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  • Blzer
    Resident film pundit
    • Mar 2004
    • 42515

    #166
    Re: Plasma or LCD?

    Originally posted by CaptainZombie
    I like the TV the few hours that I've had it and need to adjust the settings..........but, how do you guys like the 120hz option? I am trying to get used to the whole (soap opera effect)......really miss the film like image.
    Only use it for sports, video games, and sports video games. Movies (including animated ones) deserve the natural "film mode" treatment, as well as every show on television.
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    • CaptainZombie
      Brains
      • Jul 2003
      • 37851

      #167
      Re: Plasma or LCD?

      Originally posted by Blzer
      Only use it for sports, video games, and sports video games. Movies (including animated ones) deserve the natural "film mode" treatment, as well as every show on television.
      If I turn it off for movies and television shows, won't those then have the blur/motion issues?
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      • Blzer
        Resident film pundit
        • Mar 2004
        • 42515

        #168
        Re: Plasma or LCD?

        Originally posted by CaptainZombie
        If I turn it off for movies and television shows, won't those then have the blur/motion issues?
        Which issues are those? You mean when using 60 Hz? Does the TV suffer from ghosting or something?
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        • CaptainZombie
          Brains
          • Jul 2003
          • 37851

          #169
          Re: Plasma or LCD?

          Originally posted by Blzer
          Which issues are those? You mean when using 60 Hz? Does the TV suffer from ghosting or something?
          I wouldn't say ghosting, just you can tell the frames are missing after going back and forth between 60 and 120hz.
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          • Blzer
            Resident film pundit
            • Mar 2004
            • 42515

            #170
            Re: Plasma or LCD?

            Originally posted by CaptainZombie
            I wouldn't say ghosting, just you can tell the frames are missing after going back and forth between 60 and 120hz.
            Of course you can, but that's how films are shot anyway. It hasn't been an issue for half a century, it sure as hell won't be now.

            I suppose it's just a "pick your poison" kind of thing. Watching 120 Hz or 240 Hz for movies or shows is just "too fast" for me, especially when camera panning is involved. I'm not really sure how they will ever be able to correct it with LCD's, but plasmas seem to get it right with their ultra high 600 Hz panels (without the annoying motion sickness).

            I say stick with my suggestions, but it's really up to you.
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            • Gotmadskillzson
              Live your life
              • Apr 2008
              • 23429

              #171
              Re: Plasma or LCD?

              Yeah eventually your eyes will either adjust to the 120HZ or it won't. 60hz is fine for regular tv shows and movies. I mean when you think about it.......as a kid growing up wasn't 60hz just fine for your cartoons and favorite tv shows ? LOL

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              • CaptainZombie
                Brains
                • Jul 2003
                • 37851

                #172
                Re: Plasma or LCD?

                Originally posted by Blzer
                Of course you can, but that's how films are shot anyway. It hasn't been an issue for half a century, it sure as hell won't be now.

                I suppose it's just a "pick your poison" kind of thing. Watching 120 Hz or 240 Hz for movies or shows is just "too fast" for me, especially when camera panning is involved. I'm not really sure how they will ever be able to correct it with LCD's, but plasmas seem to get it right with their ultra high 600 Hz panels (without the annoying motion sickness).

                I say stick with my suggestions, but it's really up to you.
                I am going to play around with it some more and see what I like better. If it weren't for the light conditions in the living room and my fear with IR/Burn-in I'd be all over a plasma.
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                • Gotmadskillzson
                  Live your life
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 23429

                  #173
                  Re: Plasma or LCD?

                  Well you just got the tv today right ? I say give it until Monday. By then you would have learned more about the options and what works with certain tv shows and what doesn't. too much to learn in a few hours.

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                  • CaptainZombie
                    Brains
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 37851

                    #174
                    Re: Plasma or LCD?

                    Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                    Well you just got the tv today right ? I say give it until Monday. By then you would have learned more about the options and what works with certain tv shows and what doesn't. too much to learn in a few hours.
                    I agree. I'm going to give this a bit of time before full judgment, this was just my initial thoughts. I need to look on AVS for base settings.
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                    • bigfnjoe96
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 11410

                      #175
                      Re: Plasma or LCD?

                      Congrats Captain. What model # do you have? EDIT: saw your link. Also the TV you have is a BB Exclusive
                      Last edited by bigfnjoe96; 11-25-2010, 12:49 AM.

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                      • GAMEC0CK2002
                        Stayin Alive
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 10384

                        #176
                        Re: Plasma or LCD?

                        Originally posted by CaptainZombie
                        I wouldn't say ghosting, just you can tell the frames are missing after going back and forth between 60 and 120hz.
                        Those are added frames where the tv makes an educated guess on what should be put in based on the previous and next frame. As suggested, I'd turn it off for movies and regular tv. Just use it for sports and video games.

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                        • bigfnjoe96
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 11410

                          #177
                          Re: Plasma or LCD?

                          Originally posted by GAMEC0CK2002
                          Those are added frames where the tv makes an educated guess on what should be put in based on the previous and next frame. As suggested, I'd turn it off for movies and regular tv. Just use it for sports and video games.
                          I'd probably turn-it OFF for gaming also. I also would use GAME MODE for Gaming

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                          • GAMEC0CK2002
                            Stayin Alive
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 10384

                            #178
                            Re: Plasma or LCD?

                            Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
                            I'd probably turn-it OFF for gaming also. I also would use GAME MODE for Gaming
                            Good call.


                            I would have bought a plasma and some darkening curtains. problem solved.

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                            • RoyalBoyle78
                              Aka."Footballforever"
                              • May 2003
                              • 23918

                              #179
                              Re: Plasma or LCD?

                              Originally posted by GAMEC0CK2002
                              Good call.


                              I would have bought a plasma and some darkening curtains. problem solved.
                              Agreed, the fear of burning is not a problem like some think, heck I was scared with mine but that fear went away real fast. Buyers shouldn't let the ir/burn part hold you back, because it's really just psyching you out of a great set.
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                              • CaptainZombie
                                Brains
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 37851

                                #180
                                Re: Plasma or LCD?

                                Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
                                Congrats Captain. What model # do you have? EDIT: saw your link. Also the TV you have is a BB Exclusive
                                Yeah, it's a BB exclusive. Is that ever a good or bad thing when they have these exclusive sets?

                                Originally posted by GAMEC0CK2002
                                Those are added frames where the tv makes an educated guess on what should be put in based on the previous and next frame. As suggested, I'd turn it off for movies and regular tv. Just use it for sports and video games.
                                Thanks, I turned it off and tweaked some of the settings tonight. This is the part I hate, tweaking, tweaking, and tweaking till I get it right. LOL!

                                Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
                                I'd probably turn-it OFF for gaming also. I also would use GAME MODE for Gaming
                                Originally posted by GAMEC0CK2002
                                Good call.


                                I would have bought a plasma and some darkening curtains. problem solved.
                                I'm using Game mode and did turn off TrueMotion.

                                With the plasma, it was one thing my wife was hoping I wouldn't get since she loves to keep all curtains open all day. The sun would cause for some bad glare.
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