Dragon Age: The Veilguard

[Gotmadskillzson]

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According to EA press release, this game and FIFA under performed, dragging EA sales down and making their stock drop 17%. 1.5 million people played Veilguard, they expected 3 million players.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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Also the game director, Corrinne Busche no longer works for Bioware or EA. Some say she was fired, some say resigned, either way she is gone.

[ChaseB]

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Yeah, I just don't think they ever recovered from the negativity of the first reveal. The art style bothered people and that was before they "dumbed down' the game. I really enjoyed the game but also had no connection to the prior games in the series. Gamers are pretty stubborn a lot of the time, so if they felt it changed too much, usually they react negatively to that.

[cch99]

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I didn’t play the new one but really liked the original. Did not like inquisition at all and didn’t play much of 2.

My thought is if you are going to make the game so different why not just make a new IP. This isn’t just related to Vellguard.

It seems like they wanted to use the name to get sales but it’s so different lost a lot of the original fans that made it popular.

I’ll try it once it hits PS Plus but inquisition made me have no interest for this one. Personally I thought the previews looked cool but it didn’t feel/look like Dragon Age


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[Fake Empire]

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I didn’t play the new one but really liked the original. Did not like inquisition at all and didn’t play much of 2.

My thought is if you are going to make the game so different why not just make a new IP. This isn’t just related to Vellguard.

It seems like they wanted to use the name to get sales but it’s so different lost a lot of the original fans that made it popular.

I’ll try it once it hits PS Plus but inquisition made me have no interest for this one. Personally I thought the previews looked cool but it didn’t feel/look like Dragon Age


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Exactly. I played this one and refunded it. DA: Origins was a masterpiece, DA2 was ok, the rest are a complete joke. It's not only the complete turn of the gameplay, the writing also is horrendous.
Who knows, I hope a studio like Larian acquires the IP and revives it but I guess this will never happen. Maybe in 2045.

[rudyjuly2]

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It’s a flawed but fun game. I’m 60 hours in and there are things that could be better. I do think the high fantasy and less gritty nature hurt it. The game is full of dialogue and choices that are largely meaningless and waste time. The party combat is flawed when your party can’t die. The game should have been a true open world too. Disjointed map takes away from things. No true exploration. I loved stumbling on to my first dragon in DAI. This game whiffs there.

[Armor and Sword]

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It’s a flawed but fun game. I’m 60 hours in and there are things that could be better. I do think the high fantasy and less gritty nature hurt it. The game is full of dialogue and choices that are largely meaningless and waste time. The party combat is flawed when your party can’t die. The game should have been a true open world too. Disjointed map takes away from things. No true exploration. I loved stumbling on to my first dragon in DAI. This game whiffs there.

I enjoyed it a lot. DAO is a masterpiece in the genre no doubt…..DAI I enjoyed as well….and the open world was absolutely missed in DAV.

DAV failed for a few reasons. “Go woke go broke” is one of them. Hard fact right there. It got destroyed in that regard on the internet.

Me? I did not care….it did not ruin my enjoyment of the game….but it sure ruffled enough feathers to not only heavily affect sales but it got the lead developer canned.

[rudyjuly2]

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The “woke” thing doesn’t bother me either but having a non-binary character (Taash who I like) and dialogue about pronouns in a fantasy game didn’t make a lot of sense. Fantasy games should be gritty old school although this game is not.

[studbucket]

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I opted out of playing the game, largely because multiple people told me the tone of the game was very different from previous Dragon Age games. Instead of being darker and gritty with deep and interesting dialog, it was very sanitized and shallow dialog in a much "safer/cleaner" world.

I heard this from multiple folks, but curious if that tracks with your experience playing the game?

[rudyjuly2]

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I opted out of playing the game, largely because multiple people told me the tone of the game was very different from previous Dragon Age games. Instead of being darker and gritty with deep and interesting dialog, it was very sanitized and shallow dialog in a much "safer/cleaner" world.

I heard this from multiple folks, but curious if that tracks with your experience playing the game?

I don’t think that is true. There are only a few choices that really matter tho. A lot of fluff. I never considered DAI gritty tho.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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The fall out continues. More senior people were fired from Bioware and EA.

Ryan Cormier, editor on Star Wars: The Old Republic, Anthem, and Dragon Age: The Veilguard

Jennifer Cheverie, a tester, analyst and producer on Mass Effect 3, Dragon Age: Inquisition, Anthem, and Veilguard

Daniel Steed, a producer on Star Wars: The Old Republic – Legacy of the Sith and Dragon Age: The Veilguard

Lina Anderson, senior product manager

Michelle Flamm, systems designer

Mad Bee, UX designer

Also fired was Trick and Karin Weekes. Trick was the lead writer for Veilguard, but he also was a writer for the entire series and Mass Effect series. Karin Weekes was the editor for most of Dragon Age and Mass Effect, along with Star Wars and Anthem.

So as it stands now, Dragon Age as an IP is dead in the water. From the looks of things, if Mass Effect don't break sales records, Bioware itself might be dead since they haven't had a hit in a mighty long time, not since Inquisition.

[rudyjuly2]

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I actually liked Anthem. Shouldn’t have taken 10 years for this game.

[rudyjuly2]

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I HATE how combos are split up and don’t pair with everything. Game should have let us switch classes during the game too for more variety.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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I am sadden that we probably will never get another Dragon Age game and there was ZERO DLC created or planned for The Veilguard. This game suffered from many things. Even though I liked the game overall, the classes were weak compared to past Dragon Age games.

Mages was so watered down and really didn't do big damage.

Warrior weren't tank gods likes they suppose to be.

The archer people were slow.

The biggest letdown though were the battles. They weren't grand scale. Also for as much as they hyped up Tevinter in the past games, when you got there, it was such a let down. And fighting their mages, which suppose to be the ulitmate mages of mage kind was even a bigger let down.

Guess I will buy a physical copy for a collector kind of thing. Really got me worried about Mass Effect now, considering the people that were fired were also working on Mass Effect currently, I can see Mass Effect being delayed by 2 or 3 years.

[rudyjuly2]

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I do think a lot of the character side quests are sappy. Not much grit there. Sometimes the game feels more like a therapy session than a fantasy game.