LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

[PhilliesFan13]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Yeah, like I said, he seemed knowledgeable when he was actually talking (not as in he sounded smart, but he knew what he was talking about), but his time spent here and the settings made didn't reflect that at all.

So, would you recommend others get this done from Best Buy or no?

I've also heard about Chad B. Guy must get a lot of frequent flyer miles. I saw his website says he does Delaware, so I'm assuming he could come by Philly too. Might have to look into that.

[Rasco11]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Epsons are solid. The 2 biggest things with projectors are placement and room treatment (the darker the better). Is your friend projecting on a screen or painted wall?

Bulb life (and cost) is the one downside that comes with the territory. Some people get the expected life span of the bulb and some get a couple days past the warranty. Just luck of the draw really.

Thanks for the opinions GC! Yes, my buddy projected on a wall in my apartment that i'll use. Lots of space, it's perfect. It is light beige (not optimal white), but the room darkness is good!. I may get a screen eventually, but I thought it looked terrific just on the wall As was. From my research, it sounds like the Epsons are as good as it gets in the $1,000 range. You get a 2yr warranty (including bulbs), so that may be good enough. Maybe bulbs are cheaper in 2yrs anyways?

My buddy had gotten his through work as well, primarily for presentations. It is 1080p, but a step below the Epson, I think. We watched youtube vids & Superbowl on it last year on a huge wall and that was amazing, but gaming with it just trumped that!

[Blzer]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

So, would you recommend others get this done from Best Buy or no?

I've also heard about Chad B. Guy must get a lot of frequent flyer miles. I saw his website says he does Delaware, so I'm assuming he could come by Philly too. Might have to look into that.

The problem is that I can't confirm on any technical level whether my television has better accuracy than it previously had, not just with color but with everything else as well.

If it's free? There is no downside. If you don't like it, keep your previous settings written down somewhere and just put them back in. In fact, I still have my previous settings in Movie mode, because these new settings are in CAL-DAY and CAL-NIGHT. Personally, the whites are much purer with this Geek Squad guy's settings, but I feel like there's a bit of a green tint shade pulled over my screen. Probably just because it's something I'm not used to, but I still have no idea either way.

At the same time, I feel like next year I want to give Chad B. a call, just so I can ensure not only accuracy, but precision. I'm sure he could educate me a bit more on everything that goes on with his tweaks.

At any rate, I'm "satisfied," but feel like I could find myself more satisfied. The fact that this was free meant it was no harm on my end, so I really could only recommend this to Premier Silver members. If you want to pay for calibration, you might as well go all in. Assurance is much more valuable than belief of assurance.

[GAMEC0CK2002]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Thanks for the opinions GC! Yes, my buddy projected on a wall in my apartment that i'll use. Lots of space, it's perfect. It is light beige (not optimal white), but the room darkness is good!. I may get a screen eventually, but I thought it looked terrific just on the wall As was. From my research, it sounds like the Epsons are as good as it gets in the $1,000 range. You get a 2yr warranty (including bulbs), so that may be good enough. Maybe bulbs are cheaper in 2yrs anyways?

My buddy had gotten his through work as well, primarily for presentations. It is 1080p, but a step below the Epson, I think. We watched youtube vids & Superbowl on it last year on a huge wall and that was amazing, but gaming with it just trumped that!

Yeah, most PJ bulbs are rated at 4000 hrs in eco-mode which is 800 days (2.2 years) if used non-stop 5hrs a day. A lot of people are going with a 42" - 55" tv for normal viewing and have a drop or pull down PJ screen for movies to save on bulb life and not always needing the room dark. I'll probably do something similar to this when I buy a house (would put the tv on a stand though):

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[Blzer]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Well, looking at Chad's website, it appears he doesn't even come into California. He's over by EG's territory. Shame.

[shogunofharlem3]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

My brother in law is looking to upgrade his 50 inch rear projection LCD monster as his bulbs have dimmed again.

We've been doing research and he found a Panasonic Plasma 50 inch he really liked but it is has a refresh rate of 60. My 2 tv's at my house (6 years old) are 60 and look great but do get some motion blur.

I steered him away from the 60 but after reading many articles, people say the refresh rate isn't a big deal.

Should he get the 60 off his list at look at 120 and up, or is 60 good. He games and watches Blu Ray and netflix.....he is currently boycotting Comcast/Xfininty and cancelled his service.

Any advice is great advice. Thanks in advance

[Blzer]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

My brother in law is looking to upgrade his 50 inch rear projection LCD monster as his bulbs have dimmed again.

