New HBO Series True Detective (McConaughey and Harrelson)

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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So they find out about guy A, but than run into guy B and have to deal with guy B first and it takes up the whole episode, sooo... time waster. You guys love the scene that's all good im not about action I get it though it was intense but personally I want the story and this just stalled it.
but owell, either way no need to throw down a troll claim

How was that stalling the story? The whole episode was finding the whereabouts of the killer and Rusty had to go infiltrate the biker gang to get a meeting with him. And to get that meeting he had to do a job for the biker beforehand. And its with a gang that he was involved with as a Narc so that's his way in.

Exactly what part did not advance the story? Its all part of the story. Did you think it would be more satisfying to just find out the killer's address in the first 2 minutes because they looked in the phonebook and bash down the door and cuff him. Or go to the club and put on a really mean face and have that stripper tell them the killers address, social security # and what he had for dinner the night before? Thats the crap they did in Dexter because they were in a hurry to do everything. In this series its a build up of tension and this series is all about a slow burn and so far they've done it perfectly.

If you don't like it then fine but calling it a filler makes no sense. If it was like some of those Sopranos episodes where Tony dreams the whole hour then I would agree but this may have been one of the best hours of television ever. Just because they showed a glimpse of the killer in the third episode doesn't mean it has to have an immediate resolution the very next episode.

You said you're not all about action but you seem to want instant resolution and for me that's what makes a show boring and devoid of tension.

[Bmore Irish]

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I viewed the episode as development of the story, not filler or time killing.

It may even be foreshadowing.

It seems like they keep getting closer, but then they seem to spin their wheels, or realize they took a wrong turn.

The guy they're looking for is totally off the grid at this point, and they're having to track down and go undercover with criminal associates who might, not definitely, but might be able to get them to their guy.

They're getting desperate because they know they're running out of time.

Not only that, but if you consider what Charlie Lange said in prison, the scope of this entire case may be a lot larger than Reggie the meth cooking serial killer.

And that's just as far as the story goes.

Excellent, excellent episode in every possible way. The best so far in my opinion. And if the trend continues, they'll keep getting better.

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[Novicain13]

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Wow! What an episode..the final 20 minutes had me on the edge of my seat the entire time!

[gopher_guy]

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Just watched that final sequence again, it's up in youtube. Man that was impressive. McConaughey was brilliant.

"In and out... In and out..."

[Clarke99]

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How was that stalling the story? The whole episode was finding the whereabouts of the killer and Rusty had to go infiltrate the biker gang to get a meeting with him. And to get that meeting he had to do a job for the biker beforehand. And its with a gang that he was involved with as a Narc so that's his way in.

Exactly what part did not advance the story? Its all part of the story. Did you think it would be more satisfying to just find out the killer's address in the first 2 minutes because they looked in the phonebook and bash down the door and cuff him. Or go to the club and put on a really mean face and have that stripper tell them the killers address, social security # and what he had for dinner the night before? Thats the crap they did in Dexter because they were in a hurry to do everything. In this series its a build up of tension and this series is all about a slow burn and so far they've done it perfectly.

If you don't like it then fine but calling it a filler makes no sense. If it was like some of those Sopranos episodes where Tony dreams the whole hour then I would agree but this may have been one of the best hours of television ever. Just because they showed a glimpse of the killer in the third episode doesn't mean it has to have an immediate resolution the very next episode.

You said you're not all about action but you seem to want instant resolution and for me that's what makes a show boring and devoid of tension.

The bold, that's it right there lol Ill admit it. I don't like that we get side tracked I expected to know about the main guy, get more backround on him but instead we had the leader of the Biker gang, not saying the story doesn't make sense or isn't congruent I just get impatient, I was expecting by the end of the episode they would be just about to confront the main guy with a nice cliff hanger. Than next week something or someone else blows our mind away that's all. But yes Impatience 100% I admit it. Always feel like "get to the point" that's just me though.

