Superman Man Of Steel

[Chrisksaint]

Re: Superman Man Of Steel

I like it cause I was very skeptical where this movie was going storyline wise when it was announced, but now I'm intrigued a lot.

[Sinner]

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I have a feeling that it will mostly be Superman and Batman through out the movie, with maybe Batman introducing Supes to Flash and Wonder Women toward the end as a way of setting up the Justice League movie. Maybe even having a little of Flash and Wonder Women early also talking about this new Super hero with Batman and him saying i'll go introduce myself and the movie takes off from there.

[Stormyhog]

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Batman vs Superman has been pushed back to May 6, 2016. http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit.../news/?a=93102

[BlueNGold]

Re: Superman Man Of Steel

Batman vs Superman has been pushed back to May 6, 2016. http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit.../news/?a=93102

On one hand that's disappointing because I was looking forward to seeing this even with all of the doubts surrounding it. On the other hand I think it's good and the right move to make.

After the Wonder Woman casting it started to sound like the movie was becoming more than just Batman and Superman. Plus I hope this gives them the proper amount of time to get this right. DC/WB can't really afford to miss here if they want to start developing a movie universe the way Marvel has.

[Stormyhog]

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On one hand that's disappointing because I was looking forward to seeing this even with all of the doubts surrounding it. On the other hand I think it's good and the right move to make.

After the Wonder Woman casting it started to sound like the movie was becoming more than just Batman and Superman. Plus I hope this gives them the proper amount of time to get this right. DC/WB can't really afford to miss here if they want to start developing a movie universe the way Marvel has.

Yeah I agree with you as much as I want it to come out a delay is never a bad thing. Gives them more time to mull things over and make tweaks if need be.

[Zer0xray]

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I think it's pushed back because they don't know what the heck they are doing. It seems that Snyder wanted to make a man of steel 2 but WB wants to make it bigger to compete with avengers

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[Seymour Scagnetti]

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I'm not understanding this Justice league movie. You have to set it up like Marvel did with the stand alone movies. If MoS is the only "set up" movie (which I thought was pretty dull and the 3rd act was a complete mess) then there is absolutely no character development for any of the other superheroes.

They would have to make the movie 4 hours long for proper character development. I don't even know how they could possibly introduce the other superheroes into the movie and making the audience connect with them in the same movie. I can't even think of a way that this movie can avoid being an epic disaster.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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I'd rather them not do it the way Marvel did. I don't have faith they'll get it right in BvS, but there are ways to have all the characters together and "introduced" without having to mine 10 movies before hand.

[Blzer]

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I'd rather them not do it the way Marvel did. I don't have faith they'll get it right in BvS, but there are ways to have all the characters together and "introduced" without having to mine 10 movies before hand.

While that may be true, does it work better for them to part their separate ways with standalone films afterward? As much as I like Iron Man 3 (and didn't see Thor 2), any reasons behind the Avengers not being anywhere nearby during the entire story were pretty lame altogether.

I just think it's easier to introduce first then merge second, that's all. At least, this is assuming standalone movies will take place at some point.

[Money99]

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While that may be true, does it work better for them to part their separate ways with standalone films afterward? As much as I like Iron Man 3 (and didn't see Thor 2), any reasons behind the Avengers not being anywhere nearby during the entire story were pretty lame altogether.

I just think it's easier to introduce first then merge second, that's all. At least, this is assuming standalone movies will take place at some point.

I agree, but I think it really depends on the characters and if they're strong enough or popular enough to carry their own film.

Marvel did a great job with Iron Man. I wasn't sure that'd be a good character to base a whole trilogy off of, but Stark is a great character and Downey played him to perfection.

With DC, I wonder if characters like The Martian Manhunter deserve their own vehicle?
It would have to be great writing and great acting.
People know Spiderman and Superman and Batman, but once you start hitting 2nd and 3rd tier characters then it becomes a crap shoot.
To be honest, while I liked Thor, he's not a hero I need to see have his own film. Same with guys like Flash or Green Lantern (which I think was done really poorly).

