Call Of Duty: Black Ops 2

[Dog]

i dont care if its a strategic spot, unless its the objective like A or B or HQ, thats camping.you can walk around a nice little area, but not a room and not a pathway.maybe if theres a pathway go to where people are coming from, then to where they are going, but dont just get in there path, go look for them, its camping if your waiting for someone instead of looking for them.i'm not talking about going prone at a corner or door, just one narrow pathway with maybe a room to the side is camping.even if it isnt camping, its still annoying, go and look for people, my k/d is 1.08 now from running and gunning, so i'm not good at it but i'm having fun and its above 1,

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[Champion8877]

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I don't thunk the maps are cramped myself. I would rather have them a little smaller to get more action. Does it really matter anyways? When you get a big map you only get heavy traffic in one or two areas anyways. I think the they are really nice, and have yet to play one that I "hate". Every CoD before this there was always one map at least that I hated. On MW3 there was one map I refused to play, I don't remember which one because I haven't played that game in months, but I hated it.

I like small maps as well. I loved all of CoD4's maps, which were all medium-smaller sized. I loved dome on WaW, I loved Summit and Firing Range on Blops1, and I loved Scrapyard and Sub Base on mw2.

It isn't the size of the Blops2 maps that bother me, it is the way they are laid out and the fact that there are hardly any choke points or main routes. Every spot on every map has 3 or 4 flanks it seems. Especially a map like Express, god that map is ridiculous, I cannot put a streak together there if my life depended on it. Everywhere you go there are 5 other routes to get there that the enemy can come from.

I don't know, hopefully the maps grow on me, but right now I hate mostly all of them.

[cusefan74]

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Just because you don't play that way and aren't smart enough to stop running through that same spot getting killed, doesn't mean it's cheese for someone else to do it. If they can get there, so can you

That's what I was gonna say.

i dont care if its a strategic spot, unless its the objective like A or B or HQ, thats camping.you can walk around a nice little area, but not a room and not a pathway.maybe if theres a pathway go to where people are coming from, then to where they are going, but dont just get in there path, go look for them, its camping if your waiting for someone instead of looking for them.i'm not talking about going prone at a corner or door, just one narrow pathway with maybe a room to the side is camping.even if it isnt camping, its still annoying, go and look for people, my k/d is 1.08 now from running and gunning, so i'm not good at it but i'm having fun and its above 1

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Not every one plays like you. Some guns are not made to run and gun with. I like to use the FAL, but it is hard to run n gun with that. It's hard to get kills at all doing that with that gun. I don't think it's camping when I sit in a window and watch the center of the map where all the action is happening. I call that smart. Why is it that people that don't run n gun get criticized? People like me, who doesn't do that every game never has a problem with the people that do run n gun every game.

[Dos_Santos]

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I like small maps as well. I loved all of CoD4's maps, which were all medium-smaller sized. I loved dome on WaW, I loved Summit and Firing Range on Blops1, and I loved Scrapyard and Sub Base on mw2.

It isn't the size of the Blops2 maps that bother me, it is the way they are laid out and the fact that there are hardly any choke points or main routes. Every spot on every map has 3 or 4 flanks it seems. Especially a map like Express, god that map is ridiculous, I cannot put a streak together there if my life depended on it. Everywhere you go there are 5 other routes to get there that the enemy can come from.

I don't know, hopefully the maps grow on me, but right now I hate mostly all of them.

I truly believe the maps were designed with the sole purpose of evening out the skill level of the players.

COD is such a sales juggernaut and cultural phenomenon that they are trying not to alienate their largest sales base....the casual, not very skilled player.

I don't agree with but can understand their thought process.

[killerx2]

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That's what I was gonna say.


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Not every one plays like you. Some guns are not made to run and gun with. I like to use the FAL, but it is hard to run n gun with that. It's hard to get kills at all doing that with that gun. I don't think it's camping when I sit in a window and watch the center of the map where all the action is happening. I call that smart. Why is it that people that don't run n gun get criticized? People like me, who doesn't do that every game never has a problem with the people that do run n gun every game.

i think you all misunderstood or i misworded my statement, i'm talking about people behind a trashcan in a pathway and people who patrol a narrow 10 foot pathway and say they arent camping, i tried not to quote anyway so i dont accidentally accuse the wrong person, patroling a hotspot is ok, but some people consider a hotspot an extremely small, narrow place.and yes, people go crazy complaining about campers when most " campers" just walked by a room and noticed someone outside the window for 2 seconds.but i just really hate people who say they arent camping when they are, based on all you "campers" descriptions of what you do, you really arent camping... it still annoys me though since i'm grumpy and everything grinds my gears... but that's my fault.sorry for the misunderstanding.

