Campfire --- You are the Serial Killer(s) - this one makes GTA look...

[SonicMage]

Re: Campfire --- You are the Serial Killer(s) - this one makes GTA look...

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I meant challenge for the developers, not for the gamers.

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Makes even less sense. I know you claim to be in the industry or getting into it, but how can you say the making of a title of Campground is not challenging? You been over to Sweeden to follow the development of the game?

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Creatively challenging. I read through a chapter in a book on game design highlighting how Centipede came about. The creators of that game were truly brilliant. They came up with the perfect combination of features to offer the best competition for the player. Or think Tetris, beautiful in its simplicity yet addictive in gameplay. You play that game enough and you actually RAISE your IQ. How much better can you get? I'd like to see something that blows me over like that, but in a modern style.

Thisll be my last post on this because Ill save some room for anybody else who wants to talk about the game.

I just felt like saying something because I saw something resembling, "Wow, this is an interesting idea". No, its not, its just as trite as weve been seeing lately.

[HealyMonster]

Re: Campfire --- You are the Serial Killer(s) - this one makes GTA look...

man this game looks cool, i always wanted them to come out with a halloween game where u can be michael myers or friday the 13th where u can be jason. if this game rocks hopefully developers will take the idea and add it to one of the classic horror movies and make a good game out of it.

[HealyMonster]

Re: Campfire --- You are the Serial Killer(s) - this one makes GTA look...

man this game looks cool, i always wanted them to come out with a halloween game where u can be michael myers or friday the 13th where u can be jason. if this game rocks hopefully developers will take the idea and add it to one of the classic horror movies and make a good game out of it.

[HealyMonster]

Re: Campfire --- You are the Serial Killer(s) - this one makes GTA look...

man this game looks cool, i always wanted them to come out with a halloween game where u can be michael myers or friday the 13th where u can be jason. if this game rocks hopefully developers will take the idea and add it to one of the classic horror movies and make a good game out of it.

[JohnDoe8865]

Re: Campfire --- You are the Serial Killer(s) - this one makes GTA look...

I must be in it for the mindless drivel then, because I like it. Between this game, Manhunt, and The Suffering, I'm starting to see some non-sports titles that are truly interesting to me.

I grew tired of he cartoon looking kills and such in the GTA series. I want a game that is visually realistic, while incorporating audio that is important to the game, ala Manhunt (made by GTA devs, we'll see how realistic it looks, but I have hope). I am also searching for more games that evoke a sense of emotion. Whether it be happiness, sadness, fear, power, greed, shame, etc.

I'm looking forward to seeing more "immersive" games and games like Campfire and Manhunt have the *potential* to do that.

[JohnDoe8865]

Re: Campfire --- You are the Serial Killer(s) - this one makes GTA look...

I must be in it for the mindless drivel then, because I like it. Between this game, Manhunt, and The Suffering, I'm starting to see some non-sports titles that are truly interesting to me.

I grew tired of he cartoon looking kills and such in the GTA series. I want a game that is visually realistic, while incorporating audio that is important to the game, ala Manhunt (made by GTA devs, we'll see how realistic it looks, but I have hope). I am also searching for more games that evoke a sense of emotion. Whether it be happiness, sadness, fear, power, greed, shame, etc.

I'm looking forward to seeing more "immersive" games and games like Campfire and Manhunt have the *potential* to do that.

[JohnDoe8865]

Re: Campfire --- You are the Serial Killer(s) - this one makes GTA look...

I must be in it for the mindless drivel then, because I like it. Between this game, Manhunt, and The Suffering, I'm starting to see some non-sports titles that are truly interesting to me.

I grew tired of he cartoon looking kills and such in the GTA series. I want a game that is visually realistic, while incorporating audio that is important to the game, ala Manhunt (made by GTA devs, we'll see how realistic it looks, but I have hope). I am also searching for more games that evoke a sense of emotion. Whether it be happiness, sadness, fear, power, greed, shame, etc.

I'm looking forward to seeing more "immersive" games and games like Campfire and Manhunt have the *potential* to do that.

