Marvel's Daredevil (Netflix Original Series)

[jeebs9]

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This a very well done show. Even all the fight scenes were really well done.

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<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/4nxvgFaAVCg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Has to be one of the best fight scenes from the show

[Streets]

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Here are my hopes/ideas for season 2:

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With Fisk in jail, Owlsley's son (mentioned on the show but never shown) makes his move to become the sole Kingpin of Hell's Kitchen. He decides to become more than just a "money man" like his father, and puts his inherited money to use, hiring muscle (Gladiator?) and moving in on other people's territory, which starts a gangland war.

Of course Daredevil gets caught in the middle of the war, as his streets become more and more unsafe. From jail, Kingpin hires a mysterious assassin (but not really mysterious to anyone who knows anything about DD) to put hits out on all of the Owl's hired goons. You never see the assailant, just the aftermath of his killings (the buildup to Kingpin was so good, you could do something very similar with Bullseye). Kingpin uses Bullseye to keep a stronghold on his territory and finds out he's so good at his job, that his reach begins to spread beyond Hell's Kitchen into other NYC territories.

Bullseye and Daredevil finally come face to face when Matt thwarts his attempt to kill the Owl. Owl escapes both Bullseye's hit and Matt's attempt to arrest him, and the two are left to square off. An enraged Bullseye almost kills Daredevil in the showdown. Matt barely escapes and realizes he's never met a foe like Lester who slowly becomes obsessed with Daredevil over the season.

I think Bullseye as the main antagonist could work in season two if cast right. He is a very charismatic psychopath in the comics and could carry the show having Fisk more of a background character (think: the Wire).

I like the idea of Bullseye/DD crossing paths because of their occupations. Stay away from the cliched, "I will have my revenge!" super-villain motif where Fisk hires Bullseye from jail specifically to kill Daredevil. Keep it grounded in reality. While it's obviously personal for Matt and Wilson (and it will easily become personal for the unhinged Bullseye), make Wilson's decisions be about business first, and have that drive the story with the revenge angle secondary.

You could then do more slow building of the Hand stuff ala season 1, and make that the primary storyline in season 3 after Bullseye is locked up.

Edit: Actually, you could keep the "mystery assassin's" identity a secret and ambiguous as to whether it is Bullseye or Elektra until revealed. The problem with that is as soon as it's announced who will play Bullseye, it will be all over the web, and you'll know it's him. Still, like I said earlier, we knew Fisk was Fisk, and it didn't take away from the suspense.

What would you guys like to see going forward?

[wwharton]

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As someone who hasn't watched the show all the way through (only through episode 1 actually... so many sports and other shows to keep up with too), I think you guys can feel free to talk about it freely. The spoiler tags are working fine too if everyone is comfortable with that, but I've actually been reading the spoilers and nothing said has ruined anything for me.

Maybe continue spoilering any huge plot twist or discussion of the final episode, but if you all think it'd be easier to talk freely at this point, have at it.

And please stop talking about not knowing his dna from spilled blood, lol. We're all excited about a movie coming out where a regular man with gadgets on his belt somehow stand a chance against an alien with no known weaknesses besides an obscure rock. Some details we gotta just look past.

[redsox4evur]

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As someone who hasn't watched the show all the way through (only through episode 1 actually... so many sports and other shows to keep up with too), I think you guys can feel free to talk about it freely. The spoiler tags are working fine too if everyone is comfortable with that, but I've actually been reading the spoilers and nothing said has ruined anything for me.

Maybe continue spoilering any huge plot twist or discussion of the final episode, but if you all think it'd be easier to talk freely at this point, have at it.

And please stop talking about not knowing his dna from spilled blood, lol. We're all excited about a movie coming out where a regular man with gadgets on his belt somehow stand a chance against an alien with no known weaknesses besides an obscure rock. Some details we gotta just look past.

Yea I am in the same boat. Only through 1 or 2 episodes because I have a ton of shows I am watching. But I am still reading spoilers. But just keep the big plot twists, etc. in spoilers and just say that is a major plot twist so that way we all know about before hand. And can't complain.

Edit: Man I need to read full posts. That part is hilarious and so true. But also with those shows like CSI you need to remember that the DNA takes days or weeks to get a result.

[jeebs9]

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As someone who hasn't watched the show all the way through (only through episode 1 actually... so many sports and other shows to keep up with too), I think you guys can feel free to talk about it freely. The spoiler tags are working fine too if everyone is comfortable with that, but I've actually been reading the spoilers and nothing said has ruined anything for me.

