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  • Dogslax41
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    • Aug 2003
    • 1901

    #61
    Re: The Night Of (HBO)

    Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
    Yep. I am suspicious of everyone. Everyone that is not the lawyers, detective, police officers on the scene, in booking, and his parents are suspects to me.

    I have a feeling it is going to be one of the one's you least expect out of it, and in a 'holy ****' way.
    I'm really hoping it is. That was what I was hoping for from True Detective. But it might run along the same path and just be a show trying to tell the story of suspects, investigators and the system and just showing how each deal with an extremely flawed case.

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    • CMH
      Making you famous
      • Oct 2002
      • 26203

      #62
      Re: The Night Of (HBO)

      Originally posted by Dogslax41
      I'm really hoping it is. That was what I was hoping for from True Detective. But it might run along the same path and just be a show trying to tell the story of suspects, investigators and the system and just showing how each deal with an extremely flawed case.
      To be fair, True Detective did show us the killer early on. But I get what you're saying.

      I do think there's more about uncovering the truth in this story that will make it more meaningful. It's not about finding the killer. It's more about finding out how the killer (almost) got away with it.

      Two episodes in and it seems we are only building suspects. Nothing has been revealed to throw the scent off Naz. Still waiting for that first oh snap moment.
      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

      "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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      • AshamanCarnage
        Rookie
        • Jul 2006
        • 1252

        #63
        Re: The Night Of (HBO)

        Originally posted by CMH

        Two episodes in and it seems we are only building suspects. Nothing has been revealed to throw the scent off Naz. Still waiting for that first oh snap moment.
        As much as I'm suspicious of some of the people Naz encountered that night, I can't help but feel Naz isn't as innocent as he is claiming.

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        • jb12780
          Hall of Fame
          • Oct 2008
          • 10665

          #64
          Re: The Night Of (HBO)

          Was the same used for the five finger filet used to kill the victim? If I remember correctly didn't Naz find the knife next to him when he woke up the morning after?

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          • Novicain13
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            • Oct 2012
            • 1526

            #65
            Re: The Night Of (HBO)

            Originally posted by jb12780
            Was the same used for the five finger filet used to kill the victim? If I remember correctly didn't Naz find the knife next to him when he woke up the morning after?

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            The knife was in the room that they were drinking in.

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            • jb12780
              Hall of Fame
              • Oct 2008
              • 10665

              #66
              Re: The Night Of (HBO)

              Originally posted by Novicain13
              The knife was in the room that they were drinking in.
              Ahh ok. If the killer wasn't Naz, it would be pretty silly to leave the knife at the crime scene no?

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              • Novicain13
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                • Oct 2012
                • 1526

                #67
                Re: The Night Of (HBO)

                Originally posted by jb12780
                Ahh ok. If the killer wasn't Naz, it would be pretty silly to leave the knife at the crime scene no?

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                Yup,I don't think they have right weapon. The weapons happen to be very similar.

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                • Dogslax41
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                  • Aug 2003
                  • 1901

                  #68
                  Re: The Night Of (HBO)

                  Originally posted by Novicain13
                  Yup,I don't think they have right weapon. The weapons happen to be very similar.
                  Agree. The knife was in the same spot they left it when they went upstairs. They also made sure that it was mentioned twice that it could have been a serrated edge. Not only that but when he went back in and grabbed it there was not nearly enough blood on it commensurate to the blood in the bedroom.

                  Along the same lines why has it not been mentioned that given the bedroom was a bloodbath why was there no blood on his inhaler or his clothes. I can maybe see his clothes in that he could have been naked when he did it then took a shower (except that he still had blood on his hand) but the inhaler (as it was focused on in the last episode) was sitting in a huge blood stain and didn't have a drop on it. I can't remember, did he use it when he went back into the bedroom and drop it when he saw the body? If not then it doesn't make sense that it wouldn't have any blood on it. It just seems like the hot shot detective would have at least mentioned that even though he had her blood on him it wasn't near enough given the crime scene.

                  And what was up with the blood on the deer head's eye? That proximity wise didn't seem close to anything.

