The Last of Us (PS3)

[Brandwin]

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Got the game last Friday and I completed the part where they are at the Docks. I haven't played game since then. I sort of lost interest. The battles are similiar to what you see in GTA (nothing too exciting or out of the ordinary) Does the game pick up after the Docks?

I know how to throw the bricks but not really sure how to use them as a weapon. So far, I've just been wasting bullets and strangling guys.

As far as the battles, no they are somewhat the same. Run into Infected, figure out how to get from point A to point B. Run into humans figure out how to get from point A to point B. Some compare it to Uncharted series (which I've only played the first one) but the human enemies are smart, so it makes the battles a bit different every time. You don't have to fight anyone if you don't want to, there are different options from getting from point A to point B. Is that what has turned you off?

As far as bricks and bottles, you can throw them at people or use them as a melee weapon.

I love the game, the environments, the searching for supplies, the voice acting, the story and the battles, even if they are a bit repetitive.

[cusefan74]

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Got the game last Friday and I completed the part where they are at the Docks. I haven't played game since then. I sort of lost interest. The battles are similiar to what you see in GTA (nothing too exciting or out of the ordinary) Does the game pick up after the Docks?

I know how to throw the bricks but not really sure how to use them as a weapon. So far, I've just been wasting bullets and strangling guys.

The story itself keeps you moving through the game, at least for me. I think the story is great. The building new weapons, searching for stuff, trying to find ways through were you are, all of it is great.

[Kramer5150]

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Thanks. I had one more thought for now.

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I've heard a lot of speculation about the reason people believe Ellie was so quite and short with Joel at the beginning of Spring. Again, I've read multiple times that some took it as her "knowing" that death was a possibility to save mankind at the lab.

But think about how Spring starts.

Ellie is staring at the drawing of a deer when Joel is trying to say sometimg to her (which she isn't paying attention to).

Joel finally has to say, "Ellie! Did you hear me?!"

To me, the depiction of a deer here is significant. In Winter, we play as Ellie as she's on her hunt. She and Joel are literally starving (remember, she apologizes when she returns to him with only the medication and the rabbit).

Joel is on the brink of death. And the way she handles that bow (and tracks the deer) tells me this isn't the first time she's scavenged the woods before. Remember, there's a time lapse between Fall and Winter.

And I'm still of the belief that on that hunt, David tried to rape her. She was imprisoned, nearly molested, nearly killed and nearly raped.

That deer drawing seemed to signify her loosing her innocence.

I think she was distraught over this, not the idea that she MIGHT die at the lab.

Anyway, just my two cents on why she she so distant before the giraffes.

Another great insight...damn dude,you're killing me here. I never once thought about it in that way....that's another testament to this game's beauty.....so many underlying tones,and one that makes you think even after the end.

I can see this game will be talked about for quite some time,it is really like a movie...in that maybe at 1st somethings don't quite make sense,but you watch it again,and it slowly starts to make sense.

[TeddyKGB]

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In reply to Heroesandvillains' ending analysis...

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Ellie was definitely complicit in the lie at the end. You could tell that she was skeptical, and that it bothered her on some level, but ultimately I think she was acceptant because 1) it relieves her of an enormous burden that I'm not convinced she wanted to carry and 2) she trusts Joel's decision, even if he's lying to her.

I also don't feel like Joel was the bad guy. To me, getting from Point A (essentially cutting out Ellie's brain) to Point Z (producing and distributing an anti-virus) seemed like fantasy, especially given the lack of facilities, supplies, and scientists. Is the infinitesimal chance that an anti-virus could be extracted, reverse-engineered, tested, replicated, and distributed by a rag-tag group of survivors on-the-run really something that any of us would be willing to sacrifice someone we cared about for?

At the end of the day I think it's one of those situations where both sides were righteous, but since we followed Joel's story, naturally I'm inclined to side with him.

Sometimes you have to lie to protect the ones you love. That's pretty much the bottom line for me.

[Jasong7777]

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I'm only 58% done, and I can already tell that i'll be needing some therapy after i'm done.

I think this might be the best game that I have ever played. Definitely is the game of this generation.

[Picci]

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So what was Ellie up to before she met Joel? Released today, The Last of Us comic book!

Trust us when we say that American Dreams doesn’t spoil any of the story found in The Last of Us game, and instead gives you a great introduction to Ellie and her life as told through events inside the quarantine zone taking place prior to the game.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/04/05/the-last-of-us-american-dreams-comic-book-issue-1-out-now/

I'm at 44% complete/ 9 hours + and near insanity playing this game.

[Russell_SCEA]

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Thanks. I had one more thought for now.

Spoiler

I've heard a lot of speculation about the reason people believe Ellie was so quite and short with Joel at the beginning of Spring. Again, I've read multiple times that some took it as her "knowing" that death was a possibility to save mankind at the lab.

But think about how Spring starts.

Ellie is staring at the drawing of a deer when Joel is trying to say sometimg to her (which she isn't paying attention to).

Joel finally has to say, "Ellie! Did you hear me?!"

To me, the depiction of a deer here is significant. In Winter, we play as Ellie as she's on her hunt. She and Joel are literally starving (remember, she apologizes when she returns to him with only the medication and the rabbit).

Joel is on the brink of death. And the way she handles that bow (and tracks the deer) tells me this isn't the first time she's scavenged the woods before. Remember, there's a time lapse between Fall and Winter.

And I'm still of the belief that on that hunt, David tried to rape her. She was imprisoned, nearly molested, nearly killed and nearly raped.

