Xbox 360 Sells 6 Million Units Worldwide

[Misfit]

Re: Xbox 360 Sells 6 Million Units Worldwide

My stance on warranties is that they're overused. If a product like a video game console breaks over a relatively short period of time (let's say 14 months, or just over a year) due to a poor product then the company at fault should replace the unit for free, warranty or not. If it breaks due to user neglect or some freak accident that no one had control over then that's when a warranty should be required. I only get warranties on big ticket items (TV's, cars, etc) and usually pass on consoles. I had a launch PS2 that had a defective memmory card unit after a year and Sony fixed it for free with no warranty. I'd probably make an exception if I bought a 360 since I know it's prone to breaking and I'll see how the PS3 fairs over its first year of life to determine how reliable it is. I won't get a warranty for the Wii, I've never even had my Gamecube freeze up so I'm not at all concerned about the reliability of a Nintendo console.

[Skyboxer]

Re: Xbox 360 Sells 6 Million Units Worldwide

My stance on warranties is that they're overused. If a product like a video game console breaks over a relatively short period of time (let's say 14 months, or just over a year) due to a poor product then the company at fault should replace the unit for free, warranty or not. If it breaks due to user neglect or some freak accident that no one had control over then that's when a warranty should be required. I only get warranties on big ticket items (TV's, cars, etc) and usually pass on consoles. I had a launch PS2 that had a defective memmory card unit after a year and Sony fixed it for free with no warranty. I'd probably make an exception if I bought a 360 since I know it's prone to breaking and I'll see how the PS3 fairs over its first year of life to determine how reliable it is. I won't get a warranty for the Wii, I've never even had my Gamecube freeze up so I'm not at all concerned about the reliability of a Nintendo console.

14 months! Even my Toshiba TV was only warranted for 90 days without buying an extra warranty.
How could you legally make 1 electronic item over another be scrutinized more in terms of length of warranty.

Lastly:
Replacing/fixing a memory card free after a year being compared to replacing/fixing a system????

Tha only thing I agree with you on is the Nintendo. Never had an issue with thier equipment. However I'm on my Launch 360 with no issues.

[Misfit]

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I wasn't proposing a law, just my own belief on what I feel I'm paying for. Whenever I'm buying a new product I expect it to last at least a year. I don't believe in spending extra on a warranty to cover for the error of a manufacturer. If their product is shoddy then they should either fix it or replace it without me having to spend extra money on a warranty.

[Skyboxer]

Re: Xbox 360 Sells 6 Million Units Worldwide

I wasn't proposing a law, just my own belief on what I feel I'm paying for. Whenever I'm buying a new product I expect it to last at least a year. I don't believe in spending extra on a warranty to cover for the error of a manufacturer. If their product is shoddy then they should either fix it or replace it without me having to spend extra money on a warranty.

It's been a standard for years that the company warranties are 90 days.
I didn't expect Sony to warranty the PSX or PS2 for a year either.
I wish we could trust these items to last for year/s but that's not gonna happen to often. Again unless it's Nintendo. They are pretty darn solid.

[cjonesfan921]

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It's been a standard for years that the company warranties are 90 days.
I didn't expect Sony to warranty the PSX or PS2 for a year either.
I wish we could trust these items to last for year/s but that's not gonna happen to often. Again unless it's Nintendo. They are pretty darn solid.

I took a law class and if the system breaks because of a companies defect then technically you should not pay. If they force you to pay then you can sue them(I know people don't like that) and more then likely they will eventually have to fix it for free. It really goes into the estimated life span of a product. The 360s life span is what I would say maybe 3+years at least. If the product breaks because of a vender defect then why should I pay $100 for them to fix their mistake? Of course if it breaks because of carelessness that's a different story.

[jgo777]

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I just hope the 360 sells well enough to keep MS in the console business. We've all seen what happens when you don't have competition (Madden, MLB2k). Even Sony fans should want the 360 to sell well. You can already see the impact that MS has had on Sony. Does anybody really think Sony would have come up with a whole new online strategy if MS didn't pave the way with XBOX live? I doubt it. As gamers we need MS, Sony and Nintendo to all do well so these companies keep pushing each other. Competition drives innovation. Without it, we'll end up with the console equivalent of MLB2k6.

[Skyboxer]

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I took a law class and if the system breaks because of a companies defect then technically you should not pay. If they force you to pay then you can sue them(I know people don't like that) and more then likely they will eventually have to fix it for free. It really goes into the estimated life span of a product. The 360s life span is what I would say maybe 3+years at least. If the product breaks because of a vender defect then why should I pay $100 for them to fix their mistake? Of course if it breaks because of carelessness that's a different story.