We've been doing research and he found a Panasonic Plasma 50 inch he really liked but it is has a refresh rate of 60. My 2 tv's at my house (6 years old) are 60 and look great but do get some motion blur.

I steered him away from the 60 but after reading many articles, people say the refresh rate isn't a big deal.

Should he get the 60 off his list at look at 120 and up, or is 60 good. He games and watches Blu Ray and netflix.....he is currently boycotting Comcast/Xfininty and cancelled his service.

Any advice is great advice. Thanks in advance

Games can benefit off it sometimes, but it causes input lag. Films give it a soap opera effect, and I'd prefer leaving it off for that. The only real benefit comes with sports broadcasts, IMO.

Others may feel differently about all of this, of course.

[authentic]

My brother in law is looking to upgrade his 50 inch rear projection LCD monster as his bulbs have dimmed again.

We've been doing research and he found a Panasonic Plasma 50 inch he really liked but it is has a refresh rate of 60. My 2 tv's at my house (6 years old) are 60 and look great but do get some motion blur.

I steered him away from the 60 but after reading many articles, people say the refresh rate isn't a big deal.

Should he get the 60 off his list at look at 120 and up, or is 60 good. He games and watches Blu Ray and netflix.....he is currently boycotting Comcast/Xfininty and cancelled his service.

Any advice is great advice. Thanks in advance

Plasmas are all 600hz....a 60hz plasma would be awful, like a 60hz LCD is awful.


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[Blzer]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Plasmas are all 600hz....a 60hz plasma would be awful, like a 60hz LCD is awful.

Your post is misleading.

I didn't realize his post was about a plasma, not another LCD. I looked for that information, but must have skipped over it.

The refresh rate for all plasma screens are 60 Hz. Don't let anyone fool you into thinking otherwise. The 600 Hz is a different measure that is only partly associated with its refresh rate, along with another product of the number of subfields (ten) per refresh. It is not 600 Hz as LCD's have 240 Hz refresh rates. Again, different measurements entirely.

So toshogunofharlem3, I'm sorry that I misled you earlier. Yes, a 50-inch plasma at a 60 Hz refresh rate is most appropriate.

[authentic]

Your post is misleading.

I didn't realize his post was about a plasma, not another LCD. I looked for that information, but must have skipped over it.

The refresh rate for all plasma screens are 60 Hz. Don't let anyone fool you into thinking otherwise. The 600 Hz is a different measure that is only partly associated with its refresh rate, along with another product of the number of subfields (ten) per refresh. It is not 600 Hz as LCD's have 240 Hz refresh rates. Again, different measurements entirely.

So toshogunofharlem3, I'm sorry that I misled you earlier. Yes, a 50-inch plasma at a 60 Hz refresh rate is most appropriate.

Yes, but they process 10x the speed of LED TVs. The refresh rate is listed as 600hz because after the calculations, a plasma is technically running at 600hz.


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[wrestlinggod1]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Sorry for bugging you guys again, but I seen this TV and I'm thinking of picking it up. Is it a nice buy?

http://www.walmart.com/ip/VIZIO-42-LCD-1080p-120Hz-HDTV-E422VL/17208313

[authentic]

Sorry for bugging you guys again, but I seen this TV and I'm thinking of picking it up. Is it a nice buy?

http://www.walmart.com/ip/VIZIO-42-L...422VL/17208313

Eh, Vizio is ok. They make a good product. If its for gaming I would try find some specs on what the input lag is.


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[wrestlinggod1]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Eh, Vizio is ok. They make a good product. If its for gaming I would try find some specs on what the input lag is.


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Well it would be for mostly gaming and watching sports. What exactly is input lag?

[Blzer]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Well it would be for mostly gaming and watching sports. What exactly is input lag?

Input lag = the differential response time of when your input is displayed on your television screen.

Here's an example I just looked up, with a standard tube on the left and an LCD on the right:

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If you play timing-imperative games, this small amount of delay is very crucial. I've had a 23" Samsung LCD for years, and have just learned to live with the input lag. Once I got my 59" Samsung plasma, the heavens opened up. The extra 10 - 30 ms of response time gained from not having an LCD (especially a Vizio) is something to consider when it comes to making a purchase.

[Blzer]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Yes, but they process 10x the speed of LED TVs. The refresh rate is listed as 600hz because after the calculations, a plasma is technically running at 600hz.


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Okay. My only point was that I didn't want the guy to think he's getting a faster framerate. However, it does handle motion much better, encapsulating each frame with extreme... awesomeness?

Plasma is the way to go if you can bear with certain room lighting conditions, the heat coming off the screen, and the unwanted topic discussion of burn-in/IR.