Dexter (Season 6)

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  • Seymour Scagnetti
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    • Oct 2006
    • 2489

    #601
    Re: Dexter (Season 6)

    Originally posted by CMH
    You're right. That part isn't valid.


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    No, actually you're right. Anticipation is not the last 20 minutes of the show. It's done over several shows to build tension. Just like the tension we felt when we first knew who the ice truck killer was and Deb was dating him. That was tension built over several shows and not Deb running into the ITK and then going on the boat with him 15 minutes later. Why they feel the need to cater to the ADD crowd is beyond me.

    Watch how badly thay handle this Deb finds out scenario next year. We will all be continually going WTF?????
    Last edited by Seymour Scagnetti; 12-20-2011, 06:40 PM.

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    • CMH
      Making you famous
      • Oct 2002
      • 26203

      #602
      Yes I agree there. What I meant wasn't valid is saying we didn't know Debra would show up. We did know.

      But I agree, and that's what I was getting into about the reveal, that the anticipation wasn't strong enough. For me, at least.

      I think something like that should have been handled with care, with the audience watching a season of the pieces coming together.

      This is why I was upset earlier this thread with the psychiatrist angle. I liked that they threw that in - About the only thing that made a lot of sense actually because it pulls in things we've learned about Deb - but was distraught with Deb not ever coming to the conclusion that she is Travis's sister. It really isn't a far-fetched thought. Inquiring minds try to find comparisons to their struggle. It was thrown at our faces (Travis the killing brother with a loving sister and dead parents. Duh) and yet for what? That was an opportunity to use that device and they just let it die.

      But What disappoints me most is Deb falling into the reveal. I guess I just expected more. I thought she would have to figure it out. It just seems that figuring it out is no longer a story element on the show and I don't know why.

      However one thing I have warmed to is the love angle. It was disturbing at first but I've gotten over that part. I think it's been done in an interesting way because the psychiatrist is sort of egging her on.

      It bleeds of someone suddenly becoming concerned over something simply because someone mentioned it. Like the fallen child that cries only because mommy gets flustered and as a result alarms the child of danger or harm.

      I'm not sure Deb is truly in love with Dex. I do think it's normal for her to wonder if she is especially when someone says the right things to make her curious. And she handled it realistically, I thought, in this finale by being awkward over the slightest of things that didn't matter.

      I guess instead of seeing it like Deb is hot for her adopted brother, I see another case of Deb being classic confused Deb. And rather than it being something that could have escalated into her making a move five minutes into feeling this way, it was taken the complete opposite direction of the things I felt were botched this season by allowing it to build.

      It's still building and as weird as it might be, her facing this doubt, this question is something that hopefully will add a vital element to her choosing to either side with her brother or not.

      I am concerned considering this season's result but it does seem the plot line of Deb deciding what to do over this reveal has been outlined well ahead of time.


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      • JayBee74
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        • Jul 2002
        • 22989

        #603
        Re: Dexter (Season 6)

        This season is in a virtual tie with season 5 as my least favorite. I did like some things, but there wasn't much "primal intensity" this time around. I enjoyed the office politics, the new guy Mike, the nerdy video game guy, and even the bromance between Angel and Quinn.

        I didn't enjoy the savageness. James Olmos was wasted as a useless sounding board for a demented and ineffective Hanks Junior. Dexter's ritual killings had lost their effect over the years through repetition. Though not bad this year, (including the non ritual beach kill) there wasn't anything that you'd bother to see again on your DVR. When the show tried to get to the viewer's base blood thirsts it was boring. I couldn't wait for Hanks/Olmos to get off the screen. In season 4 I couldn't wait for Lithgow to get on it.

        The last two episodes were terrible. During the season finale my finger was poised on the fast forward button. I couldn't wait to get to the surprise at the bottom of the box. And then the big reveal:

        Yeah, predictable, but not half bad. At least there is something of interest being brought to season 7.

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        • Steve_OS
          Editor-in-Chief
          • Jul 2002
          • 33826

          #604
          Re: Dexter (Season 6)

          Not gonna lie, I thought the Shrink and Deb were gonna get busy. Then the Dexter kissing **** happened...
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          • bichettehappens
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            • Jun 2010
            • 2547

            #605
            Originally posted by Steve_OS
            Not gonna lie, I thought the Shrink and Deb were gonna get busy. Then the Dexter kissing **** happened...
            Honestly I kinda thought that during their earlier interactions too LOL

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            • The 24th Letter
              ERA
              • Oct 2007
              • 39373

              #606
              Re: Dexter (Season 6)

              Just finished officially watching the episode...it was torture waiting with it having premiered Sunday....

              I really enjoyed it....had that "something big is coming" feel the whole episode, and man did it deliver...

              Can't wait until season 7. Now it's time to catch up with Breaking Bad...

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              • ASB37
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                • Feb 2003
                • 2624

                #607
                Re: Dexter (Season 6)

                Dexter's fallen off pretty far.

                I think I would be 100x more excited about Deb finding out if next season was the last. The fact that there are 2 more seasons just screams that Deb is going to accept Dexter and be kosher with him being a serial killer, or even worse she is going to be talked out of finding out that he is a serial killer and be convinced this was a one time thing.

