School seeks to forfeit 100-0 win

[fistofrage]

Re: School seeks to forfeit 100-0 win

I don't see the relation at all. If the kids had an 8 foot center that they gave the ball to everytime, and they won 100-0, then yea, I can agree.

Playing basketball and scoring points is not cheesing.

I think most agree that full court press is over doing it. But, full court press is not cheesing either. It's just bad sportsmanship late in a game up by 100 points.

Neither is throwing a fly pattern to 99 speed receivers against a 92 speed cornerback over and over again. What's cheezy about throwing a pass and scoring points when I'm already up 91-0 in the 4th quarter. Playing football and scoring points is not cheezing, right?

Its bad sportsmanship which is basically what cheezing is. You can't tell the kids not to play as hard as they possibly can, but the coach could set up 4 corners offense, work on motion sets to kill the clock and work on some half court defenses instead of pressing.

[Cebby]

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Its bad sportsmanship which is basically what cheezing is.

That's not what cheesing is at all.

Cheesing is exploiting flaws in a game's design to the point where the opponent is pretty much helpless, not because of skill or ratings but because of a known problem with the game.

Running a regular offense is not cheesing. If a dive is going for 35 yards every time, that's probably not cheesing.

This would be more comparable to playing a team of all 0 OVR against a team of all 99s. That's not cheesing; the 0 team should get dominated.

[fistofrage]

Re: School seeks to forfeit 100-0 win

That's not what cheesing is at all.

Cheesing is exploiting flaws in a game's design to the point where the opponent is pretty much helpless, not because of skill or ratings but because of a known problem with the game.

Running a regular offense is not cheesing. If a dive is going for 35 yards every time, that's probably not cheesing.

This would be more comparable to playing a team of all 0 OVR against a team of all 99s. That's not cheesing; the 0 team should get dominated.

When you are pressing in the 4th quarter up 90-0 its cheezing. Same as throwing a bomb to your speedy receiver up by 12 touchdowns. Is the play itself cheezy? no. But at the point you know its going to work every time and you are doing it for the sole purpose of rolling the scoreboard, its cheezy.

[Chip Douglass]

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Nope, it teaches you that you suck. I have no problem with the score or anything. IMO in any sport, you know what you are comming into when you sign up to play. I feel that there should not be a mercy rule and you play to win. You dont play to win but then take it easy later. Sports are a competition and should be treated that way.

And it's not only a competition, but it's also about teaching good sportsmanship, which is a more important lesson than simply driving the other team to the ground. The point of athletics at this stage isn't to make a statement.

There was nothing stopping the coach from calling the game early, something my father did many times when his games went out of hand.

[ehh]

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This ia getting major attention now

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...y.4194876.html

That is teaching every member of the losing team some horrible life lessons.

[jake44np]

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There is also a pretty good thread on this in the basketball forum.

You know what the game should have been stopped.
But it is up to the team losing to stop the game!
At half time the losing coach should have walk over to the other locker room and told the other coach his team had had enough.
Again it is not up to the winning team to quit, what are they suppose to say?
You guys suck so we quit!!???

One man that was at the game said was the winning team only had 9 available players to play.
He said under Texas HS rules each girl is only allowed to play a certain amount of quarters per season and day. He said you can only play 100 quarters per year or 4 per day for varsity and jr varsity games combinded. He said the coach had some of his lesser players approaching this #. Some of the girls on his bench where not eligible to play because of this rule.
If this guy coached/teached at a public school there is no way he would have been fired. But because it is a private school they can do what they want with him.
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[Cebby]

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http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/012609dnspocovenantnu.2781526.html

And the winning coach speaks out.

"Grimes also included the quarter-by-quarter scoring on his post: 35, 24, 29, 12."

" Grimes said in his Sunday post that his team stopped applying full-court defensive pressure after the score reached 25-0 three minutes into the game, then dropped into a relatively benign zone defense and began resting its starters in favor of its three bench players."

If this is true, Dallas Academy's coach should just kill himself.

DA's coach claims that they stopped pressing 3 minutes into the game, but may have begun a different press later. According to the article, the winning team also only had 8 players available, so deep subbing wasn't really an option and makes complaining about playing starters idiotic.

[jake44np]

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http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...u.2781526.html

And the winning coach speaks out.

"Grimes also included the quarter-by-quarter scoring on his post: 35, 24, 29, 12."

" Grimes said in his Sunday post that his team stopped applying full-court defensive pressure after the score reached 25-0 three minutes into the game, then dropped into a relatively benign zone defense and began resting its starters in favor of its three bench players."

If this is true, Dallas Academy's coach should just kill himself.

DA's coach claims that they stopped pressing 3 minutes into the game, but may have begun a different press later. According to the article, the winning team also only had 8 players available, so deep subbing wasn't really an option and makes complaining about playing starters idiotic.

Again I was listening to a sports talk show this morning and they had a guy on that was at the game and he said he thought they played 9 players but I guess it was 8. Anyway how can you blame a guy for this margin of victory when he only had 8 players to play??

[Cebby]

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Again I was listening to a sports talk show this morning and they had a guy on that was at the game and he said he thought they played 9 players but I guess it was 8. Anyway how can you blame a guy for this margin of victory when he only had 8 players to play??

I'm agreeing with you.

The losing team's coach is just being a punk. Teach your kids to stop sucking.

[countryboy]

Re: School seeks to forfeit 100-0 win

I'm agreeing with you.

The losing team's coach is just being a punk. Teach your kids to stop sucking.

He can't. They have learning disabilities.

[Cebby]

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He can't. They have learning disabilities.

Very, very, very well played.

[OSUFan_88]

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He can't. They have learning disabilities.

I'm going to hell for laughing at that, but who really cares. That's funny.

[Koolie G]

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If the guy actually stopped pressing and only had a limited number of players who can only play a limited # of quarters (what the heck kind of rule is this? Did little league pitchers make the rules for this basketball league?), then I don't really see what the big deal is. It is unfortunate that the final score was 100-0, everyone would like for teams to be competitive. The team that lost needs to play in another league or drop girls basketball. They are getting beat by 50 points regularly. The coach shouldn't have been fired. Maybe it wasn't the greatest sportsmanship, but it looks like his hands were tied much more than anyone realized.

[jake44np]

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Most states have this rule of 4 quarters per day.
I know they do here in Indiana too. Its because varsity and jr varsity games are right after each other. You can only play a total of 4 quarters between the two games in one night.

[yamabushi]

Re: School seeks to forfeit 100-0 win

And now the winning coach is fired.