I really wish DC would have just done a stand-alone MoS 2 and then had a separate JL movie.
It sounds like MoS2 is being re-written, or re-worked and it's probably because adding all those characters got to be a giant cluster-bleep.
It sounds like a mess.

I think DC has the better universe for hero's. But they're going out of their way to screw it up.
Marvel has done a much better job thus far. But even now, with 'Antman" coming out, I think they're starting to press their luck.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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While that may be true, does it work better for them to part their separate ways with standalone films afterward? As much as I like Iron Man 3 (and didn't see Thor 2), any reasons behind the Avengers not being anywhere nearby during the entire story were pretty lame altogether.

I just think it's easier to introduce first then merge second, that's all. At least, this is assuming standalone movies will take place at some point.

Aren't you going to run into that problem with either approach? And how is that different than how it is in the comics anyway?


I'm hoping this doesn't turn into the JLA movie, but simply establishes Batman and Superman's relationship while also bringing in other "heroes" to round things out. I don't think you need to have standalone films to establish a roster of characters. The movie should be self-contained enough to have these characters stand up on their own within the film.

[Blzer]

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Aren't you going to run into that problem with either approach? And how is that different than how it is in the comics anyway?


I'm hoping this doesn't turn into the JLA movie, but simply establishes Batman and Superman's relationship while also bringing in other "heroes" to round things out. I don't think you need to have standalone films to establish a roster of characters. The movie should be self-contained enough to have these characters stand up on their own within the film.

Sorry, let me clarify that I thought we were only looking at two options:

1) Make several standalone films and then make a JLA movie with these characters.
2) Make a JLA movie then make several standalone films based on those characters.

I don't think that any characters need a background story (as you said). However, if all of them were to have standalone films, I think it would be a lot less messy if they had them before the fact rather than after. That's all I was saying. If we had options #3...

3) Make a movie with DC characters (Batman and Superman included), zero promises on any followup standalone films.

... then I think we can all be in agreement that this would be just fine.

Although, I'm still not fanatical about the idea altogether. I still probably just find it to be too close to Nolan's Batman trilogy. This is why I don't mind the release date being pushed back.

[daflyboys]

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I think DC has the better universe for hero's. But they're going out of their way to screw it up.
Marvel has done a much better job thus far. But even now, with 'Antman" coming out, I think they're starting to press their luck.

Agreed. I saw the leaked (?) trailer and it just had no appeal. They would be better off putting some effort into developing The Inhumans.

Sorry for the side bar. I'm not much of a DC guy. I guess if I wanted to see another quality DC movie, I'd like to see the Green Arrow.

[Chrisksaint]

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I would think that DC would be blowing away Marvel given the popularity and deep pool of their heroes. But it seems Marvel has done a good job telling each story making them more known.

While I have enjoyed MoS and the oter Batmans a ton I hope they pushed it back to get everything in order. Cause it went quickly from cool another MoS to batman/superman eh we'll see, and now at wtf is going on.

I'd love a Green Arrow movie especially if they got the current TV guy for it. Hawkeye was just more of there in Avengers and didn't seem to interest me much like he maybe could have.

[ubernoob]

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I think it's the other way around, personally.

DC is really top heavy (before the movie boom I'd say Batman and Superman were bigger than almost anything Marvel.)

Then you had Wonder Woman who was pretty much the sole member on Tier 2, and then Tier 3 inhabited by guys like The Flash and Green Lantern.

As for Marvel I don't know if they've ever had a first tier Hero outside Spider Man. Wolverine perhaps?

Marvels middle tiers are much more robust as you see most of the XMen, Iron Man, Hulk, Captain America, Thor, Deadpool and Thing.

Marvel is deeper to me, but then again the "most popular" heroes (Supes, Spidey, Captain America) I've never enjoyed so that hurts DCs standing in my eyes a bit.