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  • AC
    Win the East
    • Sep 2010
    • 14951

    #11176
    Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

    It's called choosing arbitrary start and end points and is impacted by selection bias. It's cool to look at but it's completely ridiculous to use as significant data and gets on my nerves when people use it. You should use the entirety of the data available to you.
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    • Mabster
      Crunchy
      • Mar 2009
      • 7659

      #11177
      Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

      When people refer to game characters as toons.
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      • ubernoob
        ****
        • Jul 2004
        • 15522

        #11178
        Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

        Originally posted by Mabster
        When people refer to game characters as toons.
        Fighting a losing battle there. They've been referred to as toons since at least the advent of the 3D PC MMOs in 1999.

        I've seen people in my guild say the same thing and I don't understand it. What would you rather have them called? They only time someone uses toon as in "my toon" is when it's a character they created - anyone else put in the game is either referred to as an NPC or by character name if it's a game that has a set group of characters.

        I've always thought someone getting bothered by the word toon is akin to someone getting bothered when someone calls a tree a tree. That's just what the word has meant, does mean and will continue to mean.

        I just ask why out of personal curiosity because I've seen it said before but never has anyone been able to explain why it's said.
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        • Burns11
          Greatness Has Arrived
          • Mar 2007
          • 7406

          #11179
          Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

          Originally posted by ubernoob
          Fighting a losing battle there. They've been referred to as toons since at least the advent of the 3D PC MMOs in 1999.

          I've seen people in my guild say the same thing and I don't understand it. What would you rather have them called? They only time someone uses toon as in "my toon" is when it's a character they created - anyone else put in the game is either referred to as an NPC or by character name if it's a game that has a set group of characters.

          I've always thought someone getting bothered by the word toon is akin to someone getting bothered when someone calls a tree a tree. That's just what the word has meant, does mean and will continue to mean.

          I just ask why out of personal curiosity because I've seen it said before but never has anyone been able to explain why it's said.
          I beta tested Everquest, DaoC, Everquest 2, then I left when everyone migrated to WoW because I didn't care for it anymore. Not once did I see anyone reference a character as a toon until much more recently.

          It grinds my gears because it's ****ing stupid, and makes no sense. It also sounds childish. It's also not how the games themselves refer to those characters, they refer to them as, surprisingly enough, characters.

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          • ubernoob
            ****
            • Jul 2004
            • 15522

            #11180
            Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

            Originally posted by Burns11
            I beta tested Everquest, DaoC, Everquest 2, then I left when everyone migrated to WoW because I didn't care for it anymore. Not once did I see anyone reference a character as a toon until much more recently.

            It grinds my gears because it's ****ing stupid, and makes no sense. It also sounds childish. It's also not how the games themselves refer to those characters, they refer to them as, surprisingly enough, characters.
            Interesting. I've been calling them toons because that's what everyone referred to them as in EverQuest and then that carried over to all the other games. I can assure you its been there since EQs launch and formative years.
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            • snepp
              We'll waste him too.
              • Apr 2003
              • 10007

              #11181
              Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

              I've always called my characters...characters.
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              • Chaos81
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2004
                • 17150

                #11182
                Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                Originally posted by snepp
                I've always called my characters...characters.
                Same here.

                Only time I've ever heard the word "toon" used is when referring to cartoon characters (And I don't mean in gaming), specifically when it was used in Who Framed Roger Rabbit.
                Last edited by Chaos81; 10-06-2013, 07:49 PM.

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                • Bellsprout
                  Hard Times.
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 25652

                  #11183
                  Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                  This thread is the first time I've ever seen them called toons.
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                  Originally posted by l3ulvl
                  A lot of you guys seem pretty cool, but you have wieners.

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                  • ubernoob
                    ****
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 15522

                    #11184
                    Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                    Originally posted by Dayman
                    This thread is the first time I've ever seen them called toons.
                    It's mainly an MMO thing since most console games (save for Skyrim/GTAV online) have pre-built named main characters.
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                    • Mabster
                      Crunchy
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 7659

                      #11185
                      Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                      Originally posted by ubernoob
                      I've seen people in my guild say the same thing and I don't understand it. What would you rather have them called?
                      I'd rather them be called character, paladin, thief, halfling, mage, high elf, gunner, captain, girl, guy, tree, etc.

                      Call them what they are.

                      Nobody knows exactly where the term originated so its not the same as "tree".

                      The word "tree" has origins in languages that are a thousand years old. Maybe in a thousand years I won't have a problem with the word toon.

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                      • ubernoob
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                        • Jul 2004
                        • 15522

                        #11186
                        Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                        Link for the bored.

                        https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...f-word-TOON-!-!
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                        • Mabster
                          Crunchy
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 7659

                          #11187
                          Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                          Originally posted by Dayman
                          This thread is the first time I've ever seen them called toons.
                          Then you've blocked certain people or aren't reading the GTAVO completely.

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                          • l3ulvl
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 17230

                            #11188
                            Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                            Originally posted by Mabster
                            I'd rather them be called character, paladin, thief, halfling, mage, high elf, gunner, captain, girl, guy, tree, etc.

                            Call them what they are.

                            Nobody knows exactly where the term originated so its not the same as "tree".

                            The word "tree" has origins in languages that are a thousand years old. Maybe in a thousand years I won't have a problem with the word toon.

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                            • Bellsprout
                              Hard Times.
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 25652

                              #11189
                              Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                              Originally posted by Mabster
                              Then you've blocked certain people or aren't reading the GTAVO completely.

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                              The latter, I'd think. I'm a skimmer.
                              Member: OS Uni Snob Association | Twitter: @MyNameIsJesseG | #WT4M | #WatchTheWorldBurn
                              Originally posted by l3ulvl
                              A lot of you guys seem pretty cool, but you have wieners.

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                              • Mabster
                                Crunchy
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 7659

                                #11190
                                Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                                Originally posted by l3ulvl
                                How long do you plan on living?

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