[SPTO]

Re: Campfire --- You are the Serial Killer(s) - this one makes GTA look...

Hrm interesting concept for a game. I'm more on sonicmage's point of view however I also know that videogames aren't JUST for kids.

Nonetheless I don't know if this is my type of game. I suppose i'd have to see more of it to really tell. It also depends on the execution of the game and how it plays out. It's good to see that developers still take risks in a society that condemns games rightly or wrongly. (sometimes I think they condemn the industry too much but that's a whole other kettle of fish)

[SPTO]

Re: Campfire --- You are the Serial Killer(s) - this one makes GTA look...

Hrm interesting concept for a game. I'm more on sonicmage's point of view however I also know that videogames aren't JUST for kids.

Nonetheless I don't know if this is my type of game. I suppose i'd have to see more of it to really tell. It also depends on the execution of the game and how it plays out. It's good to see that developers still take risks in a society that condemns games rightly or wrongly. (sometimes I think they condemn the industry too much but that's a whole other kettle of fish)

[SPTO]

Re: Campfire --- You are the Serial Killer(s) - this one makes GTA look...

Hrm interesting concept for a game. I'm more on sonicmage's point of view however I also know that videogames aren't JUST for kids.

Nonetheless I don't know if this is my type of game. I suppose i'd have to see more of it to really tell. It also depends on the execution of the game and how it plays out. It's good to see that developers still take risks in a society that condemns games rightly or wrongly. (sometimes I think they condemn the industry too much but that's a whole other kettle of fish)

[caseyd]

Re: Campfire --- You are the Serial Killer(s) - this one makes GTA look...

I think I'm with Sonic on this one. Just my personal opinion, but I don't see what good can come of a game where you're pretending to be a serial killer. Never understood the fascination with Grand Theft Auto either. I played it a couple of times, and the levels are interesting, but the concept of killing people for the fun of it just doesn't appeal to me. It may be hypocritical of me since I've liked games, i.e Splinter Cell, where people get killed, but it's the mindless killing involved in a GTA or this game (where there doesn't seem to be a valid reason for doing it) that I don't agree with. I guess videogame violence is just one of those issues with a lot of gray area. Again, this is just my opinion.

[caseyd]

Re: Campfire --- You are the Serial Killer(s) - this one makes GTA look...

I think I'm with Sonic on this one. Just my personal opinion, but I don't see what good can come of a game where you're pretending to be a serial killer. Never understood the fascination with Grand Theft Auto either. I played it a couple of times, and the levels are interesting, but the concept of killing people for the fun of it just doesn't appeal to me. It may be hypocritical of me since I've liked games, i.e Splinter Cell, where people get killed, but it's the mindless killing involved in a GTA or this game (where there doesn't seem to be a valid reason for doing it) that I don't agree with. I guess videogame violence is just one of those issues with a lot of gray area. Again, this is just my opinion.

[caseyd]

Re: Campfire --- You are the Serial Killer(s) - this one makes GTA look...

I think I'm with Sonic on this one. Just my personal opinion, but I don't see what good can come of a game where you're pretending to be a serial killer. Never understood the fascination with Grand Theft Auto either. I played it a couple of times, and the levels are interesting, but the concept of killing people for the fun of it just doesn't appeal to me. It may be hypocritical of me since I've liked games, i.e Splinter Cell, where people get killed, but it's the mindless killing involved in a GTA or this game (where there doesn't seem to be a valid reason for doing it) that I don't agree with. I guess videogame violence is just one of those issues with a lot of gray area. Again, this is just my opinion.

[SportsorDeath]

Re: Campfire --- You are the Serial Killer(s) - this one makes GTA look...

I applaud the developer for coming up with this idea. I don't see anything wrong with this kind of game. If there can be horror movies, why not horror games with the same type of themes?

Ohhhh, right, video games are still a children's toy. Shhhh...don't tell anyone that more adults play video games than kids nowadays. You wouldn't want to make all those ignorant politicians look like idiots.

The way I see it, the more games the merrier. If a particular game, or genre, isn't your cup of tea, don't play it. It doesn't get much simpler than that.