That deer drawing seemed to signify her loosing her innocence.

I think she was distraught over this, not the idea that she MIGHT die at the lab.

Anyway, just my two cents on why she she so distant before the giraffes.

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For my money she was suffering from PTSD after Winter and what she did to that guys face with the machete all her innocence was gone from that moment.

Elle had already been through a lot but what took place in Winter was the straw that broke the camels back. She was dead inside after that and she regained a little bit of her humanity when she saw the giraffes walking about.

[Heroesandvillains]

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In reply to Heroesandvillains' ending analysis...

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Ellie was definitely complicit in the lie at the end. You could tell that she was skeptical, and that it bothered her on some level, but ultimately I think she was acceptant because 1) it relieves her of an enormous burden that I'm not convinced she wanted to carry and 2) she trusts Joel's decision, even if he's lying to her.

I also don't feel like Joel was the bad guy. To me, getting from Point A (essentially cutting out Ellie's brain) to Point Z (producing and distributing an anti-virus) seemed like fantasy, especially given the lack of facilities, supplies, and scientists. Is the infinitesimal chance that an anti-virus could be extracted, reverse-engineered, tested, replicated, and distributed by a rag-tag group of survivors on-the-run really something that any of us would be willing to sacrifice someone we cared about for?

At the end of the day I think it's one of those situations where both sides were righteous, but since we followed Joel's story, naturally I'm inclined to side with him.

Sometimes you have to lie to protect the ones you love. That's pretty much the bottom line for me.

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Absolutely.

My favorite is how she nods her head just a split second before saying "okay."

It's like even her subconscience wouldn't even allow her to face the fact that there was clearly more to the story than Joel was telling her.

Your analysis reminds me of just how nuts the Fireflies really are.

They request for/essentially kid nap/decide to murder a little girl without her consent for a plan that had no guarentee to work.

I just caught another line of Ellie's as they're making their way back to the lab.

Ellie said, "Once we're done (at the lab), we'll go wherever you want. Okay?"

She had no idea what was about to come.

I imagine myself in that situation. Let's replace Ellie with my fiancé. I'd do whatever it took to save her.

In my opinion Joel is a hero. He'd sacrafice mankind to save her. I'm not saying it's not a hard call, but how could anyone justify killing a little girl? You know what I mean?

I like your analysis as well and agree with it too.

[Heroesandvillains]

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For my money she was suffering from PTSD after Winter and what she did to that guys face with the machete all her innocence was gone from that moment.

Elle had already been through a lot but what took place in Winter was the straw that broke the camels back. She was dead inside after that and she regained a little bit of her humanity when she saw the giraffes walking about.

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Definitely.

I think she hit David with the machete like 6 or 7 times.

PTSD is a perfect way to phrase it.

She was nearly raped and killed, all the while having to practically take a guy's face off in order to save herself.

Pretty powerful stuff.

[Sports fanantic]

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Thanks to all of you guys who are analyzing every detailed that made this story great. Really appreciated!

[wesman94]

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Also I'd like to add some additional analysis

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What Joel did wasn't at all selfish, considering this is post-apocalypse, where all forms of order and justice don't really exist anymore, and is everyone for themselves. The Fireflies weren't out for the good of humanity, they just wanted to gain power and influence over others. Even if they found a cure, who says they'd use it for everyone, and not just for themselves so they can be immune while everyone else is screwed? Joel's actions, while in context of the real world, are wrong, but in context of the game's world, were totally okay and acceptable. Remember the saying that Ellie would say from the comic book, "Endure and Survive"? That's all he was trying to do, just as the Fireflies, the Hunters, the Military, and the Survivors were.

[Mabster]

It took me roughly 22-23 hours to finish but I REALLY searched for the collectibles and outside of missing 2 firefly pendants I got everything else it appears.

Impressive scrounging.

Do I remember right, you had a worry early on that the game had miss counted one of your collectibles? That get sorted out?

[Heroesandvillains]

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Also I'd like to add some additional analysis

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What Joel did wasn't at all selfish, considering this is post-apocalypse, where all forms of order and justice don't really exist anymore, and is everyone for themselves. The Fireflies weren't out for the good of humanity, they just wanted to gain power and influence over others. Even if they found a cure, who says they'd use it for everyone, and not just for themselves so they can be immune while everyone else is screwed? Joel's actions, while in context of the real world, are wrong, but in context of the game's world, were totally okay and acceptable. Remember the saying that Ellie would say from the comic book, "Endure and Survive"? That's all he was trying to do, just as the Fireflies, the Hunters, the Military, and the Survivors were.

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That's a great point. It's not like the Fireflies are on great terms with FEDRA. Who's to say they would have openly shared the vaccine even had they created it?

To this post I would agree. I wouldn't call them a terrorist group but they've proven their willingness to kill people representing the government (whether as a defense or not). And Ellie as well without her consent.

[AC]

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Only for those who have reached fall:

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I'm watching an LP of this as I can't get it myself, but WOW HOLY CRAP the part when Henry and Sam die. That got me. That was horrifying.. I can't even describe it. ****ing horrible.

[LingeringRegime]

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Only for those who have reached fall:

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I'm watching an LP of this as I can't get it myself, but WOW HOLY CRAP the part when Henry and Sam die. That got me. That was horrifying.. I can't even describe it. ****ing horrible.

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I agree. When I was playing my jaw hit the floor. It was a shock when Henry shot himself in the head. One of the most jarring moments from a game I can ever remember. Really paints the picture of sheer hopelessness in that world.