Assasins Creed Unity

[Sgt_Carnage]

Re: Assasins Creed Unity

They can come up with any excuse they want, but you can't willingly start a trend of NOT making games the best way possible like this. Its the equivalent of me buying the game new for less than $60 when I walk into bestbuy...

..which is basically what im going to do, get it discounted on PC and call it a day

So if that's what you've decided to do,what exactly are you griping about?

[23]

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So if that's what you've decided to do,what exactly are you griping about?

The fact that I am a PS4 owner and I don't want this to keep happening to the games that come out. It happened to watchdogs and now this... so does that mean the division is next? How about Rainbow Six? then what...other devs start following suit as well?

[daniel77733]

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The fact that I am a PS4 owner and I don't want this to keep happening to the games that come out. It happened to watchdogs and now this... so does that mean the division is next? How about Rainbow Six? then what...other devs start following suit as well?

The only way what you want happens is if gamers don't purchase the game(s) that did what you're concerned about or by not buying any games at all from that developer and/or publisher.

Watch Dogs looked damn good to me and I loved the bullets going through the windshields and windows on the cars. Gunfights were awesome. Definitely not perfect but still damn good.

To me, it's when a game gets too much attention and hype. Then, it becomes a total and complete cluster****.

Hopefully, The Division lives up to all the expectations because if done right, that could easily be a game that lasts for years via DLC. Rainbow Six: Siege looked even better in some aspects but at the same time, it seems to be a linear corridor mission based game as opposed to open world like The Division.

In the end, I hope both games (and Unity) are damn good but at the same time, if I had to choose between gameplay elements and visuals, I would easily prefer the gameplay elements because no matter how great a game looks, if it plays like crap, it won't matter how great it looks since it most likely wouldn't be played.

[Candyman5]

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The watch dogs "disappointment" comes from E3 footage that was expected to be the real deal. I can't tell you how many games I have seen look/play much differently than what was shown in E3.

People have got to read the "the footage you are about to see is not a reflection of the final build" message more closely.

[23]

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It was the PC that they showed, but that's not the point. They are willingly gimping games now. Just think about that for a minute

[daniel77733]

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The watch dogs "disappointment" comes from E3 footage that was expected to be the real deal. I can't tell you how many games I have seen look/play much differently than what was shown in E3.

People have got to read the "the footage you are about to see is not a reflection of the final build" message more closely.

I never expected Watch Dogs to look like it did at E3 2012 because to me, it's just common sense that nearly every gameplay demo you see is running off a high end PC. Games are developed on PC and then ported over to the consoles. It's been like that for years and years. It's not going to change.

Take the Batman Arkham Knight demo from this year's E3, it was running off a high end PC but yet everyone will expect it to look like that when it most likely won't.

Personally, developers and publishers should say what the games are running off of when they show the videos. That way, you already know what to expect.

It was the PC that they showed, but that's not the point. They are willingly gimping games now. Just think about that for a minute

I don't think that Ubisoft is willingly gimping their games. Unity has been in development for almost four years and built from the ground up. That's not easy to do especially when you're working on a new console developmental kit. Ubisoft setting Unity at 900p 30fps for both consoles is what they said, to avoid the problems and debates. It just didn't go the way they thought it would.

To me, developers and publishers should be LESS concerned about hitting 1080p and 60fps because when you're focusing and concentrating too much on that, the other aspects of the game will suffer because they're be too worried about not hitting the graphics and visuals that gamers are expecting. Personally, I think that gamers expectations are way too high right now. The consoles aren't even a year old and it takes at least two to three years in the console's life cycle to see developers and publishers take full advantage of the hardware.

As a casual gamer, I just want good games and with options that allow me to turn everything on/off but sadly, that rarely happens because they want certain aspects in the game to be required/forced.

I'm on chapter 3 of The Evil Within after deciding if I wanted to keep playing the game since it's in wide screen and the camera zooms in too close when aiming. I found a slight work around for the wide screen aspect. Not perfect but I managed to eliminate the black bars to about a half millimeter on both the top and bottom. I accomplished this by using the zoom option on my HDTV but had to sacrifice visuals in the process because I could only use the zoom option after changing the resolution from automatic to 480p in the PlayStation 4 sound and screen options menu. In the end, I decided that im not a graphics whore and care more about other stuff. The camera is still horrible when aiming as it's zoomed in too much but after not playing a damn good survival horror type game since RE 4, I had to make that sacrifice because the game is pretty good. If there was an option to zoom out the camera and go full screen in-game, I would easily rate it a 9/10 thus far and would surpass Mordor as my game of the year up to this point. Funny thing is that at 480p, the game has a more darker and gloomy feel to it which is a good thing.

Point is that Ubisoft's decision could be what has been rumored, that Unity is a pain in the *** to run at 1080p on PS4 and if that's the case, just imagine how much of a pain in the *** it would be on Xbox One. In the end, I don't know or even care why Unity is at 900p and 30fps simply because im far more concerned about far more important aspects in the game. To me, the graphics and visuals should be every gamer's last concern simply because no matter how great a game looks, if it plays and controls like crap, in the end, it's crap and not worth playing no matter how great it looks.

