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  • Brankles
    Banned
    • May 2003
    • 5113

    #61
    Re: Town scolds mayor over his skimpy skirt

    Originally posted by Stumbleweed
    LOL, I can't believe you quoted "facts" from a document from the Traditional Values Coalition with a sub-topic "Homosexual Agenda", which asserts that being born gay is an "urban legend"...
    That's why I quoted facts from an actual study done, not their opinion. I said I hated that site for a reason. That doesn't change the fact that 49% of homosexuals a licensed doctor did a study on were found to be abused as children.

    As to the first point, those people (pedophiles, bestiality uh, enthusiasts) are hurting people/things who don't have the capability to make sound decisions for themselves. Taking advantage of a child, whether due to in inborn proclivity or due to a mental shift caused by abuse earlier in life is inherently wrong simply because the child isn't a capable party to the relationship/encounter. Same with animals -- we defend them (the cute ones that we don't want to eat, anyway) because they. for the most part, don't have the mental faculties to defend themselves from a human perpetrator.

    If gay people were going around and ****ing kids (numbers don't back up that most pedophiles are gay, BTW) then maybe there's a concern, but those aren't gay people, those are pedophiles (some of whom also happen to be gay). When two mentally-capable adults choose to have sex or build a romantic relationship with one another, that's their decision and it's beyond me why people want to change that... seems incredibly narcissistic to me to push your views that heavily on others.
    I grouped them together because they are all sexual perversions which deviate heavily from the social and natural norm. If people were broken down into only three groups, pedophiles, beastiality and homosexuals, the human race would end.

    My argument was not that gay people hurt others or that pedophiles are gay, you just decided to throw that in there for whatever reason. Same thing with children and animals not being able to defend themselves. It's like AlexBrady with the random NBA player breakdown lol. You're right about what you wrote, but it didn't have much to do at all with what I said.

    And if I'm being incredibly narcissistic for pushing my views on people, then that makes you incredibly narcissistic and incredibly hypocritical at the same time. I've already said my personal viewpoints, that I disagree with their lifestyle but let them live in peace. I'm not out in the streets with "God Hates Gays" signs, I can really care less about the whole debate because it doesn't personally effect me. This is just the way I feel because it makes the most sense to me, the same way you feel about your view point, I'm sure.

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    • ex carrabba fan
      I'll thank him for you
      • Oct 2004
      • 32744

      #62
      Re: Town scolds mayor over his skimpy skirt

      Originally posted by MassNole
      And that is a two way street.
      That's why it'd be better if they died out, so it doesn't force the other side to sink to their level.

      Using language like sexual perversions when referring to homosexuality is not inflammatory at all..
      Last edited by ex carrabba fan; 08-05-2009, 12:46 PM.

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      • deaduck
        MVP
        • Mar 2009
        • 2389

        #63
        Re: Town scolds mayor over his skimpy skirt

        Originally posted by ~LiverpoolRed~
        This needs to be locked up.
        Maybe they're hoping it'll get back on topic about the mini dress as an appropriate outfit for a elected official.
        Last edited by deaduck; 08-05-2009, 12:48 PM.

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        • onlybygrace
          MVP
          • Jan 2009
          • 3782

          #64
          Re: Town scolds mayor over his skimpy skirt

          I want to apologize for my involvement in this thread. I should have known better than to get into a moral debate on the internet...much less a moral debate about a cross-dressing politician.

          What the hell was I thinking???

          My bad...sorry mods.

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          • Stumbleweed
            Livin' the dream
            • Oct 2006
            • 6279

            #65
            Re: Town scolds mayor over his skimpy skirt

            I'm not denying anyone's rights by saying that the viewpoints expressed in this thread disgust me (and neither are you by saying that you are disgusted or whatever). The difference is that with society's backing, people who don't like GLBT people or think they're wrong can and do deny rights, which is the real issue here. I don't give a damn what you think and you don't have to give a damn about what I think, but denying people rights on this basis is wrong, simply put.

