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  • Blzer
    Resident film pundit
    • Mar 2004
    • 42517

    #406
    Re: The Audiophile Thread

    Yeah man, in a 50'x40' room you are looking at two 12" ported subs minimum, and that's not the recommended amount (I would go four 13" ported subs lol). Make sure you said that number right. What is the ceiling height?
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    • Cusefan
      Earlwolfx on XBL
      • Oct 2003
      • 9820

      #407
      Re: The Audiophile Thread

      Originally posted by SuperBowlNachos
      Was 50'x40' a typo? That is a massive room. It won't be a big deal with the speakers, but I imagine there will be a lack of good bass with that small sub. You are right though about that speaker set being highly regarded. The receiver is also nice and gives you opportunity in the future to do any upgrades (even Atmos).

      Not a typo but the wrong measurements, it's going into the basement so I used the measurements for the carpet we want but it's going to be more like 35'x25'.


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      • Cusefan
        Earlwolfx on XBL
        • Oct 2003
        • 9820

        #408
        The Audiophile Thread

        Originally posted by Cusefan
        Not a typo but the wrong measurements, it's going into the basement so I used the measurements for the carpet. it's going to be more like 35'x25'. Just guessing, I'd say the ceiling measurement is 10'. Here are a couple photos I took when we were initially looking at the house:


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        • Blzer
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          • Mar 2004
          • 42517

          #409
          Re: The Audiophile Thread

          That's still a big room, even if the hallway is open. If you went sealed, it would be awesome if you went dual-subs. Smooth frequencies across all seating arrangements without many nulls, hitting the lows if possible.

          If you could get a couple of SB-12's or something, You probably wouldn't ever look back. It doesn't sound like it's in your budget though. The good news about SVS is that you have a 45 day return policy and you have a year to exchange straight up for an upgrade (paying the difference), so maybe you consider going one sub there now, and then you can either add on or upgrade from there a year from now. But you want to have some headroom and not overwork your sub.

          You do realize that at minimum you're looking at a 7000 ft^3 room, minus the hallway. I'd work hard in terms of research on what you should get for a sub is all I'm saying. That's a lot of territory.
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          • Cusefan
            Earlwolfx on XBL
            • Oct 2003
            • 9820

            #410
            The Audiophile Thread

            Well I want to start off with a 5.1 system, I figure with the Receiver I will be able to upgrade in future. I will definitely run extra wires if I want to add another sub or rear speakers. I know future proofing anything technology related is foolhardy but I hope this system will at least be a good starting point.


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            • SuperBowlNachos
              All Star
              • Jul 2004
              • 10218

              #411
              Re: The Audiophile Thread

              Your receiver should be good for a while unless you get catch the bug and start getting into some high end equipment.

              Do you currently sit at the very back of the room like that old furniture was set up? If you do I would get whatever length of RCA cable that is needed and have your sub back by your seating area.

              Don't test out a bigger sub unless you actually want it. I promise if you did a trial with SVS there is a 0% chance you send it back lol.

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              • Cusefan
                Earlwolfx on XBL
                • Oct 2003
                • 9820

                #412
                Re: The Audiophile Thread

                I think I will have a similar furniture setup, maybe move the couch a foot off the wall so it will be in the sweet spot for the surround sound. I am a newb at all of this so it will be something I learn a long the way. Should I save a bit more now so I can have a 7.1?


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                • SuperBowlNachos
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                  • Jul 2004
                  • 10218

                  #413
                  Re: The Audiophile Thread

                  Originally posted by Cusefan
                  I think I will have a similar furniture setup, maybe move the couch a foot off the wall so it will be in the sweet spot for the surround sound. I am a newb at all of this so it will be something I learn a long the way. Should I save a bit more now so I can have a 7.1?


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                  I would personally save up more so the .1 in a 5.1 can be bigger and better. I think you'll get more satisfaction out of nice/better bass than you would from 2 additional normal speakers behind you.

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                  • shon
                    Me?
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 503

                    #414
                    Re: The Audiophile Thread

                    Originally posted by Blzer
                    That's still a big room, even if the hallway is open. If you went sealed, it would be awesome if you went dual-subs. Smooth frequencies across all seating arrangements without many nulls, hitting the lows if possible.

                    If you could get a couple of SB-12's or something, You probably wouldn't ever look back. It doesn't sound like it's in your budget though. The good news about SVS is that you have a 45 day return policy and you have a year to exchange straight up for an upgrade (paying the difference), so maybe you consider going one sub there now, and then you can either add on or upgrade from there a year from now. But you want to have some headroom and not overwork your sub.

                    You do realize that at minimum you're looking at a 7000 ft^3 room, minus the hallway. I'd work hard in terms of research on what you should get for a sub is all I'm saying. That's a lot of territory.
                    I have a large open game room, 50x20, the theater part with seats is about 20x20, and I initially only had 1 SVS PC12-Plus cylinder sub, which is a large sub, but it wasn't enough to have the bass sound great from all the seating areas. I eventually had to go with a 2nd one and it made a huge difference so you really want to think about going with 2 subs. You may can build a sub to save costs as the initial investment for 2 subs is usually quite large.
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                    • shon
                      Me?
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 503

                      #415
                      Re: The Audiophile Thread

                      Originally posted by SuperBowlNachos
                      I would personally save up more so the .1 in a 5.1 can be bigger and better. I think you'll get more satisfaction out of nice/better bass than you would from 2 additional normal speakers behind you.
                      I agree, the extra umph from a good sub will be better than having the extra 2 speakers. I have a 9.2 setup and the extra speakers adds a bit to the experience but having a nice bass really adds to the watching/playing experience.
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                      • Blzer
                        Resident film pundit
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 42517

                        #416
                        Re: The Audiophile Thread

                        Originally posted by SuperBowlNachos
                        Do you currently sit at the very back of the room like that old furniture was set up? If you do I would get whatever length of RCA cable that is needed and have your sub back by your seating area.
                        Yes, nearfield is pretty much an automatic given for him. Place one behind the couch or something, for sure.
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                        • Cusefan
                          Earlwolfx on XBL
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 9820

                          #417
                          Re: The Audiophile Thread

                          Originally posted by shon
                          I agree, the extra umph from a good sub will be better than having the extra 2 speakers. I have a 9.2 setup and the extra speakers adds a bit to the experience but having a nice bass really adds to the watching/playing experience.
                          The system I am looking at comes with a sub
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                          • Blzer
                            Resident film pundit
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 42517

                            #418
                            Re: The Audiophile Thread

                            Originally posted by Cusefan
                            The system I am looking at comes with a sub
                            Have you considered different systems, then?

                            Not trying to take you away from the Energy's, but just do a bunch of research. It's half the fun of investing in AV equipment. I take months doing research for the most part.

                            FYI, your system went at low as $269.79 back in July, and your refurb receiver was $369.99 less than a month ago.
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                            • SuperBowlNachos
                              All Star
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 10218

                              #419
                              Re: The Audiophile Thread

                              Mounted my new rear speakers. Nothing too fancy, but the mounts are nice. Found them on Amazon for I think $35 for the pair.

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                              • SuperBowlNachos
                                All Star
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 10218

                                #420
                                Re: The Audiophile Thread

                                http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica...SIN=B00HVLUR86

                                Audio-Technica ATH-M50x on sale for $117

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