VERY interesting story about next-gen battle between MS, Sony, Nintendo

[mgoblue]

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It might be last-gen in terms of graphics, but it's definitely next-gen in terms of controller interface and its effect on gameplay. The PS3 and Xbox 360 offer absolutely nothing new in that area.

Take care,
PK

very true...I just don't see the Wii being the only console you own...if you want to play Madden, NCAA, or something with cool graphics the Wii won't be a good option. I still think the Wii will be awesome, just think that its limitations keep it from being a #1 option

[pk500]

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It's hard to compare sales when Microsoft had a one year lead on the competition.

Why? That didn't stop Sony from crowing about how much it crushed the Xbox and Gamecube in worldwide sales.

Take care,
PK

[VanCitySportsGuy]

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Why? That didn't stop Sony from crowing about how much it crushed the Xbox and Gamecube in worldwide sales.

Take care,
PK

My point about Microsoft getting the one year jump also applies to Sony getting a big jump on the competition with the PS2.

[pk500]

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very true...I just don't see the Wii being the only console you own...if you want to play Madden, NCAA, or something with cool graphics the Wii won't be a good option. I still think the Wii will be awesome, just think that its limitations keep it from being a #1 option

I must be one of the few who either understands or cares about this logic. OK, it will suck if some of my favorite franchises -- such as EA's Rugby -- don't come to the Wii.

But paying $500 to $600 for a system just for cool graphics? Give me the cheaper console with the innovative control scheme every time.

The Xbox 360 will have one significant advantage over the PS3 and Wii -- a dedicated, established, robust online service.

The Wii will have a few significant advantages over the Xbox 360 and PS3 -- the controller, the price and the lineup of Nintendo first-party exclusives.

I'm scratching my head right now to find an advantage of the PS3. Can anyone help me?

Take care,
PK

[pk500]

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My point about Microsoft getting the one year jump also applies to Sony getting a big jump on the competition with the PS2.

The PS2 could have started a year behind the Xbox and still crushed it due to the consumer equity built in the PlayStation name through the rousing success of the PS1, the HUGE third-party developer support for the PS2 and the comparable price tags for the PS2 and Xbox.

Take care,
PK

[Victor99]

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IMO the Wii is definently an interesting console and the price is certainly right as well. But it's not without it's flaws and shortcomings as well. It's basically a current gen console in terms of graphics,performance, etc. It won't have an online service anywhere near as good as the Xbox 360. Finally, it may be too "outside the box" for it's own good. The controller, while very innovative, won't be suited to every kind of game.

[Spongedaddy]

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Agreed. The Wii is a last gen console with a funky controller. It's a novelty item, not a serious contender for market leader.

Would you say the same thing about the DS?

Unless Nintendo has totally screwed up the Wii-mote, they are going to be in the mix of the race again.

Yeah it's great that MGS 4 will look incredible, but I am more excited to swing Zelda's sword. I also cannot wait to see the innovations that companies will come up with. The DS is a great example of taking a different approach to gaming and making it work.

[pk500]

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Would you say the same thing about the DS?

Very good point. The DS is technologically inferior to the PSP yet it's killing the PSP at the cash registers because developers are making the most of the dual screens and stylus, and the DS is really selling well to gamers older than 40, some of whom are new to the hobby, and "casual" gamers.

I think Nintendo is banking on the same kind of buying trends with the Wii.

The problem with the analysis of guys like us is that we're myopic because we're hardcore gamers. And for anyone here who claims they're not a hardcore gamer, you're in denial. You're reading and posting at a sports gaming forum. That alone indicates you have more interest in gaming, and spend more time and money on gaming than the average person.

Yes, there are different degrees of hardcore. But you're pretty damn serious about gaming if you're here, and your views of the hobby don't match the majority of the gaming market or those who haven't taken up the hobby, two market segments that Nintendo wants to dominate with the Wii.

I, for one, can't wait to scream "F*CK YOU!" at the TV while swinging my arm to cut a member of the Yakuza to shreds during an intense game of "Red Steel" with the Wii.

Also, boys, I'm very glad conversation on this topic has remained smart and civil three pages into the thread. Long may it continue!

