What do you guys think - Wrong or Justified?

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  • Knight165
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    • Feb 2003
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    #16
    Re: What do you guys think - Wrong or Justified?

    No way.
    First shot could have been self defense. Seems likely.
    The following shots are murder unless the kid was reaching for a weapon.
    However, if that kid had been responsible for the death of a loved one....yeah, I probably would have finished him and taken my time behind bars. That's about the only time I would be a truly vengeful person(I'm not proud of it either...just how I feel).

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    • mburke2
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      • Jan 2010
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      #17
      Re: What do you guys think - Wrong or Justified?

      Originally posted by GAMEC0CK2002
      He became a vigilante after the first shot.
      I agree with this wholeheartedly. Initial shot was self-defense, everything afterwards was straight murder.
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      • NDAlum
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        • Jun 2010
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        #18
        Re: What do you guys think - Wrong or Justified?

        So they convicted of 1st degree? Wow it must've been an all (manslaughter) or nothing (1st degree) trial.

        I wouldn't classify this as 1st degree. 2nd degree seems to fit the second round of shots.
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        • Scottdau
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          • Feb 2003
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          #19
          Re: What do you guys think - Wrong or Justified?

          It was wrong. He should go away for a long time too.

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          • Scottdau
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            • Feb 2003
            • 32580

            #20
            Re: What do you guys think - Wrong or Justified?

            Originally posted by NDAlum
            So they convicted of 1st degree? Wow it must've been an all (manslaughter) or nothing (1st degree) trial.

            I wouldn't classify this as 1st degree. 2nd degree seems to fit the second round of shots.
            He came back and shot him dead. How is that not 1st degree?

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            • TheShizNo1
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              • Mar 2007
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              #21
              Originally posted by Scottdau
              It was wrong. He should go away for a long time too.
              The world doesn't operate in black and white, right and wrong.
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              • Marino
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                • Jan 2008
                • 18113

                #22
                Re: What do you guys think - Wrong or Justified?

                Originally posted by NDAlum
                So they convicted of 1st degree? Wow it must've been an all (manslaughter) or nothing (1st degree) trial.

                I wouldn't classify this as 1st degree. 2nd degree seems to fit the second round of shots.
                Should be 2nd degree, he killed in a fit of rage it looks like, not meditated.

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                • Scottdau
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                  • Feb 2003
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                  #23
                  Re: What do you guys think - Wrong or Justified?

                  When a guy come back and then go gets another gun and then shoot somebody 5 times how is that not first degree? I mean really what I am missing here?

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                  • Marino
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                    • Jan 2008
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                    #24
                    Re: What do you guys think - Wrong or Justified?

                    Originally posted by Scottdau
                    When a guy come back and then go gets another gun and then shoot somebody 5 times how is that not first degree? I mean really what I am missing here?
                    Wasn't premeditated. He didn't think it out. It was obvious the guy wasn't in his right mind. 1st degree is murder planned out.

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                    • Scottdau
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                      • Feb 2003
                      • 32580

                      #25
                      Re: What do you guys think - Wrong or Justified?

                      Originally posted by TheShizNo1
                      The world doesn't operate in black and white, right and wrong.
                      The kid was down to shoot him five times is just wrong. What he should have done was call the police and not go back into the store.

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                      • Scottdau
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                        • Feb 2003
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                        #26
                        Re: What do you guys think - Wrong or Justified?

                        Originally posted by Marino
                        Wasn't premeditated. He didn't think it out. It was obvious the guy wasn't in his right mind. 1st degree is murder planned out.
                        Wait! He didn't think about it. He went and got another gun. And then he shot him 5 times. To me that is thinking about something. Why did he get another gun?

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                        • Marino
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                          • Jan 2008
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                          #27
                          Re: What do you guys think - Wrong or Justified?

                          Originally posted by Scottdau
                          The kid was down to shoot him five times is just wrong. What he should have done was call the police and not go back into the store.
                          World doesn't operate in black and white.

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                          • Scottdau
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 32580

                            #28
                            Re: What do you guys think - Wrong or Justified?

                            Originally posted by Marino
                            World doesn't operate in black and white.
                            Come on now. You really don't think this is wrong what he did?

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                            • Marino
                              Moderator
                              • Jan 2008
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                              #29
                              Re: What do you guys think - Wrong or Justified?

                              Originally posted by Scottdau
                              Wait! He didn't think about it. He went and got another gun. And then he shot him 5 times. To me that is thinking about something. Why did he get another gun?
                              He didn't plan it out. He was obviously being influenced by anger. His mind was blocked out of a normal person thinking. That's 2nd degree.

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                              • Marino
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                                • Jan 2008
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                                #30
                                Re: What do you guys think - Wrong or Justified?

                                Originally posted by Scottdau
                                Come on now. You really don't think this is wrong what he did?
                                Didn't say it was, but just because you handle the situation one way doesn't mean everyone will. He probably has a silent alarm and already triggered it.

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