Parapelegic rams cops and tosses urine from catheter bag

[Knight165]

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.....and in true lawyer form...you stuffed so much B.S. into one space that you had to put the font on negative 10 to fit it
When you could have just said what most everyone else on O.S. says.....you know...the cool thing to do....watch ....two words....
BACON SUCKS!:wink:

M.K.
Knight165

[Double Eights]

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This will be my only post, as I don't want to get into politics (more than there is already).

The only thing I have to say is that if people want to free they NEED to know their rights and freely exercise said rights. Lawyers are only necessary for those who are too lazy to do the research themselves. I can get by without a lawyer, but they are nice to have, as they are much more educated than those without a legal background.

Lawyers are a luxury, not a necessity, but to say they serve no purpose is foolish.

[baumy300]

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I kind of want to elaborate on Nole's post, yet I don't really want to spend that much time getting into it as well.

I'll just say that there are Officers who are pieces of ****, and there are attorneys that are pieces of ****. The majority of officers are good people, and I would like to believe that the majority of lawyers are good people. It all just depends on which side of the law you reside on most of the time.

When you get a speeding ticket, cops are your enemy. When someone hits your vehicle and drives off, assaults a loved one, or breaks into your home, they are the first people you call and your best friend. The same can be said about lawyers. They will help you if you ever find yourself in a questionable legal matter, or they will work against by freeing the man who hit your vehicle, beat up your brother, and stole your stereo.

It's a two way street.

[RAZRr1275]

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I kind of want to elaborate on Nole's post, yet I don't really want to spend that much time getting into it as well.

I'll just say that there are Officers who are pieces of ****, and there are attorneys that are pieces of ****. The majority of officers are good people, and I would like to believe that the majority of lawyers are good people. It all just depends on which side of the law you reside on most of the time.

When you get a speeding ticket, cops are your enemy. When someone hits your vehicle and drives off, assaults a loved one, or breaks into your home, they are the first people you call and your best friend. The same can be said about lawyers. They will help you if you ever find yourself in a questionable legal matter, or they will work against by freeing the man who hit your vehicle, beat up your brother, and stole your stereo.

It's a two way street.

They also could be your enemy if you call them depending on what happens. They could not protect you or your family well enough or not catch the perp.

[baumy300]

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They also could be your enemy if you call them depending on what happens. They could not protect you or your family well enough or not catch the perp.

So they are your "enemy" because the "bad" guy who did whatever had managed to escape they got there?

And you say that even if you call the police, depending on what has happened of course, they could still turn around and punish you, even though you called them, right?

This is true. Sometimes people call the police with a legitimate complaint. Guess what? Sometimes those people are either stupid or wanted. People have called the police before to complain about a noise violation or something stupid next door. When the police come to get the statement from the person reporting it, they find out that the caller has a warrant out for his arrest or just happens to have a bag of weed sitting on his kitchen table. Don't laugh, because it happens.

Now, should that person get a pass because they called and reported a possible crime? Really, even though they were in the wrong, and were blatantly breaking a law, they should be entitled to a literal "get out of jail free" card just because they reported a traffic accident or complained about a noise violation?

It probably isn't fun to call the police to seek help and then end up being in trouble yourself, but more times than not I am sure the outcome in a situation like that is warranted.

[RAZRr1275]

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So they are your "enemy" because the "bad" guy who did whatever had managed to escape they got there?

And you say that even if you call the police, depending on what has happened of course, they could still turn around and punish you, even though you called them, right?

This is true. Sometimes people call the police with a legitimate complaint. Guess what? Sometimes those people are either stupid or wanted. People have called the police before to complain about a noise violation or something stupid next door. When the police come to get the statement from the person reporting it, they find out that the caller has a warrant out for his arrest or just happens to have a bag of weed sitting on his kitchen table. Don't laugh, because it happens.

Now, should that person get a pass because they called and reported a possible crime? Really, even though they were in the wrong, and were blatantly breaking a law, they should be entitled to a literal "get out of jail free" card just because they reported a traffic accident or complained about a noise violation?

It probably isn't fun to call the police to seek help and then end up being in trouble yourself, but more times than not I am sure the outcome in a situation like that is warranted.

I'm not saying that cops are my enemy. Most cops are nice guys and class acts. Like it is with everything else it's the bad ones that screw the other ones up. I haven't witnessed someone getting away with something because of the cops but a friend has had a lighter experience with that.

They called the cops because these kids were going out in the streets at 10:00 at night yelling profanity and going down the street knocking peoples garbage cans over and at one point fighting eachother. So the cops were called and instead of just sending out a squad car the person on the phone was questioning them like they had something to do with it. Mind you the friends record is ocmpletly clean. Nothing from ever. The kids saw my friend on the phone and bolted. By the time the cops got there 30-45 minutes later the kids were gone.