Maybe continue spoilering any huge plot twist or discussion of the final episode, but if you all think it'd be easier to talk freely at this point, have at it.

And please stop talking about not knowing his dna from spilled blood, lol. We're all excited about a movie coming out where a regular man with gadgets on his belt somehow stand a chance against an alien with no known weaknesses besides an obscure rock. Some details we gotta just look past.

Yea I am in the same boat. Only through 1 or 2 episodes because I have a ton of shows I am watching. But I am still reading spoilers. But just keep the big plot twists, etc. in spoilers and just say that is a major plot twist so that way we all know about before hand. And can't complain.

I guess I just don't want to be to one who spoils it for anyone. Once the filter comes off. I'm going to talk about everything..... everything.... So I'm going to stick with giving you guys 2-3 months to watch before I openly talk about the show.

But can we even call this a TV Show. It's a movie in my opinion.

[redsox4evur]

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I guess I just don't want to be to one who spoils it for anyone. Once the filter comes off. I'm going to talk about everything..... everything.... So I'm going to stick with giving you guys 2-3 months to watch before I openly talk about the show.

But can we even call this a TV Show. It's a movie in my opinion.

It's a TV show. A movie is one production that is finished in about 2.5 hours give or take. TV shows have multiple episodes that depending on how you are watching and the series take anywhere from 22 minutes to 2 hours. 22 minutes being watching a show online with no commercials and 2 hours being a season finale live with commercial breaks.

[CMH]

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It's a TV show. A movie is one production that is finished in about 2.5 hours give or take. TV shows have multiple episodes that depending on how you are watching and the series take anywhere from 22 minutes to 2 hours. 22 minutes being watching a show online with no commercials and 2 hours being a season finale live with commercial breaks.

Did you just give us a wiki definition of the difference between a movie and television show?

I think he knows. He's just stating how movie like the series is.

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[Streets]

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To me it's like an audio-visual novel. The Wire is the only other show I felt that way about, but the pacing and plotting really read more like a good novel than a TV or movie script. Each episode is like an issue or chapter. Some "can't put it down" like a good book, and others read a few pages when they get the time. I don't think it follows the conventional formula or tropes of a TV show or movie, which is what makes it so cool. The decision to release this via Netflix and allow for such an unorthodox style of storytelling was really the first in a long line of great decisions concerning this series.

[killerx2]

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As someone who hasn't watched the show all the way through (only through episode 1 actually... so many sports and other shows to keep up with too), I think you guys can feel free to talk about it freely. The spoiler tags are working fine too if everyone is comfortable with that, but I've actually been reading the spoilers and nothing said has ruined anything for me.

Maybe continue spoilering any huge plot twist or discussion of the final episode, but if you all think it'd be easier to talk freely at this point, have at it.

And please stop talking about not knowing his dna from spilled blood, lol. We're all excited about a movie coming out where a regular man with gadgets on his belt somehow stand a chance against an alien with no known weaknesses besides an obscure rock. Some details we gotta just look past.

i watched the show at a ver slow pace the first 3-4 episodes. trust me that you'll get sucked in soon and you'll understand why no one wants to risk spoiling anything

[daflyboys]

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It's a TV show. A movie is one production that is finished in about 2.5 hours give or take. TV shows have multiple episodes that depending on how you are watching and the series take anywhere from 22 minutes to 2 hours. 22 minutes being watching a show online with no commercials and 2 hours being a season finale live with commercial breaks.

I'm thinking it's more like a blues concert crossed over with a bar mitzvah but without all of the rituals, yet combined with curling, though there is no shot clock.

[trobinson97]

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I guess I just don't want to be to one who spoils it for anyone. Once the filter comes off. I'm going to talk about everything..... everything.... So I'm going to stick with giving you guys 2-3 months to watch before I openly talk about the show.

But can we even call this a TV Show. It's a movie in my opinion.

Well, I wasn't finished and I appreciated the care you and others put into not spoiling anything. I didn't read any spoilers unless they were episode tagged and I had watched the episode. Just because some people are fine with choosing to read spoilers doesn't mean everyone is fine with "not having a choice" to read something that could potentially be a spoiler for them. The show hasn't been out two weeks yet.

[Streets]

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Season 2 is a go!

No DeKnight scares me though...

Netflix Orders a Second Season of 'Marvel's Daredevil'

The Man Without Fear's adventures will continue in another season of 'Marvel's Daredevil,' coming only to Netflix in 2016!

