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  • chippered
    MVP
    • Aug 2002
    • 1528

    #2401
    Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

    Originally posted by candyman56
    I do agree that Sony is to blame for some of this like Microsoft last year when releasing so few consoles. I blame the property owners of these stores more than anything else as they should just tell people that they can't line up and to get a system they must show up at open.
    I agree, but could you imagine that scene? 20-50 people rushing a walmart. Pandemonium. The stores just need to set it up differently. Maybe set up a call in line for reservations. First however many that call in and can verify with a credit card or whatever get a system.
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    • ODogg
      Hall Of Fame
      • Feb 2003
      • 37953

      #2402
      Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

      Originally posted by chippered
      Acutally, I see nothing wrong with the people buying the system for whatever the value. Supply vs. Demand my friend.
      Yeah exactly, i offered my friends tickets for the scUM @ OSU game to the Alumni here as he was trying to sell them for about $1000. I had some inquiries but one guy emailed me 'YOU ARE SCUM, DON'T EVER EMAIL ME OR THE OTHER ALUMNI AGAIN!". Uhh hello, was my friend supposed to sell the tickets for face value? And besides, those prices are less than ebay. Don't shoot the messenger, which was me, or in the case of the PS3, Ebay and craigslist. It completely is supply vs demand.

      For people who think it's just outrageous that someone sells something for 5x or 10x it's sell value, no one is forcing you to buy... and if you really wanted one, then why wasn't your @ss sitting in the Circuit City parking lot starting last Tuesday?
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      • CaptainZombie
        Brains
        • Jul 2003
        • 37851

        #2403
        Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

        Originally posted by chippered
        I agree, but could you imagine that scene? 20-50 people rushing a walmart. Pandemonium. The stores just need to set it up differently. Maybe set up a call in line for reservations. First however many that call in and can verify with a credit card or whatever get a system.
        Not even that, they should have some kind of security at the store when they open the doors. If people are being jerks or fighting, kick them the hell out. If done correctly it can work. I'm still astonished at the 22 week old pregnant woman that went to Schaumburg, IL and was out there since Tuesday. What a f*cking moron. I'm sorry to say that.
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        • Fresh Tendrils
          Strike Hard and Fade Away
          • Jul 2002
          • 36131

          #2404
          Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

          If WW3 does not break out in an hour and 30 minutes, I will be very surprised.



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          • CaptainZombie
            Brains
            • Jul 2003
            • 37851

            #2405
            Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

            Originally posted by ODogg
            Yeah exactly, i offered my friends tickets for the scUM @ OSU game to the Alumni here as he was trying to sell them for about $1000. I had some inquiries but one guy emailed me 'YOU ARE SCUM, DON'T EVER EMAIL ME OR THE OTHER ALUMNI AGAIN!". Uhh hello, was my friend supposed to sell the tickets for face value? And besides, those prices are less than ebay. Don't shoot the messenger, which was me, or in the case of the PS3, Ebay and craigslist. It completely is supply vs demand.

            For people who think it's just outrageous that someone sells something for 5x or 10x it's sell value, no one is forcing you to buy... and if you really wanted one, then why wasn't your @ss sitting in the Circuit City parking lot starting last Tuesday?
            I'm not against people selling these things on ebay for more money. I wonder what has happened to the time when people would camp out because they were hardcore gamers to get the system so they can play it. I guess the way that prices have gone up on everything, every opportunity to make a dime needs to be taken advantage of.
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            • Fresh Tendrils
              Strike Hard and Fade Away
              • Jul 2002
              • 36131

              #2406
              Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

              Just curious, when did the "camp out for a game console" start occurring?



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              • HMcCoy
                All Star
                • Jan 2003
                • 8212

                #2407
                Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                Originally posted by candyman56
                I wonder what has happened to the time when people would camp out because they were hardcore gamers to get the system so they can play it.

