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  • thaima1shu
    Robot
    • Feb 2004
    • 5598

    #271
    Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda

    I'm not bothered by the lip syncing or facial animations so far, they seem fine to me. Horizon Zero Dawn's got terrible lip syncing and animation during dialogue yet I never see anyone complaining about that.

    Played a little under two hours so far and am really enjoying it. If you've played the other Mass Effect games, the movement is pretty similar but with some increased mobility. I like the voice actor for the male Ryder better than I liked the male Shepard.

    Oh huge positive for me is that you can actually make asian characters. Most games are horrendous at this, so it's pretty awesome for me.
    Last edited by thaima1shu; 03-16-2017, 08:23 AM.

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    • Americas Team
      MVP
      • Jun 2016
      • 1282

      #272
      Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda

      Played for a few hours and so far I am loving the game, I really dont have any complaints so far beside the fact you cant customize the default Ryder faces and hair! The game play is so fun and satisfying, the graphics are really good, and I really like the exploring. If you like Mass Effect I dont see why you wouldnt like this game.

      Now I have a decision to make, continue playing ME2/ME3 or just say screw them and play MEA.
      Last edited by Americas Team; 03-16-2017, 08:52 AM.
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      • Americas Team
        MVP
        • Jun 2016
        • 1282

        #273
        Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda

        Originally posted by Money99
        I can live with all those complaints.
        I think I'm one of the few who prefers auto-cover because I'm so bad at games I need all the help I can get.


        EDIT:
        Found this site which shows a lot of the complaints:
        Mass Effect Andromeda is just under a week from release, and final release footage of the game has been appearing online with many people noticing issues with the game. You will see some of these issues in the below images and GIFs as well as some written impressions from users online. In the below GIF you will see the extremely awkward walking animation for one of the characters in the game which has been hilariously compared to the classic Vince McMahon, and now Conor McGregor walk. The next GIF shows what many are calling “dead eyes” from the characters in the game along with awkward dialogue from this scene. Many find the sentence “Sorry, my face is tired” as something that’s almost never said ever. I don’t have to explain this below, but as you can clearly see it’s a hilarious glitch. For some reason Mass Effect Andromeda includes the classic “movie punch” but with this being a video game that’s not an actual reason. Instead it’s another mistake the developers have overlooked in the final version of the game. Also in another embarrassing mistake, the character in this scene is holding the gun backwards. The image below shows the horrible preset character choices if you want to be a female character in the game. And in this final GIF you can see the terrible animation when characters speak in the game. We’ve also seen some text based impressions which have mentioned that the game reuses animations that were in previous Mass Effect games. There are also some major slowdowns during combat sequences, but it’s not known if it happens with the PS4 Pro too. We suggest using a VPN if gameplay is seriously affected. Hopefully there’s a day one patch that fixes at least some of these issues, but it’s very unlikely that everything will be fixed for launch, and that you will most likely encounter these issues. Sources include Easy Allies Twitch stream, IGN and NeoGaf’s thread.


        I don't really care about the dead eyes or small bugs, but the slowdowns concern me.

        Every game has bugs now. Developers are now using the consumers as bug testers knowing they can simply fire off a patch a month after release.
        I think if you love the game, or the genre, you'll overlook these bugs and enjoy the game.
        To use a bad example, I love MLB2K13 warts and all. It has a bevy of animation issues and you need to tinker with sliders out of the box, but I love the gameplay and some of the exterior features as well.
        The good outweighs the bad and I don't mind dealing with the quirks.

        And I think that goes for every game. If you're on the fence, then this stuff will probably drive you nuts.
        But I'm excited for the game so I don't think I'll mind these hiccups.
        I like the auto cover too, less buttons to press plus it works very well in this game.
        Xbox Series X: KILLMUNGER

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        • rudyjuly2
          Cade Cunningham
          • Aug 2002
          • 14815

          #274
          Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda

          Some positive early impressions that compare the game to DAI (which I liked): https://pageturnersinc.wordpress.com...a-no-spoilers/

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          • jfsolo
            Live Action, please?
            • May 2003
            • 12965

            #275
            Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda

            Originally posted by Money99
            I can live with all those complaints.
            I think I'm one of the few who prefers auto-cover because I'm so bad at games I need all the help I can get.