As far as Sonicimage being "tired" of the GTA type games, where killing and committing crimes is a prevalant theme, all I can say is that its been a long time coming. It took major balls by Rockstar to release GTA 3, especially considering all the finger pointers were still on their witch hunt to blame movies, games and other forms of entertainment for incidents like Columbine, as well as the fact that 9-11 had just occurred a month before release.

People had obviously been wanting a game like GTA. The sales numbers speak for themselves. Why? People were tired of always being the good guy. Rescuing the princess from some evil baddie got stale after 20 years.

If you want to hate on games like this because they are part of a trend, then why not all those games before GTA that did it? Don't remember all the Street Fighter clones that popped up in the mid 90's? Those sure didn't seem to have much "educational value" to me.

Look at movies. Isn't just about everything you see either a sequel or a modernized, rehashed version of something we have already seen several times? They are running out of ideas, man. Games aren't any different. Any time a game comes out that basically revolutionizes the industry, you can be sure that the floodgates will open for countless imitators. That's just the way it is, like it or not.

As for this serial killer game, I am real interested in the concept at least. I was actually thinking recently that I would love for someone to make a Halloween game, where you could choose to play as a hero (Laurie Strode, Dr. Loomis, maybe even Jamie) hunting Michael Myers, or play as Myers himself.

It is fine to have morals. Just because a lot of us would love to play a serial killer game doesn't mean we are without any, either. I for one am happy that the GTA series opened the door for more "risky" games to be introduced into the marketplace. I would rather have as many options as I possibly can when it comes to gaming than have the same crap I have been playing since I was 7 continue to be spoon fed to me in a shiny new package.

If you are interested, sonic, eb games has used copies of Donkey Kong Jr. Math for $9.99 each.

[SportsorDeath]

Re: Campfire --- You are the Serial Killer(s) - this one makes GTA look...

I applaud the developer for coming up with this idea. I don't see anything wrong with this kind of game. If there can be horror movies, why not horror games with the same type of themes?

Ohhhh, right, video games are still a children's toy. Shhhh...don't tell anyone that more adults play video games than kids nowadays. You wouldn't want to make all those ignorant politicians look like idiots.

The way I see it, the more games the merrier. If a particular game, or genre, isn't your cup of tea, don't play it. It doesn't get much simpler than that.

As far as Sonicimage being "tired" of the GTA type games, where killing and committing crimes is a prevalant theme, all I can say is that its been a long time coming. It took major balls by Rockstar to release GTA 3, especially considering all the finger pointers were still on their witch hunt to blame movies, games and other forms of entertainment for incidents like Columbine, as well as the fact that 9-11 had just occurred a month before release.

People had obviously been wanting a game like GTA. The sales numbers speak for themselves. Why? People were tired of always being the good guy. Rescuing the princess from some evil baddie got stale after 20 years.

If you want to hate on games like this because they are part of a trend, then why not all those games before GTA that did it? Don't remember all the Street Fighter clones that popped up in the mid 90's? Those sure didn't seem to have much "educational value" to me.

Look at movies. Isn't just about everything you see either a sequel or a modernized, rehashed version of something we have already seen several times? They are running out of ideas, man. Games aren't any different. Any time a game comes out that basically revolutionizes the industry, you can be sure that the floodgates will open for countless imitators. That's just the way it is, like it or not.

As for this serial killer game, I am real interested in the concept at least. I was actually thinking recently that I would love for someone to make a Halloween game, where you could choose to play as a hero (Laurie Strode, Dr. Loomis, maybe even Jamie) hunting Michael Myers, or play as Myers himself.

It is fine to have morals. Just because a lot of us would love to play a serial killer game doesn't mean we are without any, either. I for one am happy that the GTA series opened the door for more "risky" games to be introduced into the marketplace. I would rather have as many options as I possibly can when it comes to gaming than have the same crap I have been playing since I was 7 continue to be spoon fed to me in a shiny new package.

If you are interested, sonic, eb games has used copies of Donkey Kong Jr. Math for $9.99 each.