Survivor: Cagayan — Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty

[wwharton]

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Tony finally screwed up with the idol

Yeah didn't really get that because he could've given it to Trish and still covered his own butt. I see some saying he voted for Trish. I don't remember seeing that at the end. I'm pretty sure they didn't show Tony's vote. Woo voted for Trish which made 3 so the last vote didn't need to be read.

Which would also mean that if Tony gave Trish his idol, Kass (miss "You just sealed your fate") would've been gone.

Ya. That could very well be the stupidest move in the history of Survivor. Worse than Erik or Brandon. He was in the most powerful position in Survivor history and he messed it up! He's done for sure now and it sucks cause he deserved to win more than anyone and now it looks like Spencer is gonna win the season.

He would've been guaranteed final 3 even if Trish was gone, and he would choose who's in the final 3. If final 2 is Kass and Spencer......That has to be one of the worst final 2s in the history of Survivor.

I just can't understand the thought that Tony should win. He's horrible. He's still there bc all 3 of the others would rather be sitting next to him facing a jury.

I wouldn't mind if Spencer won, he's played a good game. But I think Tony has played a great game too. I don't think anyone has ever blindsided their alliance only to "be their leader" again.... twice. Tony has controlled the game for a long time, and who cares if he's lied to people. I hate how the final vote always comes down to nothing more than a popularity contest. If I was on the jury, I'd look closely at how the final 3 outwit, outlasted, and outplayed the others.... not how someone annoyed me or voted me out. That's bitter. I think it's a toss up for me on Spencer or Tony winning, it would have to come down to the arguments (which I think past people have done a really poor job of convincing the jury that they deserve it, even if they really did).

As for Kass, she is my least favorite player to ever play the game. I can't stand her, and she's a terrible player. I think all she has done well is flip alliances at the right time. Trish and Tony called her out (especially Trish) on how she plays both sides and then cries victim as soon as someone calls her out. She's a terrible person, but she's a terrible Survivor player as well. At tribal, when Trish and Tony talked about Kass, you saw EVERYONE laughing and smiling about it, and most of those people were laughing and smiling because what Trish and Tony were saying was right. I doubt she has a chance to win, but if she does, I'll be disappointed.

I don't think anybody cares about lies in general... everybody lies on the show. But he's been horrible at it... and more gullable than anyone else. The only reason he's still around is bc he's found so many idols, not bc he's been running things. He can't even win challenges.

[WTF]

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They showed his vote. It was Trish. I have no clue why.

[Bruins]

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They showed his vote. It was Trish. I have no clue why.

They did? When? I only saw them reveal Spencer and Trish's votes.

[kingkilla56]

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They did? When? I only saw them reveal Spencer and Trish's votes.

After the episodes 'end' and the credits are rolling the evicted gets a last monologue before the episode actually ends. During that time they've shown short clips of the rest of the votes that didnt air on the program.

This past week, that short segment of the program ended showing Tony revealing his vote as Trish. Still wondering the strategy in that. Maybe he didnt want to rattle any feathers going into the next cut. But he virtually has no leg to stand on if the other 3 wise up and take him out.

I know we like to bag on tony for doing too much, but the way I see it, hes the only one who did anything on this show. Like every real game changing thing was done by him. Anyone else winning, including Spencer, would be a sham! Spencer is my number two. The other two goons are worthless.

[Majingir]

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The only reason he's still around is bc he's found so many idols, not bc he's been running things. He can't even win challenges.

He's never even used an idol to stay in the game though or brought it up to anyone as a reason why they should keep him. As for challenges...it's not his fault. This season of challenges has catered way too much to certain types of people. There has been so many balance or puzzle challenges this season it's crazy.

I hate how Survivor tries so hard now to make challenges fair for certain people but all they do is make it unfair for other types of people. Look at the days when Colby won so many challenges and look at the challenges they had then. Now the ones they have today cater to females(challenges which require balance are usually best for people with small feet and/or are flexible.) and smart people(puzzles are usually won by the smart people) so much more than it does the strong guys.


I saw commercial for finale. It confirms whether it's a final 2 or 3. It also ONLY featured 1 of the 4 remaining castaways...which really makes me think that they are the winner of the season.

[SuperBowlNachos]

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Seems like there have been plenty of two part challenges. Tony flew up the steps in the strength part, then Spencer made up the time with the puzzle.

[p_rushing]

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Seems like there have been plenty of two part challenges. Tony flew up the steps in the strength part, then Spencer made up the time with the puzzle.

I think that's the point, most of the challenges have included a puzzle. There haven't been just physical challenges, there have been mental/puzzle, endurance, and some combination.

[aukevin]

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I think that's the point, most of the challenges have included a puzzle. There haven't been just physical challenges, there have been mental/puzzle, endurance, and some combination.

I wish they would have had the bug eating challenge this time early on when all the beauties were there.

