LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

[EnigmaNemesis]

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I couldnt possibly disagree more. Saying that a plasma is still very susceptible to burn in based on a guy leaving a static image on the screen for 2 hours is crazy. If someone is going to leave a static image on screen for that long then its their own fault, hell when I had a CRT I would turn the TV off if I knew I was going to leave a static image on for more then 10 minutes. Making this comparison is like taking the most severe case and trying to act like burn in is still a big problem with plasma televisions when thats not the case.

All I am saying, is, it may not be as bad as the past, but it still is no cake walk compared to LCDs or CRTs.

You can leave your LCD computer monitor on all day, with a static desktop image, and not have a burn in risk to that of a Plasma is all I am saying (it can burn in eventually, but it is still night and day in risk). I would never do that... my monitors all go into sleep after 10 minutes to conserve them and save power.

That is why my Dell 2405 is still as bright and crisp as the day I got it 4 years ago. Proper maintenance. Never have the brightness setting above 55.

I am not knocking Plasmas at all. I am leaning towards buying one very strongly. But it is still something to look out for if not too cautious compared to the other products.

[CaptainZombie]

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CZ, If you do go PLASMA, make sure you break it in (100 hours with minimal settings) & try your best to not let static images sit for long periods of time. I also would suggest maybe going SAMSUNG. I know Panasonic may offer a better TV, but it's been confirmed that the Black Levels will rise after time.(making them look greyish)

Also don't be put of by the LG Brand name. They are not far behind both Panny & Samsung in term of making a good TV

Is that the "rising blacks" phenomenon I've been reading about? Do other companies plasmas do this?

Are "rising blacks" worse in the Panasonic G20/25 than if you were to get a Sammy Plasma? I'm still doing some research here on these TV's. A guy I work with might buy the DLP and stand from me for $400. He is going to think it through over the weekend.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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Are "rising blacks" worse in the Panasonic G20/25 than if you were to get a Sammy Plasma? I'm still doing some research here on these TV's. A guy I work with might buy the DLP and stand from me for $400. He is going to think it through over the weekend.

Here is a Sammy review...

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/samsung-pn50c8000/4505-6482_7-34005777.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody

Cnet is pretty good for just getting general information. They get too anal sometimes for picture quality, because they can knock a TV that I was just in a store and "floored by" how good it looked, yet there was a nuance or two they pick out because it is not pinnacle. They go a little too far for the videophiles. And some of their reviews for the more affordable sets that the average person would think looks marvelous, would make said person discouraged into buying.

But for the technical part to know the major faults of a set, like the blacks getting lighter over time on the Pannys, it is good to read.

The only issue it had with the Sammy was 1080p/24 the blacks were not as dark. But other than that they said it had one of the highest picture qualities tested this year in both 2D and 3D modes. But some of the user reviews claim terrible burn in, which I noticed on my friends Samsung, it seemed pretty susceptible.

Just take caution with what you have displayed on it and you should be fine.

[Skyboxer]

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Yeah, I am heavily leaning towards a Plasma. I really want a Sony LED, but the prices on some of those 3D Samsung Plasmas are very enticing. And LG is coming around with some nice ones as well.

Yep Looks like I may be going with the 50" or 55" Samsung 3D plasma... I still have about 3 weeks to decide though.

[CaptainZombie]

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Here is a Sammy review...

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/samsung-pn50c8000/4505-6482_7-34005777.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody

Cnet is pretty good for just getting general information. They get too anal sometimes for picture quality, because they can knock a TV that I was just in a store and "floored by" how good it looked, yet there was a nuance or two they pick out because it is not pinnacle. They go a little too far for the videophiles. And some of their reviews for the more affordable sets that the average person would think looks marvelous, would make said person discouraged into buying.

But for the technical part to know the major faults of a set, like the blacks getting lighter over time on the Pannys, it is good to read.

The only issue it had with the Sammy was 1080p/24 the blacks were not as dark. But other than that they said it had one of the highest picture qualities tested this year in both 2D and 3D modes. But some of the user reviews claim terrible burn in, which I noticed on my friends Samsung, it seemed pretty susceptible.

Just take caution with what you have displayed on it and you should be fine.

Thanks. Looks like Sears is selling the G20 for $989.....damn are the prices of these TV's on some crazy sales. I was on AVS and was reading an article that there is an abundance of LCD's in the market right now and the best time to buy is by the end of the year if you are looking since the prices will be very low.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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Thanks. Looks like Sears is selling the G20 for $989.....damn are the prices of these TV's on some crazy sales. I was on AVS and was reading an article that there is an abundance of LCD's in the market right now and the best time to buy is by the end of the year if you are looking since the prices will be very low.

Amazon right now is selling a 42" G25 with a free soundbar/subwoofer for $799.

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VIER...9591438&sr=8-5

[CaptainZombie]

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Amazon right now is selling a 42" G25 with a free soundbar/subwoofer for $799.