Take care,
PK

[mgoblue]

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Very good point. The DS is technologically inferior to the PSP yet it's killing the PSP at the cash registers because developers are making the most of the dual screens and stylus, and the DS is really selling well to gamers older than 40, some of whom are new to the hobby, and "casual" gamers.

I think Nintendo is banking on the same kind of buying trends with the Wii.

The problem with the analysis of guys like us is that we're myopic because we're hardcore gamers. And for anyone here who claims they're not a hardcore gamer, you're in denial. You're reading and posting at a sports gaming forum. That alone indicates you have more interest in gaming, and spend more time and money on gaming than the average person.

Yes, there are different degrees of hardcore. But you're pretty damn serious about gaming if you're here, and your views of the hobby don't match the majority of the gaming market or those who haven't taken up the hobby, two market segments that Nintendo wants to dominate with the Wii.

Take care,
PK

yeah, that's true...and the DS is a good example, so it will be interesting. I'm just not convinced that Nintendo's strategy that worked with the handhelds can win the console battle, but it is a definite possibility.

[pk500]

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Blue:

I don't think Nintendo will win the battle outright. But I think it stands to be damn close, or at least much more of a player with the Wii than it was with the GameCube, because the Wii has the potential to draw in those who have no interest in gaming.

Think about the phenomenons of Dance Dance Revolution and Guitar Hero. What's the common denominator between both games, both of which swallowed many non-gamers into this hobby? An interactive, immersive peripheral. DDR and Guitar Hero would suck without the dance pad or the guitar controller.

Nintendo is banking on that kind of phenomenon happening with the Wiimote, especially if it can develop popular adult games for the Wii such as Nintendogs and Brain Age for the DS.

Take care,
PK

[aholbert32]

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I'm scratching my head right now to find an advantage of the PS3. Can anyone help me?

Take care,
PK

Bluray and their exclusives like MGS and Gran Turismo. I have no plans to ever by the PS3 but I have no doubt that this will be the hot system this winter.

[23]

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I dont think they are trying to win that battle mgo.

Looks to me like they are targeting a specific audience, and not trying to compete in the sense MS and Sony is.

They're jumping in as an alternative to the chicken fighting between those two once people settle down and realize games are made for fun and games.

They throw something a little different in there that will intrigue some people, and make sure the price is sufficient for manageable pocketbooks.

[Victory]

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I'm scratching my head right now to find an advantage of the PS3. Can anyone help me?

Take care,
PK

If you were looking to buy a Blu-Ray player anyway you could get one in the PS3. Also, if you want to go crazy on how much you spend by getting a new TV as well then only the PS3 has 1080p output capability (very minor I think). It also will be able to hold more content on one DVD if this were to become an issue with regular DVDs later in the gen. But there is obviously also the factor on how much people like the exclusives. Sadly, though, I think the biggest advantage it has is that people will buy it because they owned a PS1 and PS2.

[Victor99]

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Even with it's steep price and lack of innovation, the PS3 will still be a war machine this holiday season IMO. Just like the PS2 was several years ago with it's 300 dollar price tag and poor quality launch games. Sony has become the household name for video gaming in North America. I hope the Wii does well and doesn't suffer the same fate that the GC did. That is, being looked at as a cheap gimmick/novelty toy. It won't be easy though, Nintendo has their work cut out for them. All in all though, I'll be passing on both systems. I'm very happy with my 360 and the days of myself owning multiple consoles are over. Just don't have the time or the money.

[pk500]

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Bluray and their exclusives like MGS and Gran Turismo. I have no plans to ever by the PS3 but I have no doubt that this will be the hot system this winter.

Interesting.

I think Blu-Ray is the next Betamax, a failure waiting to happen. And it will be very intriguing to see if people are willing to spend close to 700 bones after tax just so they can play the next Gran Turismo game, especially since the franchise has seen nothing but graphical upgrades since the original was released eight years ago.

Same with Metal Gear. It was THE suspense espionage game to have, but I think Splinter Cell has closed the gap. If Konami was coming off the horrible "Sons of Liberty" to the PS3, then I'd have my doubts. But I've read that "Snake Eater" was much better, even though I didn't play it.

Take care,
PK