            EDIT:
            Found this site which shows a lot of the complaints:
            Mass Effect Andromeda is just under a week from release, and final release footage of the game has been appearing online with many people noticing issues with the game. You will see some of these issues in the below images and GIFs as well as some written impressions from users online. In the below GIF you will see the extremely awkward walking animation for one of the characters in the game which has been hilariously compared to the classic Vince McMahon, and now Conor McGregor walk. The next GIF shows what many are calling “dead eyes” from the characters in the game along with awkward dialogue from this scene. Many find the sentence “Sorry, my face is tired” as something that’s almost never said ever. I don’t have to explain this below, but as you can clearly see it’s a hilarious glitch. For some reason Mass Effect Andromeda includes the classic “movie punch” but with this being a video game that’s not an actual reason. Instead it’s another mistake the developers have overlooked in the final version of the game. Also in another embarrassing mistake, the character in this scene is holding the gun backwards. The image below shows the horrible preset character choices if you want to be a female character in the game. And in this final GIF you can see the terrible animation when characters speak in the game. We’ve also seen some text based impressions which have mentioned that the game reuses animations that were in previous Mass Effect games. There are also some major slowdowns during combat sequences, but it’s not known if it happens with the PS4 Pro too. We suggest using a VPN if gameplay is seriously affected. Hopefully there’s a day one patch that fixes at least some of these issues, but it’s very unlikely that everything will be fixed for launch, and that you will most likely encounter these issues. Sources include Easy Allies Twitch stream, IGN and NeoGaf’s thread.


            I don't really care about the dead eyes or small bugs, but the slowdowns concern me.

            Every game has bugs now. Developers are now using the consumers as bug testers knowing they can simply fire off a patch a month after release.
            I think if you love the game, or the genre, you'll overlook these bugs and enjoy the game.
            To use a bad example, I love MLB2K13 warts and all. It has a bevy of animation issues and you need to tinker with sliders out of the box, but I love the gameplay and some of the exterior features as well.
            The good outweighs the bad and I don't mind dealing with the quirks.

            And I think that goes for every game. If you're on the fence, then this stuff will probably drive you nuts.
            But I'm excited for the game so I don't think I'll mind these hiccups.
            Yeah, I think that people who still have residual hard feelings toward Bioware/EA for any of their other games will probably be able to find something that ruins the game for them.
            Jordan Mychal Lemos
            @crypticjordan

            Do this today: Instead of $%*#!@& on a game you're not going to play or movie you're not going to watch, say something good about a piece of media you're excited about.

            Do the same thing tomorrow. And the next. Now do it forever.

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            • rudyjuly2
              Cade Cunningham
              • Aug 2002
              • 14815

              #276
              Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda

              PC roundtable discussion. Some like it, some don't but they can only talk abou the early part of the game which they all feel is a mistake since they think that's the weak part of the game.

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              • The JareBear
                Be Good To One Another
                • Jul 2010
                • 11560

                #277
                Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda

                I definitely am aware/maybe a little worried about the criticisms but from the very little I've seen I'm still very excited.

                I love that dialogue is contextual based on optional stuff you've done

                I love the environments that I've seen. Maybe doesn't look like Horizon but seems to look very sharp

                Exploration looks fun as hell

                Almost every multiplayer impression I've read has been awesome. The MP looks cool as hell

                There definitely will be valid criticisms, for sure, but for me I am confident about getting my money's worth

                I could be wrong tho, I guess?

                I think the one criticism I am most affected by, if true, is if the menu and UI is as cumbersome as some have said
                Last edited by The JareBear; 03-16-2017, 11:22 AM.
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                • Americas Team
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2016
                  • 1282

                  #278
                  Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda

                  I think I've made a decision, I'm going to continue playing through ME2 then on to ME3. Im going to wait for the XboxONE Elite to drop this fall to buy Andromeda, I must see this baby in all it's glory!
                  Between ME2/ME3 and my backlog I have plenty to keep my busy until then.
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                  • SoxFan01605
                    All Star
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 7982

                    #279
                    Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda

                    Originally posted by rudyjuly2
                    Seeing a lot of complaints about animations and voice sync stuff. For a dialogue heavy game some find the voice sync and dialogue issues so far. Big open world games usually need a couple patches. I may hold off on this game for a bit and dig into HZD.

                    Also, the game uses an auto cover system so some people will be annoyed.
                    I'm playing the access trial on PC. Honestly, and maybe this is because I've been replaying ME3 lately, the dialogue syncing and related facial animations don't stand out as badly to me as some are saying. A lot of that is just typical Bioware, IMO.

                    That said, I think the graphical style (the somewhat shiny/waxy skin) plus the greater detail overall makes the issues more noticeable. I also agree with complaints I've seen about the general lack of emotion or appropriate facial animations depending on circumstances. The ambient conversations are frustrating too, as your party will talk as though right next to you even though they've sprinted way ahead...a bit jarring. It's a mixed bag for sure.

                    Anyway, some general thoughts:

                    GRAPHICS:

                    Graphics as a whole are a mixed bag. The greater environments and aliens all range from good to awesome. Humans are all over the map (The player characters being most disappointing IMO) and certain textures seem disappointingly washed out when compared to other recent titles (and also considering the crazy high recommended specs for PC...more on that in a bit).

                    CHARACTER CUSTOMIZATION:

                    Related to visuals, character customization is, IMO, crap. Very disappointing. While it's certainly possible to get some decent enough looking faces, you are confined to simply tweaking the presets, which is even more limited than the original trilogy.

                    In other words, instead of picking a face and then selecting from different types of feature sets, you can only moderately sculpt the features already there. So, of you really like the outline of one face, but the nose is all wrong? Too bad. Perfect nose and chin on another face, but weird huge eyes? Again, too bad.