                I know what you mean Candy, but the reality is that some of those people grew up, got great jobs, and decided that it's better to pay 2k to get an impossible to find system on day one from the comfort of their dektop than hang out in front of a store like they did when they were highschoolers or broke college students. Just think, Jermaine O'Neal was fined 5K for wearing a wristband in the wrong position. Do you honestly think Jermaine would hesitate for one moment to spend 3k on the most anticipated videogame hardware in console history that he and his kids are dying to have? If not just to brag to his fellow rich freinds? Or any Athelete/Entertainer/Dopeman to whom money is no object?

                Every winning bid is not going to be 5000+...but a lucky few will get major dough out of this.

                Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                Just curious, when did the "camp out for a game console" start occurring?
                When game companies started designing systems that were too tough to manufacture in mass. I worked at EB during the DC launch and their were 2 guys who camped...and that was from about 7:00 AM on that same day..store opened at 09:00. So I would say DC started the trend, and it really kicked off with the PS2, which was also extremely short of demand.
                Last edited by HMcCoy; 11-17-2006, 12:44 AM.
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                • roadman
                  *ll St*r
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 26339

                  #2408
                  Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                  What a world we live in when Kobe gives the 4 guys on TNT 4 PS3's when the rest of the world is fighting over them.

                  I agree it's supply vs demand, I just don't put myself in that catagory of paying 3-5 times more than face value for anything.

                  And for stores selling the limited number of PS3's, a lottery sytems would work. It works for rock concerts.

                  I remember getting up for rock concerts at 3 or 4 in the morning to be near the front of the line when tickets opened at 10 am. 10 years ago, Ticket Master set up a lottery system for Pearl Jam. I thought that worked real well. Of course, I drew a good number. I was 10th in line and the first night already sold out. We got good seats for the next night.
                  Last edited by roadman; 11-17-2006, 12:24 AM.

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                  • Fresh Tendrils
                    Strike Hard and Fade Away
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 36131

                    #2409
                    Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                    I'm sure a lottery system would ignite some small anger issues.



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                    • roadman
                      *ll St*r
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 26339

                      #2410
                      Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                      Probably, but it's a fair system, I feel.

                      If say a Wal-Mart is selling 10 at midnight, have signs stating line-up is at 11:15pm, and it's not a first come, first serve basis, but a lottery system will be in place.

                      If people know about that upfront, I think it's a fair system. That prevents people from camping out 2-3 days in advance.

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                      • WTF
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 20274

                        #2411
                        Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                        Yeah, that's what my local walmart did for the 360... not for the PS3 though.. they already handed out their tickets at 5 oclock because there was such a huge crowd, for 12 systems.
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                        • CaptainZombie
                          Brains
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 37851

                          #2412
                          Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                          Originally posted by WTF
                          Yeah, that's what my local walmart did for the 360... not for the PS3 though.. they already handed out their tickets at 5 oclock because there was such a huge crowd, for 12 systems.
                          That's what they need to do. Another thing I think is that once a store knows that they have say 20 systems for sale at launch and if there are campers outside, shoot, make the first 20 campers form a line inside the store with the security guard sitting there watching them till the morning when they can sell the darn thing. That way there is no violence occurs and people outside know that there are no more systems and time to go home.
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                          • HMcCoy
                            All Star
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 8212

                            #2413
                            Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                            I think Chippered had the best idea...phone reservations. Just like the "5th caller" contests on the radio. No physical conflicts whatsoever.

                            Bottom line is that these game companies should do a better job planning these launches..flat out.
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                            • CaptainZombie
                              Brains
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 37851

                              #2414
                              Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                              Originally posted by HMcCoy
                              I think Chippered had the best idea...phone reservations. Just like the "5th caller" contests on the radio. No physical conflicts whatsoever.

                              Bottom line is that these game companies should do a better job planning these launches..flat out.
                              It will take an incident of someone getting hurt seriously for them to fix this.
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                              • Fresh Tendrils
                                Strike Hard and Fade Away
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 36131

                                #2415
                                Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                                I really hope the parking lots are well lit and there are a couple security guards at the entrance of the stores, otherwise some people's launch plan could be to wait outside the store for the constant stream of free PS3s.



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