Shooting at Virginia Tech

[The C]

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As of right now they haven't even linked the first shooting to the rampage 2 hours later. They are also talking to a person of interest.

I'd imagine they have to take the bullets and check them with all the victims.

As much as the media is ripping them up right now for not giving up information, they would tear them to pieces if they got something wrong.

I would imagine the police and the people they put on the press conferences weren't ready for the HUGE contingent of media there.

[opd897]

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Emails?? You got to be kidding me. Not everyone has access and checks their emails. This is a poor way to communicate with everyone.The campuses should have been shut down and locked down after the first shooting. Someone screwed up big time. Many questions to be answered the next couple of days and weeks.

There was no reason to believe this was an active shooter situation after the first shooting. How long should the lockdown have been in effect should they have chosen to do that? "Shutting down" a major university campus would most likely be impossible. You are talking about acres of land and 10's of thousands of people. As they say, 20 /20 is always better and certainly as things happened, yes that might have saved lives if in fact it could have been done, but people don't think in "hindsight". They thought it was an isolated incident and had no evidence to believe what happened was going to happen. People, the only person here who is at fault for what happened is the SHOOTER.

[jmood88]

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Exactly, I'm tired of hearing about blame. Would've, could've, should've. It's easy to say what could've been done when you're looking back.

We're talking about an administration that has to handle 26,000+ students plus faculty over a 2600 acre campus.

My friend told me about an incident where a girl was shot on campus here in Memphis. I hadn't even heard about it. People getting murdered on school campus happens all across the country. Because of one small incident, most if not all schools wouldn't go to the extreme of shutting down the campus.

In the end, the only person that should hold blame is the gunman. Anything else is just ridiculous.

Hindisight is 20/20 but there's no way that you don't shut down the school when two people have been killed in a dorm and the shooter just dissapeared.

[BGarrett7]

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2 hours should have been more than enough time to do that.

But, again, logically speaking, why would you lockdown the entire 2600 acre campus because of what was believed to be a domestic incident in a campus dorm? I mean, I would expect it on a campus like mine at KSU where it is a mere 260 acres, but we're talking a huge campus here. Like has already been said, there isn't even any solid proof at this point, twelve hours later, that the two incidents are even connected.

[Heelfan71]

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I'd imagine they have to take the bullets and check them with all the victims.

As much as the media is ripping them up right now for not giving up information, they would tear them to pieces if they got something wrong.

I would imagine the police and the people they put on the press conferences weren't ready for the HUGE contingent of media there.

yeah, they just said they have a preliminary ID on the shooter but are not saying yet.

[jmood88]

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But, again, logically speaking, why would you lockdown the entire 2600 acre campus because of what was believed to be a domestic incident in a campus dorm? I mean, I would expect it on a campus like mine at KSU where it is a mere 260 acres, but we're talking a huge campus here. Like has already been said, there isn't even any solid proof at this point, twelve hours later, that the two incidents are even connected.

They had no idea where the shooter went, they said that they thought he may have left campus. If you have no idea where the shooter is there's no way you keep from alerting the news about a killer on the loose.

[ehh]

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I dont know dude. Not to take away from this specific event, but theres a lot worse going on in this world. Aside from the tragedy of today, this country is not half as bad as some other countries.

Could you imagine leaving your home and wondering if you were going to get killed by a car bomb or something?

I suppose I should have included that I was talking about countries that are similarly affluent to America. Obviously third-world countries are living hell, but those are holy wars, etc going on there, not random acts of violence that's being blamed on media sources.

[Husker_OS]

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I can't even fathom something like this happening at Bama..I'd have to transfer out if it did..no way I could go back after something like that.

[BGarrett7]

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They had no idea where the shooter went, they said that they thought he may have left campus. If you have no idea where the shooter is there's no way you keep from alerting the news about a killer on the loose.

If that is/was the case, then the administration at VT is not to blame. They were acting based on what the police investigation determined. Their discoveries obviously were not severe enough for a complete lockdown. I'm sure if they felt like there was a suicidal, maniacal gunman on the loose, then everything would have been dealt with immediately.

[jmood88]

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I suppose I should have included that I was talking about countries that are similarly affluent to America. Obviously third-world countries are living hell, but those are holy wars, etc going on there, not random acts of violence that's being blamed on media sources.

Other countries have to fear terrorism just about everyday, just look at the bombings that have happened in Great Britain. The US is relatively lucky when it comes to that stuff.

[The GIGGAS]

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Giggas... just chill man, it's over with... nothing any of us can do... Just working yourself into a frenzy is going to do nothing but make you more upset, and cause much more stress then you need.

Yeah... but at this point... I'm really upset at the information released.... make that the lack of information released. There's been practically nothing.

All we know is 33 people dead, 15 injured, VT shut down tomorrow, MCPS shut down tomorrow, and no classes for RU.

That's pretty much it, now, isn't it?

[RockyTop1]

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There is absolutely no way to shut down a campus that size in a short amount of time. UT is roughly the same size with around 26k students as well and even if you did an all points bulletin on the radio, tv, everything, hardly anybody would get it. TV, let's be honest, nobody wakes up early in the morning to watch tv. College students get as much sleep as they possibly can before they have to wake up. Radio? Nobody listens to the radio anymore. I heard at least 3 interviews today where people were quoted as saying "Well, I was listening to my ipod when I heard/saw/etc." Very few people will check their email prior to leaving their rooms. I would always check my email for the first time during my first class. IMO, i don't think the administration should be getting railed like they are. Same yahoo shoots 2 people in a dorm, they shut down that dorm and the shooter disappears. They get the situation under control, and feel everything is fine. I can see their reasoning.

[jmood88]

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If that is/was the case, then the administration at VT is not to blame. They were acting based on what the police investigation determined. Their discoveries obviously were not severe enough for a complete lockdown. I'm sure if they felt like there was a suicidal, maniacal gunman on the loose, then everything would have been dealt with immediately.

But how do you not tell the news or at least cancel classes when you have no idea where the shooter is? That just makes no sense whatsoever. Even if everyone doesn't see the story on the news or get the email in time, doing nothing isn't much better. There were two people killed on campus and they didn't have the killer apprehended. I'm sorry but the administration could've done things a lot better.

[The C]

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I suppose I should have included that I was talking about countries that are similarly affluent to America. Obviously third-world countries are living hell, but those are holy wars, etc going on there, not random acts of violence that's being blamed on media sources.

It is not quite on the same scale as what happened at VT but doesn't Europe have those soccer riots all the time? I read a while back that an Italian policemen and a few people died because a bomb was thrown into his car.

You have to remember in America we are narcissistic. We really only care about our news or REALLY BIG events that happen in the world.

I remember the Beslan School Massacre in Russia got coverage, but over 200 people died there.

[chippered]

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I suppose I should have included that I was talking about countries that are similarly affluent to America. Obviously third-world countries are living hell, but those are holy wars, etc going on there, not random acts of violence that's being blamed on media sources.

I gotcha. Sorry if I jumped on ya.