Marvel and Netflix are proud to announce that "Marvel's Daredevil" will receive a second season, available only on the streaming service in 2016!

With the first season of "Marvel's Daredevil" proving a smash success with both audiences and critics, Netflix and Marvel will continue to create further adventures of the Man Without Fear! Doug Petrie ("Buffy the Vampire Slayer," "American Horror Story") and Marco Ramirez ("Sons of Anarchy"), who worked closely with Executive Producers Steven S. DeKnight and Drew Goddard during the first season, will serve as showrunners for Season 2. Petrie, Ramirez, Goddard ("Cabin in the Woods"), and Jeph Loeb ("Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.") will serve as Executive Producers of Season 2.

“While previous commitments unfortunately prevent me from continuing on with Daredevil into its second season," DeKnight explains, "I could not be happier that Doug Petrie and Marco Ramirez are carrying the torch. They were invaluable collaborators during our first season, and I for one can't wait to see what they do with the show moving forward."

"Marvel's Daredevil" is produced by Marvel Television in association with ABC Studios for Netflix.

"Marvel's A.K.A. Jessica Jones" comes only to Netflix later this year and "Marvel's Luke Cage" premieres on the streaming service in 2016. Future series exclusively debuting on Netflix include “Marvel’s Iron Fist” and “Marvel’s Defenders,” a mini-series event that reimagines a team of self-sacrificing, heroic characters.

Blinded as a young boy but imbued with extraordinary senses, Matt Murdock (Charlie Cox) fights against injustice by day as a lawyer, and by night as the Super Hero “Daredevil” in modern day Hell's Kitchen, New York City. "Marvel's Daredevil" stars Charlie Cox, Rosario Dawson, Vincent D’Onofrio, Deborah Ann Woll, Elden Henson, Scott Glenn, Bob Gunton, Toby Leonard Moore, Vondie Curtis Hall, Ayelet Zurer.

For more information on "Marvel's Daredevil," and the other exciting new Marvel Television series coming to Netflix, stay tuned to Marvel.com or visit Netflix.com/daredevil

[trobinson97]

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Great news and expected. So does this mean we get DD season 2 before Defenders or what? I was under the impression that we would get a season of each individual hero then see them and their story lines converge in Defenders and only after that would we see possible further seasons of individuals or the group, depending on the reception of each.

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What about Leland Owlsley? Is he dead or will he become

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He mentioned his son, so I'm guessing Leland(Sr?) is dead and his son will be will take his place as head of his business and become the Owl with a motive of taking of Fisk's territory/getting revenge for father's death. I just hope there is no flight serum introduced, or if it is, it's done really well. The idea of flying makes sense in the Marvel U, but not really this series as it's street level.

One thing I did take umbrage with is with the suit and the name. I know the suit was spoiled in the trailers and as weird as it sounds, I'll need to see more to judge. It is very Captain America-like, in that if you didn't modernize it, it would look silly directly adapted from the comics. I definitely liked Affleck's suit better, but I think a big part of this is the fact that, unlike the movie, this wasn't really a superhero show, so seeing Matt dressed as a superhero kind of jarred me a bit when he finally dons the suit and it pulled me out of the grounded feel I was talking about earlier (not severely, but there was a shift). I'm sure it will look better in an actual superhero show (The Defenders) alongside other heroes and

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it makes total sense that they wait to the very last episode to put him in it

. The black suit inspired from the Miller miniseries is one of the coolest costumes I've ever seen (as simple as it is). No complaints there.

Agreed. I don't really have a problem with the costume but seeing it after the more grounded, "realistic" black version definitely threw me a bit. The name, no problem with though I was fond of

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The Devil of Hell's Kitchen

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As far as drama season ones go, that was about as much as you could ask for from a show. There's a few things I think they can improve upon (like

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the Nelson/Page romantic storyline just died posthaste and then after there was nothing between them at all, and in the finale it's revealed that he may be with Marci

) but most of it is nitpick stuff.

Agreed there.

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There were definitely hints at times of mutual attraction and at the end, nothing. Karen clearly wasn't a fan of the woman but in the end there was not even a hint of resentment. Maybe it was because it gave her a shot with Matt without possible resentment from Foggy because she also showed some signs of attraction to him?

[jeebs9]

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I just don't think the second season will be as good.

[tabarnes19_SDS]

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I've read second season will be in 2016. So it appears it will be before the Defenders.


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