                    And don't even get me started on the beards. Beyond the small selection, they honestly look two generations behind visually. They're like paint...just turrible.

                    I had much more success customizing my twin...I thought the faces and hair options for the females, while still limited were, as a whole, much better.


                    That sounds like a lot of bitching...lol..and it is, I guess, but those gripes aside, the rest of the game is great so far. If you don't care too much about customizing your Ryder(s) or get hung up on occasionally wonky visuals and facial animations, there's little else to complain about.

                    NARRATIVE:

                    It's taking me a bit to warm up to the Ryders, but that's likely as much due to Shep bias as anything. I also have a good feeling about the early characters I've interacted with. Liam, for example, seems to take on the role of your typical early Bioware buddy, but, so far at least, isn't quite as generic or annoying.

                    It's early, but I love the sense of exploring a new galaxy and the discovery that goes with it. They also do a good job of weaving your role into the early narrative (even if it was a bit cliched and not at all unexpected).

                    It doesn't hold the same sense of excitement as ME1 did, but for me it does exactly what I was hoping for with the narrative and focus (that expansion of discovery and exploration from the original). The scanning tool and subsequent info gained from it adds to that as well.

                    GAME PLAY:

                    Combat and movement in general is SO MUCH better now and really fluid. Not a big fan of auto cover and I keep hitting A to go into it (which is now the jetpack), so I don't have a feel for it yet.

                    Weapon fire feels a bit weak...no real punch and enemies seem to be a bit spongy, but that may be an early game thing. Biotics are AWESOME though and feel more in your control than ever.

                    I'm in love with the simple Pull/Throw combo, where you hold an enemy with Pull and then toss him into objects or even other enemies at will. I seriously just jet pack around grabbing guys and flinging them into each other or into the singularity I just tossed...lots of fun!

                    PC SETTINGS:

                    Also, a quick note for PC players, I was a bit worried about the recommended specs being so high, but I've got most of my settings at Ultra and things have been buttery smooth at 1080P (I7 2600K and GTX 980). Reports are that it's running great on I5s on higher settings as well, so it doesn't appear to be as demanding as stated.
                    Last edited by SoxFan01605; 03-16-2017, 03:44 PM.

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                    • The JareBear
                      Be Good To One Another
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 11560

                      #280
                      Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda

                      Thanks for your thoughts Sox, I appreciate your perspective.

                      This is one of the first games in awhile that the recommended specs are above what my PC can handle, which is why I went Pro on this one
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                      • SoxFan01605
                        All Star
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 7982

                        #281
                        Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda

                        Originally posted by The JareBear
                        Thanks for your thoughts Sox, I appreciate your perspective.

                        This is one of the first games in awhile that the recommended specs are above what my PC can handle, which is why I went Pro on this one
                        Same here. I was worried when they were announced, but if the game is this smooth before a dedicated driver update, then I think a lot more people will be able to play this on decent settings than originally thought.

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                        • RIFRIG
                          Pro
                          • May 2015
                          • 822

                          #282
                          Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda

                          I'm thinking if it may be possible to patch in a manual cover option as it does make life a little to easy with auto cover.
                          There are definitely a couple of unused buttons on the controller that could help with a manual cover system.

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                          • The 24th Letter
                            ERA
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 39373

                            #283
                            Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda

                            Definitely agree here

                            'This Is Why It's A Bad Idea For Games Like 'Mass Effect: Andromeda' To Have Piecemeal Embargoes'

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                            • jfsolo
                              Live Action, please?
                              • May 2003
                              • 12965

                              #284
                              Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda

                              Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                              Definitely agree here



                              'This Is Why It's A Bad Idea For Games Like 'Mass Effect: Andromeda' To Have Piecemeal Embargoes'



                              https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...embargoes/amp/
                              This kind of measured, nuanced analysis is not something that many "reviewers" seem capable of these days.
                              Jordan Mychal Lemos
                              @crypticjordan

                              Do this today: Instead of $%*#!@& on a game you're not going to play or movie you're not going to watch, say something good about a piece of media you're excited about.

                              Do the same thing tomorrow. And the next. Now do it forever.

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                              • AshamanCarnage
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 1252

                                #285
                                Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda

                                I've played around two hours so far and have run into just a couple complaints, pretty minor overall.

                                1. Lip syncing can be off from time to time
                                2. Facial expressions are pretty lacking
                                3. Character customization is hot garbage. Severely lacking in options and most of the choices to choose from look awful.
                                4. Slight slowdown every now and then.

                                Despite those, I'm pretty engrossed in the story, it definitely has an epic feel to it and I'm looking forward to progressing it. Combat is relatively solid (only two hours so I haven't unlocked a whole lot), and exploration has been fun and I find myself actually wanting to explore and not just forcing myself. Side missions have also been rewarding and decently interesting. Solid game so far that shows a lot of promise.

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