                I agree with others, they totally missed the boat on having Deb find out due to a combo of her detective skills and Dexter's sloppiness. Instead they use the incest angle. Weaksauce.
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                • SlimKibbles
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                  • Apr 2004
                  • 7276

                  #608
                  Re: Dexter (Season 6)

                  Originally posted by Steve_OS
                  Not gonna lie, I thought the Shrink and Deb were gonna get busy. Then the Dexter kissing **** happened...
                  I'd have been okay with that. I actually thought the shrink was kind of attractive.
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                  • Seymour Scagnetti
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                    • Oct 2006
                    • 2489

                    #609
                    Re: Dexter (Season 6)

                    Originally posted by ASB37
                    Dexter's fallen off pretty far.

                    I think I would be 100x more excited about Deb finding out if next season was the last. The fact that there are 2 more seasons just screams that Deb is going to accept Dexter and be kosher with him being a serial killer, or even worse she is going to be talked out of finding out that he is a serial killer and be convinced this was a one time thing.

                    I agree with others, they totally missed the boat on having Deb find out due to a combo of her detective skills and Dexter's sloppiness. Instead they use the incest angle. Weaksauce.
                    The show going only 2 more seasons is not set in stone realistically. I would say it's 50/50 at best. If the show ratings continue to be strong, (and it may if they continue to dumb down the show to attract the reality show viewers,) then I would think that as long as Michael C. Hall wants to continue then they will go past 8 seasons. The show can maintain good ratings even if the quality continues to nosedive simply because the show had a very cool premise that is attractive to new viewers.

                    It all depends on how the other Showtime shows are doing. If they are all tanking, then they need the ratings from Dexter and Showtime will tell the producers to keep going. The executive producer has already hinted at that. I'm sure they'll wait until the end of 2012 to see the ratings of season 7 and gauge the health of thier other programs and announce it then.

                    Dexter isn't a show like the Sopranos where the creator sticks to his guns and says it's gonna end by a certain date no matter how high the ratings are. Dexter's writers are hacks and it's Showtime's flagship show so if they can milk it for all it's worth and keep the main actors signed up then they will.
                    Last edited by Seymour Scagnetti; 12-21-2011, 09:30 PM.

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                    • The Chef
                      Moderator
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 13684

                      #610
                      Re: Dexter (Season 6)

                      I dont understand why some of you even watch the show anymore. I cant tell if its just to have an avenue to continue complaining or if you actually hope it turns around at this point.
                      Last edited by The Chef; 12-22-2011, 12:57 AM.
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                      • The 24th Letter
                        ERA
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 39373

                        #611
                        Re: Dexter (Season 6)

                        Most say they are too invested in the characters...but when an investment goes bad, you sell...

                        When watching the show is more like doing a homework assignment where you have to find issues with every plot point or development, you sell..

                        When every episode results in long paragraphs about how disappointed you are, time to leave that investment alone....

                        Sometimes you have to let it go, lol

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                        • ASB37
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                          • Feb 2003
                          • 2624

                          #612
                          Re: Dexter (Season 6)

                          Originally posted by The Chef
                          I dont understand why some of you even watch the show anymore. I cant tell if its just to have an avenue to continue complaining or if you actually hope it turns around at this point.
                          Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                          Most say they are too invested in the characters...but when an investment goes bad, you sell...

                          When watching the show is more like doing a homework assignment where you have to find issues with every plot point or development, you sell..

                          When every episode results in long paragraphs about how disappointed you are, time to leave that investment alone....

                          Sometimes you have to let it go, lol
                          Doesn't take a rocket science to "find" the issues people are pointing out. IMO some of these issues are thrown right in our face.

                          It amazes me personally how sensitive some people are on OS to criticism. I see it regarding video games and I see it in the TV threads.

                          Some people can enjoy a show while being critical of it at the same time. Not everyone has to watch TV and be blissfully ignorant of flaws.

                          All of the flaws pointed out in this thread has been vaild. Some of my criticism has actually been cleared up by some of the posters in here that better explained some of the things I saw.

                          I think the back and forth is great. For me personally I watch dexter because I have enjoyed 4 of the seasons out of the 6, so yes I am invested, but I also feel like the show still does more things right than wrong.
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                          • The 24th Letter
                            ERA
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 39373

                            #613
                            Re: Dexter (Season 6)

                            Dexter has been picking locks like its 1970 for 6 seasons and hasnt run into one alarm system....I'm more than capable of seeig flaws, lol...I could post this everyone he does it, but what's the point?

                            I dont think anyone in here is sensitive....but when does it stop being criticism and start becoming nitpicking for 5 pages after every episode?

                            If that is what this thread is for, I completely misjudged it, and that's my fault...this is my first Dexter thread since I am just now catching up.

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                            • JayBee74
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                              • Jul 2002
                              • 22989

                              #614
                              Re: Dexter (Season 6)

                              Originally posted by Seymour Scagnetti
                              Dexter's writers are hacks and it's Showtime's flagship show so if they can milk it for all it's worth and keep the main actors signed up then they will.
                              Have they changed writers since the beginning of the series?

                              With Debra seeing Dexter do his thing, I see a 0% possibility of this thing going beyond the current two year contract.

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                              • Beantown
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                                • Feb 2005
                                • 31523

                                #615
                                Yeah the writers have changed two or three times and the show runner changed this season I believe.

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