            MassNole, it's absolutely a two-way street.. we both expressed our viewpoints and agree to disagree. The difference is that your viewpoint has been backed up with legislation, etc. that denies legal and civil rights to people based on their sexual orientation. We have laws on the books that are supposed to prevent employment discrimination on this basis, but we still sit idly by while politicians and lobbying groups deny basic rights that heterosexuals enjoy such as parental rights, hospital visitation rights, power of attorney, etc. to GLBT individuals?
            Last edited by Stumbleweed; 08-05-2009, 12:54 PM.
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            • ex carrabba fan
              I'll thank him for you
              • Oct 2004
              • 32744

              #66
              Re: Town scolds mayor over his skimpy skirt

              You can't expect to have a discussion when you compare "them" to murderers/pedo's. And then to try and justify the comparison by saying, "they are all sexual perversions and because they deviate from society".. Really?

              And now your opposition is narcissistic and hypocritical?

              That's why I don't have hope for my lifetime.

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              • Brankles
                Banned
                • May 2003
                • 5113

                #67
                Re: Town scolds mayor over his skimpy skirt

                Originally posted by Stumbleweed
                I'm not denying anyone's rights by saying that the viewpoints expressed in this thread disgust me (and neither are you by saying that you are disgusted or whatever). The difference is that with society's backing, people who don't like GLBT people or think they're wrong can and do deny rights, which is the real issue here. I don't give a damn what you think and you don't have to give a damn about what I think, but denying people rights on this basis is wrong, simply put.
                There are certain places where certain rights are understandably limited. In this instance, if you are representing a group of people, and part of your job is being responsible for influencing other people in power and working with them, you should not be wearing a skirt so short that your dingaling is about to fall out and be shown to the world. The guy looks like a common street whore, male or female or transvestite. Most politicians would be offended if anyone walked into their office looking like that, trying to do business. What if Phil Jackson came into the locker room the first game of the season and was rocking an Erin Andrews outfit? He would lose his job immediately. He would lose respect, command of his team and power.

                Where do we draw the line? To use the old cliche line that all of the right wing nutsos say, "We can't be so open-minded that our brains fall out." This mayor needs to keep his personal life and his professional life in two separate worlds, because they are clearly clashing.


                Pantsuit FTW

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                • Pappy Knuckles
                  LORDTHUNDERBIRD
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 15966

                  #68
                  Re: Town scolds mayor over his skimpy skirt

                  Well said, Brankles.

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                  • Stumbleweed
                    Livin' the dream
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 6279

                    #69
                    Re: Town scolds mayor over his skimpy skirt

                    That's why people are upset -- it's not behavior conducive to being a public official... it still has absolutely nothing to do with his sexual orientation. If that's accepting people's perceptions of him and affecting his ability to get things done as a public official, then of course people will say it's an issue. This person doesn't speak for the GLBT community, isn't their representative, and his behavior/manner of dress isn't consistent with the vast majority of GLBT individuals. It's an isolated incident of a mayor dressing inappropriately and nothing more.

                    In a small town near my hometown, the Mayor was flashing her breasts in public at bars and went on Jerry Springer after the scandal broke... she was recall voted out of office less than a month later. This situation is no different... if they feel he can't do his job because of this, that's their right to vote him out the next cycle or recall him.

                    "What if Phil Jackson came into the locker room the first game of the season and was rocking an Erin Andrews outfit? He would lose his job immediately."