I agree. IF it's a vendor defect. Not if (like my nephews) the 360 is carted around from friend to friends house in a carrying case etc. and it fails, OR if the system is not ventilated properly etc.
There lies the problem. the "My 360 failed" posts but no mention of the rough treatment it received etc.
Sure there are systems that just flat out fail but not all of them have been that way.

[bkfount]

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I just hope the 360 sells well enough to keep MS in the console business. We've all seen what happens when you don't have competition (Madden, MLB2k). Even Sony fans should want the 360 to sell well. You can already see the impact that MS has had on Sony. Does anybody really think Sony would have come up with a whole new online strategy if MS didn't pave the way with XBOX live? I doubt it. As gamers we need MS, Sony and Nintendo to all do well so these companies keep pushing each other. Competition drives innovation. Without it, we'll end up with the console equivalent of MLB2k6.

I've already said this in another topic, but I honestly think MS can push sony out of the industry if they keep this up. Sony is changing their strategy already from what made them number one, and has sunk tons of money into the bleeding edge technology that's in the ps3, and it's not even that much better than the 360. MS is already a year ahead in terms of game generations. Combine that with lazy corporate developers, and we probably won't actually see many games with a huge difference between PS3 and 360 versions. MS will probably also be the first to put out the next console, before the ps3 starts turning a nice profit. MS can do what Reagan did to the soviets, outspend them to death. Sony will not last a war of attrition.

[Behindshadows]

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I've already said this in another topic, but I honestly think MS can push sony out of the industry if they keep this up. Sony is changing their strategy already from what made them number one, and has sunk tons of money into the bleeding edge technology that's in the ps3, and it's not even that much better than the 360. MS is already a year ahead in terms of game generations. Combine that with lazy corporate developers, and we probably won't actually see many games with a huge difference between PS3 and 360 versions. MS will probably also be the first to put out the next console, before the ps3 starts turning a nice profit. MS can do what Reagan did to the soviets, outspend them to death. Sony will not last a war of attrition.

lol....some of your points are so true....

But M$ are only lazy in certain aspects...1. Backwards Compatible features are horrid...(none of the games we really want are on that list.)

2. They can do so much with the dashboard, but still leave us with mere limits.

Other than that...they are pretty strong in every other department.

I will believe and I hope Sony is a contender. Even though I know in the end. Blu-Ray will destroy them They should have pulled a M$ and just gave us the option to buy the drive seperate....plus I think some other things sony is doing is going to leave them cold.

But they have an exclusive lineup that will make the fans buy their console and hopefully that will keep them alive the first couple of years.

But you right, I think Microsoft will walk off victorious....But honestly they deserve it...for the most part, their system has delivered some nice stuff in just 11months...Imagine what it will do, in the upcoming year....if Gears of Wars, Double Agent, RB6, Test Drive, GRAW, NBA 2k7, Dead Rising, Saint's Row, and others are just the beginning....

Then the continuation of this type of quality gaming, is only going to get better....and more fun, for the consumers...

[Erv]

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the sales to me still show the same people who bought xbox are buying the 360, and not much beyond that. Wow that's impressive not. Why do you think MS abandoned the xbox in the first place? At this pace it's going to do around the same business as the first xbox, HARDLY ideal for MS. Now I do expect the PS3 to fall off some, but I expect the Wii, NOT the 360, to take it's spot. Nintendo could drop the price to a mainstream level on a dime and they have better support than the gamecube.

[Rodster]

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the sales to me still show the same people who bought xbox are buying the 360, and not much beyond that. Wow that's impressive not. Why do you think MS abandoned the xbox in the first place?

Microsoft moved on from the Xbox for 2 reasons only:

1) They did not own any of the hardware in the Xbox so as the price dropped on the system they still had to pay nvidia and AMD their cut. In the end the loses were greater with the price reductions.

2) They wanted the jump on Sony and they wanted COMPLETE control of the hardware. They got both with the 360. Developers began to develop first for the 360 and now the PS3 will forever be compared to the 360 if their games don't look better.

I think you're wrong IMO with the 360 selling to the Xbox crowd only. There are many on this board alone that made the 360 purchase after owning a PS3. The 360 has suffered sales wise what most consoles have experienced in the past especially the PS2.

With every console you get your initial rush and then sales slow down because of the high price tag. Also gamers are now waiting for the PS3 and Wee to show up. That has an effect on 360 sales. When the 360 sees it's first price drop sales will get another bump. It was no different with the PS2, each time Sony dropped the price the PS2 sold like crazy.

