposed. She was supposed to be in the keys so maybe he will play off that. Either way I think Quinn will be up Dexs *** big time trying to say Dex had something to do with it, seeing as he already things he was cheating on her.

[Tha_Kid]

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I think the first question, assuming Dexter reports Rita's death as-is, would be just where was he when it happened? He's unaccounted for from the raid on Arthur's house until whenever he reports her death.

I also really hope we don't have to see "single dad" dexter. Maybe with Harrison, but please ship off Rita's two kids. His closing monologue gave off the impression that he thinks it is best to distance himself from people.