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  • pfunk880
    MVP
    • Jul 2004
    • 4452

    #16
    Re: Do you have any respect for any pro league commish?

    Originally posted by TheGamingChef
    What if Goodell came up with this great idea: He'd have the Bears play one game a season against the Chicago Rush of the AFL, using AFL rules. The game would count for the Bears' regular season NFL record for trying to make the playoffs, too! Because the fans in Chicago were willing to pay a lot of money to watch, that must mean it's a good idea and improves the game, right?

    Maybe I'm just idealistic, but I wish baseball wasn't just about the money, like everything else. I always thought baseball would be the last sport to "sell out".
    Oh please. Not the same at all.
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    • dkgojackets
      Banned
      • Mar 2005
      • 13816

      #17
      Re: Do you have any respect for any pro league commish?

      Originally posted by TheGamingChef
      What if Goodell came up with this great idea: He'd have the Bears play one game a season against the Chicago Rush of the AFL, using AFL rules. The game would count for the Bears' regular season NFL record for trying to make the playoffs, too! Because the fans in Chicago were willing to pay a lot of money to watch, that must mean it's a good idea and improves the game, right?

      Maybe I'm just idealistic, but I wish baseball wasn't just about the money, like everything else. I always thought baseball would be the last sport to "sell out".
      LOL, thats completely different and you know it.

      And no, it wouldn't bring money to the league. Think about it. I doubt it would even bring money in Chicago, I know I wouldn't pay to see Carolina play an AFL team.

      Baseball hasn't "sold out." There are very few people who see interleague play as that. Do you want to get rid of the forward pass in football? No shot clock in basketball? Heck lets just go back to peach baskets, thats how it started.
      Last edited by dkgojackets; 07-05-2008, 07:07 AM.

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      • TheGamingChef
        MVP
        • Jun 2006
        • 3384

        #18
        Re: Do you have any respect for any pro league commish?

        Originally posted by dkgojackets
        LOL, thats completely different and you know it.
        Well, how is it completely different?

        Is it completely different because the rules are different? Or because the leagues have unequal amount of talent?

        Because both of those hold true for an AL/NL comparison as well.

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        • dkgojackets
          Banned
          • Mar 2005
          • 13816

          #19
          Re: Do you have any respect for any pro league commish?

          Originally posted by TheGamingChef
          Well, how is it completely different?

          Is it completely different because the rules are different? Or because the leagues have unequal amount of talent?

          Because both of those hold true for an AL/NL comparison as well.
          The simplest answer is that Chicago would be playing a team outside of the NFL whereas both the AL and NL are part of MLB, but that would make too much sense. There's also the fact that Chicago would be the only team doing this whereas all AL and NL teams are involved in interleague play, but this must have been too obvious as well.

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          • snepp
            We'll waste him too.
            • Apr 2003
            • 10007

            #20
            Re: Do you have any respect for any pro league commish?

            Originally posted by TheGamingChef
            Well, how is it completely different?
            Intentional obtuseness I hope?
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            • pfunk880
              MVP
              • Jul 2004
              • 4452

              #21
              Re: Do you have any respect for any pro league commish?

              Originally posted by dkgojackets
              The simplest answer is that Chicago would be playing a team outside of the NFL whereas both the AL and NL are part of MLB, but that would make too much sense. There's also the fact that Chicago would be the only team doing this whereas all AL and NL teams are involved in interleague play, but this must have been too obvious as well.
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              • SPTO
                binging
                • Feb 2003
                • 68046

                #22
                Re: Do you have any respect for any pro league commish?

                The last commish I had total respect for was Pete Rozelle. Roger Goodell could easily earn my respect depending on how he handles the Buffalo situation. The rest of em are clowns.
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                • TheGamingChef
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 3384

                  #23
                  Re: Do you have any respect for any pro league commish?

                  Originally posted by dkgojackets
                  The simplest answer is that Chicago would be playing a team outside of the NFL whereas both the AL and NL are part of MLB, but that would make too much sense.
                  Then I guess you don't understand the MLB. Let me put it this way. The NFL is a league (hence the "L") with two conferences. The conferences are basically interchangable. It's still one league, though. The same holds true for the AFL.

                  Major League Baseball is composed of two separate leagues - the National League and the American League. They don't even play by the same rules. These two separate, distinct leagues are supposed to bring their champions forth at the end of the season to determine which is the best team in the world. They aren't supposed to play each other at any other time in the season, period.