[CaptainZombie]

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Microsoft moved on from the Xbox for 2 reasons only:

1) They did not own any of the hardware in the Xbox so as the price dropped on the system they still had to pay nvidia and AMD their cut. In the end the loses were greater with the price reductions.

2) They wanted the jump on Sony and they wanted COMPLETE control of the hardware. They got both with the 360. Developers began to develop first for the 360 and now the PS3 will forever be compared to the 360 if their games don't look better.

I think you're wrong IMO with the 360 selling to the Xbox crowd only. There are many on this board alone that made the 360 purchase after owning a PS3. The 360 has suffered sales wise what most consoles have experienced in the past especially the PS2.

With every console you get your initial rush and then sales slow down because of the high price tag. Also gamers are now waiting for the PS3 and Wee to show up. That has an effect on 360 sales. When the 360 sees it's first price drop sales will get another bump. It was no different with the PS2, each time Sony dropped the price the PS2 sold like crazy.

I expect a 360 sales increase sooner than a price drop. I think once people can't get the PS3 or the Wii this holiday season, their only other alternative will be the 360.

One of the reasons why the PS2 is still selling so well is that the system as towards the end of it's life cycle. With it being towards the end, there are many great games left for people to pickup like MLB06, Scarface, Bully, FFXII, GH2, Okami, and many titles that still have to release. There are people out there on a daily basis that are buying PS2's since they got rid of them when the 360 came out to fund that system and now that some of the big titles are coming out than they want to play them. At $129 a pop for the PS2, the system is selling well due to people want to play these games.

[Misfit]

Re: Xbox 360 Sells 6 Million Units Worldwide

I've already said this in another topic, but I honestly think MS can push sony out of the industry if they keep this up. Sony is changing their strategy already from what made them number one, and has sunk tons of money into the bleeding edge technology that's in the ps3, and it's not even that much better than the 360. MS is already a year ahead in terms of game generations. Combine that with lazy corporate developers, and we probably won't actually see many games with a huge difference between PS3 and 360 versions. MS will probably also be the first to put out the next console, before the ps3 starts turning a nice profit. MS can do what Reagan did to the soviets, outspend them to death. Sony will not last a war of attrition.

There's no dneying the MS has more money than Sony, but Sony isn't a small company and certainly has enough capital to compete and compete for a long while. They've had a record setting year at the box office with Sony Pictures and they're other products still sell well. Blu Ray may never be a success but it won't bankrupt them as they've survived worse things. The video game industry is typically pretty loyal to whoever holds market share until the leader screws up big time. The PS3 has generated a buzz and that alone will carry it for a long while. If quality titles are in short supply or the hardware is shoddy then MS will have its opportunity to cash in and dethrone Sony.

[HMcCoy]

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6 million without a single mainstream system-seller is pretty good, IMO. No Halo, no Resident Evil, no GTAIII.

Over 100k Blue Dragon 360 units pre-sold in 24 hours in Japan...games sell systems. With GOW and an awesome wrasslin' title, 360 should have a really good holiday. Same should happen with the exclusive next-gen soccer titles in Europe.

[Erv]

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Microsoft moved on from the Xbox for 2 reasons only:

1) They did not own any of the hardware in the Xbox so as the price dropped on the system they still had to pay nvidia and AMD their cut. In the end the loses were greater with the price reductions.

2) They wanted the jump on Sony and they wanted COMPLETE control of the hardware. They got both with the 360. Developers began to develop first for the 360 and now the PS3 will forever be compared to the 360 if their games don't look better.

I think you're wrong IMO with the 360 selling to the Xbox crowd only. There are many on this board alone that made the 360 purchase after owning a PS3. The 360 has suffered sales wise what most consoles have experienced in the past especially the PS2.

With every console you get your initial rush and then sales slow down because of the high price tag. Also gamers are now waiting for the PS3 and Wee to show up. That has an effect on 360 sales. When the 360 sees it's first price drop sales will get another bump. It was no different with the PS2, each time Sony dropped the price the PS2 sold like crazy.

As far as the xbox crowd we won't get a clearer picture until the years sales are done. 250K a month without direct competition isn't a good sign, because that's going to decrease once the other two are fully availble. While price is a factor in the lower sales, MS should have a better brand name than when the first xbox was released.

The PS2 was blowing up at the equivalent point of it's lifespan, the 360(or any system really) can't come close to what it did with MGS2, GTA 3 DMC etc...which is when it took off and never looked back.