[Kearnzo]

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I like small maps as well. I loved all of CoD4's maps, which were all medium-smaller sized. I loved dome on WaW, I loved Summit and Firing Range on Blops1, and I loved Scrapyard and Sub Base on mw2.

It isn't the size of the Blops2 maps that bother me, it is the way they are laid out and the fact that there are hardly any choke points or main routes. Every spot on every map has 3 or 4 flanks it seems. Especially a map like Express, god that map is ridiculous, I cannot put a streak together there if my life depended on it. Everywhere you go there are 5 other routes to get there that the enemy can come from.

I don't know, hopefully the maps grow on me, but right now I hate mostly all of them.

Gah, I freakin hate Express. I do so awful on that map for some reason. To be successful, I find myself needing to stay on the opposite side of the map from the trains.

[mpbaseball22]

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In my recent games it says i lose every game. It says in one domination game i lost 0-4350. Maybe this is why my W/L is so low..

[cusefan74]

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i think you all misunderstood or i misworded my statement, i'm talking about people behind a trashcan in a pathway and people who patrol a narrow 10 foot pathway and say they arent camping, i tried not to quote anyway so i dont accidentally accuse the wrong person, patroling a hotspot is ok, but some people consider a hotspot an extremely small, narrow place.and yes, people go crazy complaining about campers when most " campers" just walked by a room and noticed someone outside the window for 2 seconds.but i just really hate people who say they arent camping when they are, based on all you "campers" descriptions of what you do, you really arent camping... it still annoys me though since i'm grumpy and everything grinds my gears... but that's my fault.sorry for the misunderstanding.

I understand what you are saying now, and you are right, it is annoying when they do that.

[AUChase]

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IMO, there aren't too many good guns.

There's a handful of powerful weapons and then there's the rest.

Also, every team I've been on tonight has been getting their *** kicked. I feel like I'm the only one getting after the objective. Everyone else is off in lala land doing some other bull ****.

[BattleBornLV]

IMO, there aren't too many good guns.

There's a handful of powerful weapons and then there's the rest.

Also, every team I've been on tonight has been getting their *** kicked. I feel like I'm the only one getting after the objective. Everyone else is off in lala land doing some other bull ****.

That's the same way it has been for me today also. I don't know what the hell they are doing but wanting to win the match obviously isn't what they're doing.

[cusefan74]

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That's the same way it has been for me today also. I don't know what the hell they are doing but wanting to win the match obviously isn't what they're doing.

That's why I stopped playing domination. No one was trying to win, they were just killing people. So I started playing team deathmatch.

[BattleBornLV]

That's why I stopped playing domination. No one was trying to win, they were just killing people. So I started playing team deathmatch.

Same here. I won't play domination unless it's with a full party of friends.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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Domination is meant to be played after midnight. That is where I find people who actually play it the right way. During the day time, it be full of kids treating it like TDM. And yeah the guns are pretty lame this year as a whole. Not enough variety of effectiveness.

To me, the only assault rifle worth a damn is the FAL

Only submachine is the MSC something.....

Shotguns.....default one. Over all shotguns are hell of weak this year. I miss my double barrel one from last year or the year before.

Specials......lame and not worth the time

Lethal - bouncing betty or claymore.

Tactical - black hat all day.

So yeah......this game is a perfect example of when you try to even the playing field for all connections and skill levels is a bad thing. I remember in the past there was very distinct weapons. You had your really powerful, your medium and then your weak but rapid fire fast.

This year.....everything is just medium to slightly below medium. Hand guns ? I don't even bother with them this year, don't like any of them. This year they made the game too pick up n play friendly.

[AUChase]

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I always use the two primary perk and carry a shotgun with everything.

I love the 870 in BF3, so I use it in this game.. it's a good gun in CQ

[bukktown]

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I can't shoot jack squat with the shotgun. I'm always shooting at where the guy was .5 seconds ago because of the comp. Same goes for knife kills.