                  Originally posted by dkgojackets
                  There's also the fact that Chicago would be the only team doing this whereas all AL and NL teams are involved in interleague play, but this must have been too obvious as well.
                  Fine, let's have every single team do this. The Eagles will have to play the 13-3 Soul, though. But the Chiefs get to play the 3-13 Brigade. That sounds better, doesn't it!

                  (My point here being, if you can't understand, is that the discrepancy in teams' schedules gets much wider with interleague play. Everyone in the same division should play the same schedule... but that doesn't hold true with interleague! The White Sox have to play the Cubs... but the Indians get to play the Reds.

                  And in the MLB, where one or two games can make the difference between the playoffs - hell, between a World Series win - or staying home, this schedule discrepancy is downright laughable.

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                  • dkgojackets
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 13816

                    #24
                    Re: Do you have any respect for any pro league commish?

                    Originally posted by TheGamingChef
                    Then I guess you don't understand the MLB. Let me put it this way. The NFL is a league (hence the "L") with two conferences. The conferences are basically interchangable. It's still one league, though. The same holds true for the AFL.

                    Major League Baseball is composed of two separate leagues - the National League and the American League. They don't even play by the same rules. These two separate, distinct leagues are supposed to bring their champions forth at the end of the season to determine which is the best team in the world. They aren't supposed to play each other at any other time in the season, period.
                    What are you talking about man? There's one commissioner. The same umpiring crews. Same television contract. Same collective bargaining agreement. Same draft. It's one league.

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                    • dkgojackets
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                      • Mar 2005
                      • 13816

                      #25
                      Re: Do you have any respect for any pro league commish?

                      Originally posted by TheGamingChef
                      Fine, let's have every single team do this. The Eagles will have to play the 13-3 Soul, though. But the Chiefs get to play the 3-13 Brigade. That sounds better, doesn't it!

                      (My point here being, if you can't understand, is that the discrepancy in teams' schedules gets much wider with interleague play. Everyone in the same division should play the same schedule... but that doesn't hold true with interleague! The White Sox have to play the Cubs... but the Indians get to play the Reds.

                      And in the MLB, where one or two games can make the difference between the playoffs - hell, between a World Series win - or staying home, this schedule discrepancy is downright laughable.
                      Right because every other sport ensures that each team plays the same schedule. Excellent point, don't know how I let that one get by me.

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                      • TheGamingChef
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                        • Jun 2006
                        • 3384

                        #26
                        Re: Do you have any respect for any pro league commish?

                        Originally posted by dkgojackets
                        What are you talking about man? There's one commissioner. The same umpiring crews. Same television contract. Same collective bargaining agreement. Same draft. It's one league.
                        Like I said, the American League and National League are not the same league. They don't even play by the same rules.

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                        • TheGamingChef
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 3384

                          #27
                          Re: Do you have any respect for any pro league commish?

                          Originally posted by dkgojackets
                          Right because every other sport ensures that each team plays the same schedule. Excellent point, don't know how I let that one get by me.
                          I never said that... I just said that was the way it should be, and in a sport like baseball where you have 162 games to work with, every team in the same division should play the same schedule. Interleague play makes that all but impossible. Is that too difficult to understand

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                          • dkgojackets
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 13816

                            #28
                            Re: Do you have any respect for any pro league commish?

                            Originally posted by TheGamingChef
                            Like I said, the American League and National League are not the same league. They don't even play by the same rules.
                            Except for

                            Originally posted by dkgojackets
                            There's one commissioner. The same umpiring crews. Same television contract. Same collective bargaining agreement. Same draft. It's one league.

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                            • TheGamingChef
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                              • Jun 2006
                              • 3384

                              #29
                              Re: Do you have any respect for any pro league commish?

                              Originally posted by dkgojackets
                              Except for
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                              • dkgojackets
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 13816

                                #30
                                Re: Do you have any respect for any pro league commish?

                                Originally posted by TheGamingChef
                                I never said that... I just said that was the way it should be, and in a sport like baseball where you have 162 games to work with, every team in the same division should play the same schedule. Interleague play makes that all but impossible. Is that too difficult to understand
                                lol, having 162 games makes playing the exact same schedule less important than all the other sports. Do you see why?

                                You seem to be moving away though from contending that having just the Bears play an AFL team is the same as interleague play, so at least that's progress.

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