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  • Scott
    Your Go-to TV Expert
    • Jul 2002
    • 20030

    #6451
    Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

    Originally posted by kwebbvols4423
    Scott, you still at Bestbuy? Do you think the LG C8 will be on sale during Black Friday?
    Possibly, it's really hard to say..Your best bet is to buy the week before Black Friday, prices always go back up for Black Friday, since Black Friday is mainly for cheap tvs..
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    • kwebbvols4423
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      • Jul 2011
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      #6452
      Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

      Thanks guys.
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      • RockinDaMike
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        • Feb 2003
        • 9091

        #6453
        Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

        Wow the c8 is amazing. I really don’t have anything to compare it too but I’m in tv heaven right now.

        Any movie you guys recommend to show off the new OLED? I’m thinking Ready Player One is a good start


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        • Scott
          Your Go-to TV Expert
          • Jul 2002
          • 20030

          #6454
          Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

          Originally posted by RockinDaMike
          Wow the c8 is amazing. I really don’t have anything to compare it too but I’m in tv heaven right now.

          Any movie you guys recommend to show off the new OLED? I’m thinking Ready Player One is a good start


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          Find one with Dolby Vision like Ready Player One, A Quiet Place, Black Panther or The Last Jedi..


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          • Artman22
            MVP
            • Jul 2006
            • 4984

            #6455
            Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

            Originally posted by Freakalth
            OLED over LCD all day any day. Though QLED is another thing entirely. Wish I had the money for that.


            Always! OLED over anything else. QLED is just Quantum dot LCD. Still the same LCD limitations.


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            • XxGamerXx
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              • Jul 2018
              • 1029

              #6456
              Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

              Originally posted by Artman22
              Always! OLED over anything else. QLED is just Quantum dot LCD. Still the same LCD limitations.


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              That is a blanket statement without knowing the truth.

              QLED is not just LCD....There are different types of LCD's/ FALD is the top 2 QLED models and they are not the same as LCD

              Yes OLED is the best picture but it has serious limitations as well. No tv is perfect and for gaming OLED is not in the same field as QLED FALD

              QLED offers the following

              Free Sync (xbox owners)
              Game Motion Plus ( allows PRO and X owners to interpolate 30fps games to look 60fps by doubling the FPS. Same for 60fps games can be interpolated to 120fpz

              Superior brightness which makes all games look fantastic and not select games look like trash due to the injected nit level of games.

              Also the dynamic tone mapping on the QLED FALD tops the C8 tone mapping for HDR gaming.

              The input lag is lower and did I mention all resolutions are supported for PC and X owners. If someone wants to do 1080p on their x they can do it with native 120hz

              You ask if no games are over 60fps? Yes that is fact but 120hz native from console makes 30fps or 60fps games at 1080p or 1440p on the pc and X to have no judder unlike all other tvs not QLED

              Upscaling is superior on the QLED over the OLED

              If you game a ton on your tv the QLED is the best tv for that purpose

              For everything else OLED is superior

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              • XxGamerXx
                MVP
                • Jul 2018
                • 1029

                #6457
                Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

                Those that play just on the PRO the QLED and NU8000 models of at least 55 inches or more have these awesome gaming features

                Go put God of War on performance 60fps mode and turn on game motion plus and max out both the dejudder and blur reduction to 10 and that will interpolate the 60fps to 120fps and it feels so smooth with the combination of a native 120hz panel and now feeding it game motion plus. U will not regret it

                going from a 30fps game to 60fps requires the dejudder to be maxed to 10 but the blur reduction lowered to 0 and that interpolates the 30fps games to 60fps

                but this will cause some artifacts when panning the camera, it will look great but the 60fps game to 120hz is where it shines the best

                and the input lag is 20ms for interolating from 30fps to 60fps and 26ms when doing it from 30fps to 60fps

                Truly great for PRO owners and X owners

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                • Artman22
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 4984

                  #6458
                  Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

                  Originally posted by XxGamerXx
                  That is a blanket statement without knowing the truth.



