The Order: 1886

[Pappy Knuckles]

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Were you guys able to get your Platinums in a single playthrough?

[DGuinta1]

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Going to pick up my copy today.

[aukevin]

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Were you guys able to get your Platinums in a single playthrough?

Pretty much. I had to go back through chapter select to get a few final weapon related kills, but that's all. There is no separate trophies for different difficulties, so you really only have to play through once.

[Pappy Knuckles]

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Pretty much. I had to go back through chapter select to get a few final weapon related kills, but that's all. There is no separate trophies for different difficulties, so you really only have to play through once.

Nice. I'm hoping I don't miss too many of the collectibles. This game has been very enjoyable for me so far. Not sure why it got slammed by so many people.

[ODogg]

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Anyone else notice that grays eyes look a lot like Arnold Schwarzaneggers eyes?

[DGuinta1]

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I am only 5 mins. in and just got the pistol; already I can tell, I am going to enjoy this ride!

[Heroesandvillains]

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I thought she was handled well. There is clearly a history with her and Galahad. While an intimate relationship seems to be off the table currently they have obviously broached the subject in the past yet still maintain a hospitable, sarcastically flirtatious relationship. Galahad seems to be the one who put an end to things while Igraine obviously still wanted to pursue that avenue.

As for the last half of the game I felt like she felt betrayed by Galahad not only as a friend, but also as a member of the Order. She witnessed Galahad running off with Lady Lakshmi and helping the Rebels fight against allies of the Order. Combined with the testimony of Lucan and Galahad withholding information from her (for her protection) she has little choice, but to pursue Galahad as a traitor. I actually thought they did a great job of setting her up to be the main antagonist for the future.

In the future I would like to follow her character as she uncovers evidence and is forced to reconcile her family, The Order, and Galahad.

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What is his evidence apart from testimony from Rebel accomplices? Lucan already set him up to take the fall once he brought the group to Lord Hastings. Do you think Lucan would simply come clean and reveal to the Order that he is a Lycan? Or that the Lord Chancellor would let his son bring down his family simultaneously with the Order? What better way then to make his son a martyr for the framing of Sir Galahad letting the Order remain on the hunt for the wrong enemy.

As for what it says about his character Galahad clearly had the best interest of The Order at heart. I would not be surprised if this series ended with him becoming Lord Chancellor. He took off all identifying elements when he ran off with Lady Lakshmi so as not to implicate The Order's involvement. He has fragments of a evidence of a larger conspiracy and has really nothing to present to The Order other than allegations. He is loyal and honor bound to a fault. He would rather shoulder the blame than to bury his Order and friends under allegations he can't backup fully quite yet.

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I can't answer for how you feel about them nor will I try to persuade you. Once I understood the mechanic of the timing I went through the garden section fairly easily. It may have been presented differently, but I felt on the whole it was very similar to how Uncharted handled its stealth takedowns. I would like to see more variations on the gameplay in the future and more open environments. I'm not sure a Batman Arkham stealth approach is necessary as someone else suggested earlier, but more open environments and variations to the enemy types would make things more interesting than what they were. I would also welcome multiple takedowns and a melee system that is more involved.

The gunplay for the Lycan encounters weren't as impressive as the rest of the gunplay segments. I enjoyed the finishers, but I would have enjoyed being to able to use a pistol and knife more. The way they were set-up was OK, but its something I hope they change for the next game. On the other hand I actually did really enjoy the two "QTE" Lycan encounters. I would like to see those expanded to include more strategy and variation, but I felt these boss fights were more engaging than some other games.

The aspect ratio never hindered me so I can't really comment. I loved the cover system and its implementation. Firefights would have been more interesting with more destructible cover, however.

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Igraine was a very strong character, but Lafayette only played a minor role in most of the game. I think they set him up to be Galahad's informant on the Order for the rest of the series. He was very likable and performed very well, but he didn't show as much as Perceval or Igraine.

I didn't feel like they were pushed aside for Lucan. Galahad, as was his flaw, was honor bound to protect his friends while relaying information to the ranking Knight Lucan. Lucan was more of a fall guy and martyr more than anything and I never felt he was the focus of the last portion of the story. The connection between him and Galahad is certainly testy before these events happen, but its still Galahad rooting out and putting down a fellow brother. They may have not been as close as Lafayette or Igraine, but there's certainly a connection to be felt.

I disagree with your changes to the story. Perceval's death is the catalyst that propels Galahad to defy the Lord Chancellor, strike an uneasy alliance with Lady Lakshmi, and go on a hunt to discover the plot of a conspiracy that Perceval seemed to be just uncovering himself. Galahad wanted to clear his mentor's name out of loyalty. If Lucan dies then we're left to build up Perceval as a traitor and co-conspirator. Certainly an interesting angle, but then that would have been the same thing as playing from Igraine's POV the rest of the game.

The "shadowy figure" remains a mystery, but I feel like he'll just lead Galahad to more co-conspirators and perhaps a make-shift Order off-shoot. I didn't think him remaining a mystery was detrimental to the story in this game.

This is a phenomenal exchange! Nice debate guys. I highly recommend anyone that's finished the game read this.

Here's a really basic question I'm sort of struggling with. Which is odd, considering how much of the more complex narrative arcs make sense to me.

What I don't get:

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Is the basic reasoning behind The Order/The United India Company/Lord Hastings wanting to not only keep the world filled with Half Breeds, but to also bring them over to America?

And how did they come to exist?

[Kramer5150]

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Anyone else notice that grays eyes look a lot like Arnold Schwarzaneggers eyes?

Didn't notice that,but his voice did sound like Liam Neeson....so much so that I had to look up who did the voice.

[mrprice33]

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This is a phenomenal exchange! Nice debate guys. I highly recommend anyone that's finished the game read this.

Here's a really basic question I'm sort of struggling with. Which is odd, considering how much of the more complex narrative arcs make sense to me.

What I don't get:

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Is the basic reasoning behind The Order/The United India Company/Lord Hastings wanting to not only keep the world filled with Half Breeds, but to also bring them over to America?

And how did they come to exist?

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That's one of the major issues I have with all of the villany and conspiracy stuff in the game: there's very little by way of motivation for any of them. Unless I missed something, Hastings' treachery is never given any backgrounding at all. He's a part of it, and that's about as much as we know.

[CMH]

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I finished and loved it. Thought the ending was good.

As for the story, I see it as one of many. I thought the actual plot of the 1886 story was resolved. The bigger mythology will be covered over the course of several (I hope) games.

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[49UNCFan]

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Does this game get worse after chapter 4 or something because so far this game is top notch imo

[PhilliesFan13]

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Does this game get worse after chapter 4 or something because so far this game is top notch imo

Not to me it didn't. I enjoyed the entire game.

[mestevo]

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Does this game get worse after chapter 4 or something because so far this game is top notch imo

Those are the foundation chapters of the game, from about there the story progresses and you'll like or dislike things, just like any game or movie.

[AUChase]

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I sold it tonight to a co-worker.

He offered to give me $45 for it, since it's basically new.

I took him up on it. I got to play a really awesome story and made profit on it, considering the discounts I had on the original purchase.

After some future DLC and a price drop, I'll pick it back up to replay it one day and add it to my permanent collection.

I don't have the time to hunt for the Platinum right now.

It will definitely go down as one of my favorite game stories.

[Pappy Knuckles]

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Finished the game tonight and it was a fun ride. I'm a little disappointed that the game doesn't track what collectibles you missed. I don't think I feel like going back and figuring out what I need for the platinum.