With all of that said, I do think that all developers and publishers should make the games as best they can on each respective console but not at the expense of other far more important aspects like gameplay, camera, controls, etc. In the end, I still think that this is more of a publicity stunt by Ubisoft since Unity wasn't getting as much attention and hype as they wanted it to get. I wouldn't be surprised to see Unity be 1080p via a day one patch or for them to get it in the PS4 version before it launches even though I doubt that's going to happen. One thing is for sure, if the game turns out to be the first "next gen" game that I think it will be, the lack of 1080p and 60fps isn't going to matter whatsoever.

[ChubbyBanana]

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It was the PC that they showed, but that's not the point. They are willingly gimping games now. Just think about that for a minute

I don't think they are gimping games willingly. I think they are locking the resolution at a level that allows them to get the crowd and depth of game they want.

Do I think that's right? Fine line. Longer I've let the issue linger in my head the more I've pushed down my rage. I'd rather have a truly awesome looking game at 900p than a slightly less awesome looking at 1080p.

Maybe that's just me.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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Don't they have a marketing contract with MS for this game?

[ChubbyBanana]

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Don't they have a marketing contract with MS for this game?

Yes indeed.

[mgoblue]

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I don't think they are gimping games willingly. I think they are locking the resolution at a level that allows them to get the crowd and depth of game they want.

Do I think that's right? Fine line. Longer I've let the issue linger in my head the more I've pushed down my rage. I'd rather have a truly awesome looking game at 900p than a slightly less awesome looking at 1080p.

Maybe that's just me.

This...and I'd rather have better looking games at 30 fps vs crappier at 60

[Skyboxer]

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This...and I'd rather have better looking games at 30 fps vs crappier at 60

Why does it have to be either or?

Is this simply the XBOX360/PS3 2.0 Gen..?

I don't know. Guess I expected more from this gen than this.

[ChubbyBanana]

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Why does it have to be either or?

Is this simply the XBOX360/PS3 2.0 Gen..?

I don't know. Guess I expected more from this gen than this.

Because they haven't figured out exactly how to use these new consoles to their absolute 100% fullest potential yet. It happens every gen.

Look at games at the launch of 360 compared to games on 360 now. Same with PS3. Games always get more technical/developed as a generation grows in age.

I think that they are saying that to make the game playable with all of the visual fidelity they've added that they locked framerate at 30fps. If you really want 360 2.0 or ps3 2.0 they could probably reduce that fidelity and crowd and make it run at 60.

[daniel77733]

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Because they haven't figured out exactly how to use these new consoles to their absolute 100% fullest potential yet. It happens every gen.

Look at games at the launch of 360 compared to games on 360 now. Same with PS3. Games always get more technical/developed as a generation grows in age.

I think that they are saying that to make the game playable with all of the visual fidelity they've added that they locked framerate at 30fps. If you really want 360 2.0 or ps3 2.0 they could probably reduce that fidelity and crowd and make it run at 60.

Exactly. Every generation is the same thing. The games for the first year are always average at best simply because the developers haven't learned how to take full advantage of the hardware yet. Combine that with the fact that gamers expectations are way too high and well, there you go.

With that all said, I think that Unity will be the first true next gen game despite not being 1080p and 60fps. Personally, they should try to increase the resolution to 1080p but the game being at 30fps is better than 60fps because 60fps is better suited for first person shooters, especially online because of all the intense shooting and action. After Unity, Bloodborne, The Order: 1886 and The Witcher 3 will up the ante followed by Batman and of course, the main game of them all, Uncharted 4. Uncharted was the best game on PS3 once it launched and Uncharted 4 will be no exception.

Simply put, aside from Unity, it's all about 2015 and beyond. Anyone who's expecting "next gen" now is only setting themselves up for disappointment.

[Skyboxer]

Re: Assasins Creed Unity

Seems some aren't trying to get to the fullest IMO.
Either way..
Will just wait and see and pick and choose wisely going forward. When in doubt I'll just get PC version

[daniel77733]

Re: Assasins Creed Unity

Seems some aren't trying to get to the fullest IMO.
Either way..
Will just wait and see and pick and choose wisely going forward. When in doubt I'll just get PC version

I just want good games that play good, look good and are fun to play. If they happen to be great instead of good, even better but when it comes to visuals vs other aspects, I care a lot more about the other aspects. Playing The Evil Within at 480p to get full screen should prove that. To me, it doesn't matter what the resolution and frames per second are if the more important aspects suck. I will always choose everything else over visuals simply because if the visuals are the only positive the respective game has to offer, it won't matter since it won't be played by me.

In the end, to each his/her own though. I just think that too many gamers are going to miss out on the first true next gen game because they care more about visuals. And even if by some chance the game isn't any good, just proves my point because if that's the way Unity turns out, the better visuals of 1080p and 60fps isn't going to make the game play or control any better.