On another note to the guy who said the show painted his town like its all biker gangs and gangsta's gotta say that's rough lol

[HustlinOwl]

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On another note to the guy who said the show painted his town like its all biker gangs and gangsta's gotta say that's rough lol

Story takes place 1995 is he aware town during that period?


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[JKorbini]

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I lived in the town during 1995. Its not about satanic, biker gangs or shootouts on the street.

LOL

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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I suppose it could just be an educated guess. He saw which direction they were headed on the river, and probably knows where the notable meth neighborhoods are, so he headed down there, anticipating that's where Cohle would end up. At least that's what I figured.

As many people know here, no one likes to point out plot holes more than me but actually this isn't one of them. When Rusty and Marty were discussing their plan, Rusty said that he wasn't sure what might go down tonight but told him to make sure to listen closely to the police channels. Marty saw Rusty go down the river and then was sitting in his car and heard the calls on the police radio about a disturbance in the projects so it was pretty likely that disturbance involved Rusty so him heading there and being in the general area when Rusty called wasn't really a big reach.

[Bruins]

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I lived in the town during 1995. Its not about satanic, biker gangs or shootouts on the street.

LOL

You realize this is fiction, right?

[Antec]

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The final scene was done in a single 6 minute take. They filmed it 8 times and had points where they could edit and cut in pieces of each take but used just one complete take. Very impressive especially climbing the fence.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1722001/true-detective-long-take.jhtml

[jmood88]

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The only thing that bothered me a little about the final scene was how Rust and the other guy got out of the first house without getting attacked. They went outside, then the dudes from the other gang walked right past them and beat up one of the other guys trying to get out.

[johnnyg713]

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Best thing about this show is it has a ton of rewatchability (if that's even a word). They seem to be alluding to MM's character to have some involvement in the murders (present time). Rewatching the last episode, there were some subtle hints that makes you wonder if he's telling the truth to WH about his past. One example was when MM talked about being undercover or something along those lines for 4 years and WH remarks saying that's unusual, usually guys are assigned for 11 months. I've been picking up on little things like this as I've been Rewatching episodes.

Another thing that has me a little curious is the fact that MM is drinking during this current day interview, or in some eyes, interrogation. I have no background in the justice system but I'm wondering if him drinking has an affect on the credibility of his story. His character is extremely bright and I think he could be playing around with the cops who want his side of the story. Previews for next week seems that the story is headed this way.

I know for sure it will be interesting to rewatch the season once we find out the real story. But for anyone looked for an excuse to rewatch the first 4 episodes, try watching it with the assumption that MM is the killer.

[Bmore Irish]

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I just don't see any way that either Rust or Marty are involved in the murders; just don't think that's the direction this is going, though I did consider that angle a bit in the beginning.

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[johnnyg713]

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I just don't see any way that either Rust or Marty are involved in the murders; just don't think that's the direction this is going, though I did consider that angle a bit in the beginning.

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There are some big hints the writers throw out there to make the viewers believe it could go in that way. I actually believe for now, the show is going that way based on the previews. I mean it is obvious the cops current day are suspicious of him. I'm not saying it's definitely him but I mean, MM just so happening to have been in the same biker gang and knowing that guy just by coincidence could be a little bit of a stretch in my eyes. In the end I could see neither of them being involved but for now there are too many connections (wether it's intended by the writers or not)

[Bmore Irish]

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There are some big hints the writers throw out there to make the viewers believe it could go in that way. I mean it is obvious the cops current day are suspicious of him. I'm not saying it's definitely him but I mean, MM just so happening to have been in the same biker gang and knowing that guy just by coincidence could be a little bit of a stretch in my eyes.

Well he was doing hardcore undercover Narco in Texas, as you mentioned, so I can buy that part of the story; his cover was never blown with all the criminals he was running with.

I can see how you'd consider Rust as a possible suspect, and even how the detectives interviewing them in 2012 might have their questions, but the more I watch, the more I think it's gonna be a situation where this cult has perpetrated copycat murders that are discovered years later, and Marty and Rust will become integral in helping the detectives with the modern day investigation.

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