                  QLED is not just LCD....There are different types of LCD's/ FALD is the top 2 QLED models and they are not the same as LCD



                  Yes OLED is the best picture but it has serious limitations as well. No tv is perfect and for gaming OLED is not in the same field as QLED FALD



                  QLED offers the following



                  Free Sync (xbox owners)

                  Game Motion Plus ( allows PRO and X owners to interpolate 30fps games to look 60fps by doubling the FPS. Same for 60fps games can be interpolated to 120fpz



                  Superior brightness which makes all games look fantastic and not select games look like trash due to the injected nit level of games.



                  Also the dynamic tone mapping on the QLED FALD tops the C8 tone mapping for HDR gaming.



                  The input lag is lower and did I mention all resolutions are supported for PC and X owners. If someone wants to do 1080p on their x they can do it with native 120hz



                  You ask if no games are over 60fps? Yes that is fact but 120hz native from console makes 30fps or 60fps games at 1080p or 1440p on the pc and X to have no judder unlike all other tvs not QLED



                  Upscaling is superior on the QLED over the OLED



                  If you game a ton on your tv the QLED is the best tv for that purpose



                  For everything else OLED is superior




                  Blanket statements? I used CNET the site you referenced before as a source.

                  I know exactly what FALD and Edge lit is. Still LED ( Light-emitting diode). FALD is better than edgelit but will ALWAYS have blooming where OLED has zero. You mentioning gaming features like FreeSync, but like I said before overall picture quality goes to OLED. Like I said before, brightness is only one component to HDR.



                  Here’s the entire article is you want to read it for yourself.

                  It won't happen this year, but when Samsung figures out how to make quantum dot TVs without depending on decades-old LCD technology, watch out LG.



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                  • XxGamerXx
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                    • Jul 2018
                    • 1029

                    #6459
                    Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

                    Originally posted by Artman22


                    Blanket statements? I used CNET the site you referenced before as a source.

                    I know exactly what FALD and Edge lit is. Still LED ( Light-emitting diode). FALD is better than edgelit but will ALWAYS have blooming where OLED has zero. You mentioning gaming features like FreeSync, but like I said before overall picture quality goes to OLED. Like I said before, brightness is only one component to HDR.



                    Here’s the entire article is you want to read it for yourself.

                    It won't happen this year, but when Samsung figures out how to make quantum dot TVs without depending on decades-old LCD technology, watch out LG.



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                    Not sure what does the articles prove? I never said qled is same as oled. You said qled is just LCD with same limitations as LCD. That is false because qled offers LCD edge lit and fald. And the gaming features are unmatched by oled. Those are facts

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                    • Artman22
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                      • Jul 2006
                      • 4984

                      #6460
                      Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

                      Originally posted by RockinDaMike
                      Wow the c8 is amazing. I really don’t have anything to compare it too but I’m in tv heaven right now.

                      Any movie you guys recommend to show off the new OLED? I’m thinking Ready Player One is a good start


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                      I just watched sicario 2 on the Apple TV in 4k and Dolby vision and it looked amazing.


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                      NBA2K is the standard of sports games period.

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                      • Artman22
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                        • Jul 2006
                        • 4984

                        #6461
                        LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

                        Originally posted by XxGamerXx
                        Not sure what does the articles prove? I never said qled is same as oled. You said qled is just LCD with same limitations as LCD. That is false because qled offers LCD edge lit and fald. And the gaming features are unmatched by oled. Those are facts


                        Re-read what I said. I CLEARY said QLED is Quantum dot led with the same limitations as LCD. Edge lit and FALD are forms of backlights LCD/LED technology uses to get the picture on your screen and both have limitations. Please don’t act like you don’t know what I’m talking about. OLED has no backlight. Each pixel lights up its self. Oled has perfect blacks and contrast. YOU ask what does this article prove? It proves what I also said earlier that OLED IS better than QLED. I quoted CNET saying It too since you like CNET. Samsung QLED has FreeSync because they partnered with Microsoft so obviously they’re going to have game features on their tv. I’m still trying to see what I said was false. OVERALL picture quality OLED wins. The problem with 2017 and older OLEDS is their tone mapping. Micro-LED might be the future and better than OLED but that’s not available yet. QLED was just a marketing name Samsung chose to compete against OLED. That’s a fact.