                    ...And then he'd win a wrongful termination/discrimination lawsuit backed by the ACLU and clean Dr. Buss the **** out in addition to getting the rest of his contract paid. That's what would happen. Because it would be wrong and illegal to fire someone on that basis... there are laws on the books specifically prohibiting this exact thing, even in this sexually-repressed and bigot-filled country.
                    Last edited by Stumbleweed; 08-05-2009, 01:25 PM.
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                    • Brankles
                      Banned
                      • May 2003
                      • 5113

                      #70
                      Re: Town scolds mayor over his skimpy skirt

                      Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                      You can't expect to have a discussion when you compare "them" to murderers/pedo's. And then to try and justify the comparison by saying, "they are all sexual perversions and because they deviate from society".. Really?
                      Yes, really. If everyone was a psychopathic murderer, homosexual, pedophile, or was into beastiality, the world would quickly come to an end. They are not all the same things, but they are similar in some respects, which I've already explained. Tendencies involving mixes of personal decisions, nurturing (or lack of it during formative years), bad experiences, etc. that all lead to unnatural behavior.

                      You're being simple if you think I'm trying to say that a murderer and a homosexual and a pedophile are all on the same moral and social level.

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                      • sb24
                        MVP
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 3165

                        #71
                        Re: Town scolds mayor over his skimpy skirt

                        Originally posted by Brankles
                        This mayor needs to keep his personal life and his professional life in two separate worlds, because they are clearly clashing.
                        Actually they are not. They voted him knowing what he was doing. I remember reading the article about him when he was elected. The town doesnt care about what he does, they have a problem that the skirt he wore wouldnt be acceptable for anyone to wear.

                        The town isnt scolding him for wearing a skirt.
                        The town is scolding him for wearing a skirt that is too short for anyone to wear(as a mayor)

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                        • ezekiel55
                          Th*s F*c* C*sh*s Ch*cks
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 2156

                          #72
                          Re: Town scolds mayor over his skimpy skirt

                          Originally posted by onlybygrace
                          I'm only gonna say one more thing...

                          I think its very funny that those who claim to be the tolorant ones are the ones that resort to insults and presumptions, all the while claiming to be tolorant.

                          You're method of debate has displayed more intolerance than anything I've said here.

                          I'm a bigot and a racist??? Wow...news to me. I've had many gay friends despite the fact that I didn't agree with their sexual practices. They are some of the coolest people, funnest to hang out with, that I've ever met.

                          Doesn't mean that I let them determine my convictions or stance on certain issues.

                          You're not gonna change me, I'm not gonna change you...lets leave it at that, eh?
                          Ahah...the old intolerance of intolerance argument...good luck with that.

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                          • Brankles
                            Banned
                            • May 2003
                            • 5113

                            #73
                            Re: Town scolds mayor over his skimpy skirt

                            Originally posted by sb24
                            Actually they are not. They voted him knowing what he was doing. I remember reading the article about him when he was elected. The town doesnt care about what he does, they have a problem that the skirt he wore wouldnt be acceptable for anyone to wear.

                            The town isnt scolding him for wearing a skirt.
                            The town is scolding him for wearing a skirt that is too short for anyone to wear(as a mayor)
                            Well if he's wearing a miniskirt because he personally thinks it looks good, then that is part of his personal world. What he wears to clubs can be saved for Saturday evenings. Or if this is his work clothes, I can't imagine what he wears on weekends

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                            • Brankles
                              Banned
                              • May 2003
                              • 5113

                              #74
                              Re: Town scolds mayor over his skimpy skirt

                              Originally posted by Stumbleweed
                              "What if Phil Jackson came into the locker room the first game of the season and was rocking an Erin Andrews outfit? He would lose his job immediately."

                              ...And then he'd win a wrongful termination/discrimination lawsuit backed by the ACLU and clean Dr. Buss the **** out in addition to getting the rest of his contract paid. That's what would happen. Because it would be wrong and illegal to fire someone on that basis... there are laws on the books specifically prohibiting this exact thing, even in this sexually-repressed and bigot-filled country.
                              LOL
                              Not if Buss had a good attorney.

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                              • MassNole
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 18848

                                #75
                                Re: Town scolds mayor over his skimpy skirt

                                Originally posted by Brankles
                                LOL
                                Not if Buss had a good attorney.
                                That and pro sports contracts are a different beast, under that example Jackson could easily be terminated under conduct unbecoming to the image of the team.

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