[wwharton]

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After the episodes 'end' and the credits are rolling the evicted gets a last monologue before the episode actually ends. During that time they've shown short clips of the rest of the votes that didnt air on the program.

This past week, that short segment of the program ended showing Tony revealing his vote as Trish. Still wondering the strategy in that. Maybe he didnt want to rattle any feathers going into the next cut. But he virtually has no leg to stand on if the other 3 wise up and take him out.

I know we like to bag on tony for doing too much, but the way I see it, hes the only one who did anything on this show. Like every real game changing thing was done by him. Anyone else winning, including Spencer, would be a sham! Spencer is my number two. The other two goons are worthless.

Kass has made at least 2 and maybe 3 strategic moves that have had an impact. And I think overall there would've been more if Tony wasn't bulldozing his way through things. Personally, I don't think that means someone should win.

He's never even used an idol to stay in the game though or brought it up to anyone as a reason why they should keep him. As for challenges...it's not his fault. This season of challenges has catered way too much to certain types of people. There has been so many balance or puzzle challenges this season it's crazy.

I hate how Survivor tries so hard now to make challenges fair for certain people but all they do is make it unfair for other types of people. Look at the days when Colby won so many challenges and look at the challenges they had then. Now the ones they have today cater to females(challenges which require balance are usually best for people with small feet and/or are flexible.) and smart people(puzzles are usually won by the smart people) so much more than it does the strong guys.


I saw commercial for finale. It confirms whether it's a final 2 or 3. It also ONLY featured 1 of the 4 remaining castaways...which really makes me think that they are the winner of the season.

He's never used the idol to stay in the game? So announcing that he has it in camp over and over isn't meant to make sure he didn't get voted for. Bringing his "bag of tricks" and making it known wasn't meant to do that? He played one, showed another, and made it clear every episode that he had at least one if not two. If he never found an idol he would've been gone a long time ago.

The "it's not his fault" talk on challenges, I don't even know where to go with that. It's a show where men are competing with women and you're feeling sorry for him that there aren't more male dominated challenges. I have no problem with the challenges at all. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out a puzzle, and as for balancing, you may have a point if we were talking about Cliff. He just sucks at challenges... pretty much everything besides running his mouth actually. There's no way I'd vote for him.

[l3ulvl]

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I wish they would have had the bug eating challenge this time early on when all the beauties were there.

I can't stand the "eat gross stuff" challenges, my least favorite part of the show

[kingkilla56]

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Kass has made at least 2 and maybe 3 strategic moves that have had an impact. And I think overall there would've been more if Tony wasn't bulldozing his way through things. Personally, I don't think that means someone should win.

If its between Tony and Kass, Id go Tony in a landslide if I were being objective. But jurys arent known for being objective.

Tony's bulldozing has kept him in the game despite having a major target on his back for the longest. While others were lethargic he was racking in the idols and knocking out legit competitor left and right and only Spencer was able to fight him off with any success. Kass is 3rd on my list and thats only because Woo is the most pathetic guy ever.

[wwharton]

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If its between Tony and Kass, Id go Tony in a landslide if I were being objective. But jurys arent known for being objective.

Tony's bulldozing has kept him in the game despite having a major target on his back for the longest. While others were lethargic he was racking in the idols and knocking out legit competitor left and right and only Spencer was able to fight him off with any success. Kass is 3rd on my list and thats only because Woo is the most pathetic guy ever.

I'd say the idols did that, not his bulldozing... and then eventually keeping someone with a huge target on their back became beneficial to those looking at the comp they'd sit next to at a finale.

That's why I don't get the idea that he will win. The people voting are the ones he lied to, back stabbed, etc, etc. You can say it's all part of the game (and I agree to a certain extent) but I don't feel his was done in some grand strategic way that would sway a jury. I think part of the game is being able to make moves while still keeping in mind the final vote. It's not a secret that they'll eventually be facing a jury. And I don't think NOT voting for Tony would simply be for personal vengeance. I really don't like the way he's played the game. And considering how many idols he's found, I feel like almost any of the final 6 not named Trish would've been a lock for the finale so I don't give him extra credit for that.

[Majingir]

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I watched back some videos from before the season began and it was abit funny to see comments that were said. Jeffs comments on the eventual final 4(his comments were made before the taping of the season began) was funny. Basically said none of them would win.

Spencers pre-game interview seems to connect with the type of season he did have. Woos went almost the opposite of how he said lol. And Tonys also basically followed how he said it would.

[Money99]

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I miss Morgan, haha.

Final Episode should be fun. I'm wondering if Tony has finally cracked giving away his idol for no reason.

[aukevin]

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I watched all the Ponderosa vids on youtube today. After watching those... I would definitely take the following person to the final three with me, cause no votes will be given to that person:

Spoiler

Chaos Kass