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                  • Novicain13
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 1526

                    #69
                    Re: The Night Of (HBO)

                    I'm thinking the Killer is the step dad. I would assume he has a key to the house. Also something is off about the cop that took Naz in.

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                    • JayBee74
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 22989

                      #70
                      Re: The Night Of (HBO)

                      Originally posted by Novicain13
                      I'm thinking the Killer is the step dad. I would assume he has a key to the house. Also something is off about the cop that took Naz in.
                      The female cop?

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                      • Novicain13
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 1526

                        #71
                        Re: The Night Of (HBO)

                        Originally posted by JayBee74
                        The female cop?


                        No the Bald cop who drove him to the station.

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                        • CMH
                          Making you famous
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 26203

                          #72
                          Re: The Night Of (HBO)

                          Originally posted by Dogslax41
                          Along the same lines why has it not been mentioned that given the bedroom was a bloodbath why was there no blood on his inhaler or his clothes. I can maybe see his clothes in that he could have been naked when he did it then took a shower (except that he still had blood on his hand) but the inhaler (as it was focused on in the last episode) was sitting in a huge blood stain and didn't have a drop on it. I can't remember, did he use it when he went back into the bedroom and drop it when he saw the body? If not then it doesn't make sense that it wouldn't have any blood on it. It just seems like the hot shot detective would have at least mentioned that even though he had her blood on him it wasn't near enough given the crime scene.
                          Because it would ruin his investigation and destroy the open and shut nature of the crime.

                          The lead detective wants the same thing a lot of detectives want: to connect the homicide to a suspect and move onto the next case.
                          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                          "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                          • EnigmaNemesis
                            Animal Liberation
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 12216

                            #73
                            Re: The Night Of (HBO)

                            Even the Boz (The Detective) is not 100% on this, and seemed to want to convince himself. The prosecutor saw through it, but is also scary as a reflection that this **** happens in real life with prosecution, etc..

                            You see through the bull****, but you still carry on.
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                            • Money99
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 12694

                              #74
                              Re: The Night Of (HBO)

                              Originally posted by CMH
                              Because it would ruin his investigation and destroy the open and shut nature of the crime.

                              The lead detective wants the same thing a lot of detectives want: to connect the homicide to a suspect and move onto the next case.
                              Am I the only one that was a bit suspicious of Box handing him his inhaler?
                              Shouldn't that be in lock-up as evidence? Surely Naz could have been given a new one?

                              Was it because Box didn't like how there was no blood splatter anywhere near it and was obviously placed their after the crime was committed?
                              Or was it simply because he was trying to gain Naz' trust?

                              Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                              Even the Boz (The Detective) is not 100% on this, and seemed to want to convince himself. The prosecutor saw through it, but is also scary as a reflection that this **** happens in real life with prosecution, etc..
                              Agreed. Just like Turturo said, it doesn't feel right to Box either.
                              I'm kind of hoping that he eventually gets on Naz's side before the show comes to a close.

                              I'm really, really enjoying this show after 2 episodes. All the actors are fantastic and the pace is just right at this point in the story.
                              Extremely well done so far.

                              I'm not sure which I like better, The Night Of, or Stranger Things.
                              Both are so good.

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                              • EnigmaNemesis
                                Animal Liberation
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 12216

                                #75
                                Re: The Night Of (HBO)

                                Originally posted by Money99
                                Am I the only one that was a bit suspicious of Box handing him his inhaler?
                                Shouldn't that be in lock-up as evidence? Surely Naz could have been given a new one?

                                Was it because Box didn't like how there was no blood splatter anywhere near it and was obviously placed their after the crime was committed?
                                Or was it simply because he was trying to gain Naz' trust?



                                Agreed. Just like Turturo said, it doesn't feel right to Box either.
                                I'm kind of hoping that he eventually gets on Naz's side before the show comes to a close.

                                I'm really, really enjoying this show after 2 episodes. All the actors are fantastic and the pace is just right at this point in the story.
                                Extremely well done so far.

                                I'm not sure which I like better, The Night Of, or Stranger Things.
                                Both are so good.
                                You make a very good point about the inhaler, both of you do. It could have been set to either or and to give us mixed feelings. Being slightly crooked as a detective since he is known to 'bend the rules', or to gain trust as well. Or both.
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