[baumy300]

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They called the cops because these kids were going out in the streets at 10:00 at night yelling profanity and going down the street knocking peoples garbage cans over and at one point fighting eachother. So the cops were called and instead of just sending out a squad car the person on the phone was questioning them like they had something to do with it. Mind you the friends record is ocmpletly clean. Nothing from ever. The kids saw my friend on the phone and bolted. By the time the cops got there 30-45 minutes later the kids were gone.

That's odd. It sounds like your friend was most likely speaking with someone at a Law Enforcement Center or "dispatch" as it's better known as. Usually dispatchers are not police officers, although they still do try and gather a lot of information from the original caller. There is a difference between gathering information and questioning them as well.

Like I said earlier, and like you said now, a lot of officers are great guys, and there are ones that aren't. The same could be said about every race, every occupation, and every person who is part of a group in general.

Officers just get targeted and labeled poorly because even good people have more negative experiences with them than good. People just don't like admitting they have done wrong sometimes and taking responsibility for their actions. You mix that in with a bad officer and it is easy to see why people are not fond of them.

[Double Eights]

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Officers just get targeted and labeled poorly because even good people have more negative experiences with them than good. People just don't like admitting they have done wrong sometimes and taking responsibility for their actions. You mix that in with a bad officer and it is easy to see why people are not fond of them.

Who is to determine what is wrong and what is not? Because some guys in fancy robes in Washington think something is wrong, that means it's wrong? (note: this is just one example)

The cops thought I was in the wrong when they caught me with marijuana, whereas I don't think I was wrong at all. I think they were wrong for acting like complete and utter dicks over something as petty as a "drug" that harms NO ONE.

Cops, in general, have no discretion and no moral responsibility. They live under the famous code of "just doing my job." They don't think twice about the consequences of their actions.

[RAZRr1275]

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Who is to determine what is wrong and what is not? Because some guys in fancy robes in Washington think something is wrong, that means it's wrong? (note: this is just one example)

The cops thought I was in the wrong when they caught me with marijuana, whereas I don't think I was wrong at all. I think they were wrong for acting like complete and utter dicks over something as petty as a "drug" that harms NO ONE.

Cops, in general, have no discretion and no moral responsibility. They live under the famous code of "just doing my job." They don't think twice about the consequences of their actions.

You realize that weed is illegal right?

[WazzuRC]

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Cops, in general, have no discretion and no moral responsibility. They live under the famous code of "just doing my job." They don't think twice about the consequences of their actions.

No offense cause you are a good poster and I don't know the entire circumstances of your plight, but you claim that cops "don't think twice about the consequences of their actions" when you in fact were the one caught with pot. I agree its idiotic and marijuana should be legalized in some form, but that is another discussion for a different forum.

I just think to say that cops don't think twice about consequences is extremely hypocritical of you when you are the one complaining how you might lose your financial aid for an offense that was your fault. Maybe you should heed your own advice.

[baumy300]

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Who is to determine what is wrong and what is not? Because some guys in fancy robes in Washington think something is wrong, that means it's wrong? (note: this is just one example)

The cops thought I was in the wrong when they caught me with marijuana, whereas I don't think I was wrong at all. I think they were wrong for acting like complete and utter dicks over something as petty as a "drug" that harms NO ONE.

Cops, in general, have no discretion and no moral responsibility. They live under the famous code of "just doing my job." They don't think twice about the consequences of their actions.

OK, let's put it this way: Do you agree with every rule at your job?

Because I don't. There are so many laws I find to be flawed or just flat out ridiculous, but guess what? I still follow/enforce them. It's not because I don't stand up for what I believe in or because I am weak, but rather because life in general just isn't fair and everywhere you go, everywhere you work, everywhere you live, you are going to have rules that you do not agree with. It's life.

That being said, banish alcohol and legalize marijuana. I'd much rather deal with someone stoned into oblivion rather than drunker than a skunk.

[Cebby]

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Who is to determine what is wrong and what is not? Because some guys in fancy robes in Washington think something is wrong, that means it's wrong? (note: this is just one example)

Congressmen don't wear robes.

[Double Eights]

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You realize that weed is illegal right?

You realize j-walking is illegal, right? You realize slavery was legal, right? You realize being naked on your own property (outside of your house) is illegal, right? You realize alcohol was illegal, right?

Just because it is illegal, or even legal, doesn't make it right.

[Double Eights]

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Congressmen don't wear robes.

Supreme Court judges do, and they have the final say. It's also why I said "this is one example" in parenthesis. I was only talking about the justices in that post.

[jim416]

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Cops, in general, have no discretion and no moral responsibility. They live under the famous code of "just doing my job." They don't think twice about the consequences of their actions.

Wow! In general? Nope we don't think twice. Good grief.

And Razr...a call about kids using profanity and knocking over trash cans is not a high priority, nobody knows what kind of calls the other cops may have been on, what the man power was like to cover that type of call, etc. And I can assure you I've gone on calls like that, and while there got an emergency call and just had to tell the people I had to split (those aren't the words I used), but stuff happens that most people aren't aware of.