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VIER...9591438&sr=8-5

WOW! I can only imagine the closer it gets to Christmas on how cheap some of these will get. I'm still trying to decide Plasma or LCD, with leaning more towards LCD. I have to go this weekend and look at some more. It helps reading up more on the 3 technologies to better understand pro's and con's. What I love about the DLP I would be losing some in the LCD and gaining in the Plasma, but the Plasma needs to be really treated like a baby. Some interesting things on the LED-LCD about the Edge lit LCD's where there are some drawbacks. LOL! Too much of this reading will make you go crazy.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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WOW! I can only imagine the closer it gets to Christmas on how cheap some of these will get. I'm still trying to decide Plasma or LCD, with leaning more towards LCD. I have to go this weekend and look at some more. It helps reading up more on the 3 technologies to better understand pro's and con's. What I love about the DLP I would be losing some in the LCD and gaining in the Plasma, but the Plasma needs to be really treated like a baby. Some interesting things on the LED-LCD about the Edge lit LCD's where there are some drawbacks. LOL! Too much of this reading will make you go crazy.

Agreed. I read too much too, which is why after 2 years, I still have not pulled the trigger, almost did n an XBR9. Games look fantastic on my Dell 2405 anyhow in the mean time.

But the best thing to do, is just go in the store, and look at what you think you like the best visually. And not worry to much about the technical mumbo jumbo too much. Some of the LED Sony's these videophile catered sites trash, I fell in love with. And did not see any of the "microscope analyzing it seems" they put in reviews.

Pull the trigger, bring it home, you then have nothing to compare it to in your own house, so it will please you when looking at it.

[tktnuri]

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I am now leaning towards LCD or LED LCD. The technology for LCD has got a lot better since Plasma first hit the scene. Contrast ratio's or similar and picture quality is now almost identical. Where I tend to lean towards LCD instead of Plasma is the weight factor. Can I move this monster by myself or will I need help? Do I want to take a risk and mount something this heavy onto my wall? With almost 30-75 pounds in weight difference from LCD and Plasma for comparable size models I now lean towards LCD. They are lighter have a longer life and provide a superb picture. Cost isn't quite a factor anymore either.

I own Plasma, DLP, and LCD.

DLP lighter than plasma cost less but you have to buy a bulb. Had to replace my Samsung bulb at about the 3.5 year mark normally $180 a pop found online for $90.

Plasma is LG had some burn in but had a white wash tool to help get it back to normal after it was just a faint image I then set it to a picture setting that change the pixel positioning every few seconds. Couldn't tell why watching it and didn't have any burn in issues after that.

Newest TV is the LG LCD 120mhz http://www.frys.com/search?search_ty...bmit.y=0&cat=0 its the budget line but was $200 cheaper than the comparable Plasma. I got it for $524+tax locally and it was brand new not a display model. Very light not as light as DLP but lighter than Plasma. Excellent picture and very vibrant even on stock settings. Its only a 47" but I used for gaming in the spare bedroom.

I didn't go with Plasma because once it dies out its done no bulb to replace or repair to get it working again.

[GAMEC0CK2002]

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Without the box (or handles) 42"-50" of anything is going to be hard to carry for 1 person. I certainly wouldn't use that as a qualifier on buying a tv. Wall mounts work equally well on either flat panel.

Life of plasmas and LCDs is nearly identical. We'd be on to the next big thing before either "died" out.

[Kashanova]

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thank god someone made this thread i was thinking the same thing, i might go lcd just because i don't want to be maintaining the tv and counting up to 100 hours, but then again at that price and the picture quality i might bite. I noticed someone mentioned the 600hz from plasma in relation to the 120 hz from lcd and their different technologies, Plasma has basically no motion blur due to the response time being nearly instantaneous something to the tune of 0.0001ms meanwhile lcd response times are usually in the number of 2-6ms

[GAMEC0CK2002]

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thank god someone made this thread i was thinking the same thing, i might go lcd just because i don't want to be maintaining the tv and counting up to 100 hours, but then again at that price and the picture quality i might bite. I noticed someone mentioned the 600hz from plasma in relation to the 120 hz from lcd and their different technologies, Plasma has basically no motion blur due to the response time being nearly instantaneous something to the tune of 0.0001ms meanwhile lcd response times are usually in the number of 2-6ms

I'll help just a bit. "Maintaining" is not that involved--just common sense. Lower the contrast once and make sure your tv shows/movies take up the entire screen. That's about it.

You're right on why plasma's have no motion blur. The plasma phosphors change nearly instantly. Makes it great for watching sports, races, etc.

[Pielet]

Bought a panny 58v10 last year and love it. Very little image retention issues and the picture is wonderful. I also recommend bias lighting and watching / playing in the dark if possible. A nice bias light can be bought for under $50.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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This thread gets made every 3 months I noticed.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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Oh yeah I will like to add LED TVs are over rated and useless IF you don't have it hooked up to a home theatre system. The speakers on LED TV's are so small you can't even hear the tv from 10 feet away.

But it is all personal preference and how much space you have. If you have a large living room like I do, DLP all the way. If it is in the basement or other dark room, Plasma. If you want to plug it in and not worry about anything, LCD.

LCD prices have come wayyyyyyyyyyy down since last year, they not that pricey anymore.