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                        Last edited by Artman22; 10-06-2018, 01:46 AM.
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                        • XxGamerXx
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                          • Jul 2018
                          • 1029

                          #6462
                          Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

                          Originally posted by Artman22
                          Re-read what I said. I CLEARY said QLED is Quantum dot led with the same limitations as LCD. Edge lit and FALD are forms of backlights LCD/LED technology uses to get the picture on your screen and both have limitations. Please don’t act like you don’t know what I’m talking about. OLED has no backlight. Each pixel lights up its self. Oled has perfect blacks and contrast. YOU ask what does this article prove? It proves what I also said earlier that OLED IS better than QLED. I quoted CNET saying It too since you like CNET. Samsung QLED has FreeSync because they partnered with Microsoft so obviously they’re going to have game features on their tv. I’m still trying to see what I said was false. OVERALL picture quality OLED wins. The problem with 2017 and older OLEDS is their tone mapping. Micro-LED might be the future and better than OLED but that’s not available yet. QLED was just a marketing name Samsung chose to compete against OLED. That’s a fact.


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                          Once again, where did I say that OLED is not better than LCD or QLED? Please show me where I said that. You seem to be in your feelings about your panel when I have the same damm tv you have and the QLED.

                          I said for gaming the QLED is a better choice and that is FACT. Yea MS parntered with Samsung for free sync. So does that not make it valuable for gaming? And I stated for Sony PS4 PRO fans the auto motion gaming features on the QLED make gaming superior than OLED.

                          You are stuck on contrast and blacks. Yes that is fantastic for movie watching and tv watching. I love my OLED...But I rather game on the QLED for superior brightness, no image rention posibilities, better tone mapping, and superior gaming features for both x and pro.

                          Does that make OLED bad for gaming? Heck no it is an awesome gaming tech, but I prefer the QLED for the reason mention which gamers would agree
                          Last edited by XxGamerXx; 10-06-2018, 11:48 AM.

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                          • Hockeynut99
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                            • Jan 2013
                            • 1328

                            #6463
                            Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

                            Lol oh OS. Let the pissing match begin. Any way I decided to pull the trigger on the Sony 65 a9f Scott. And then also get the Sony sound bar for $1200. I liked the way it sounds at Best Buy. I was tempted to get the 77 Sony but that is too big for my wall spot. So I will go get it today and I am thinking of having it mounted. I don’t know if all Sony’s have that tilt back but I don’t know how I feel about that.

                            OLED vs QLED = LED VS PLASMA.

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                            • p_rushing
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                              • Feb 2004
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                              #6464
                              Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

                              Originally posted by Hockeynut99
                              OLED vs QLED = LED VS PLASMA.
                              Yep but until they can get 75" or larger price down, there is no competition. You can buy 2 65" C8s for less than the 77" version.

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                              • XxGamerXx
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                                • Jul 2018
                                • 1029

                                #6465
                                Re: LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

                                Originally posted by Hockeynut99
                                Lol oh OS. Let the pissing match begin. Any way I decided to pull the trigger on the Sony 65 a9f Scott. And then also get the Sony sound bar for $1200. I liked the way it sounds at Best Buy. I was tempted to get the 77 Sony but that is too big for my wall spot. So I will go get it today and I am thinking of having it mounted. I don’t know if all Sony’s have that tilt back but I don’t know how I feel about that.

                                OLED vs QLED = LED VS PLASMA.
                                nobody said otherwise so not sure why being stated

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