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  • roadman
    *ll St*r
    • Aug 2003
    • 26339

    #46
    Re: The Talk...With the Boss

    Originally posted by ehh
    The time is here for me...

    I received an offer on a position tonight that's about a 20% raise, full medical (don't have at my current job) and 401k (ditto). It's a significantly better opportunity, we'll see how my boss reacts tomorrow when I break the news.
    Congrats!!

    Are you looking for a counter?

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    • ehh
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2003
      • 28962

      #47
      Re: The Talk...With the Boss

      No, a counter isn't realistic to be honest. My current employer is so small that they don't have the financial security to counter, nor the career growth/opportunities.

      Of course my boss was not in the office today, guess I'll have to do it tomorrow.
      "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

      "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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      • kingkilla56
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jun 2009
        • 19395

        #48
        Re: The Talk...With the Boss

        My friend recently broke it to his internship boss that an Engineer firm offered him a full-time full status job. He said that his boss went ballistic and told him to "get your **** out immediately". Something about being upset that interns always leave too soon. Im thinking, isnt that the freaking point? You'd think an intern boss would be happy that a kid is getting his life's career rolling.
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        • Lieutenant Dan
          All Star
          • Sep 2007
          • 5679

          #49
          Re: The Talk...With the Boss

          Originally posted by kingkilla56
          My friend recently broke it to his internship boss that an Engineer firm offered him a full-time full status job. He said that his boss went ballistic and told him to "get your **** out immediately". Something about being upset that interns always leave too soon. Im thinking, isnt that the freaking point? You'd think an intern boss would be happy that a kid is getting his life's career rolling.
          Huh. Speaking from experience, that might have been a 'last straw' scenario for the boss that day. As in, he was going to go off on whomever came in and told him news he may not have wanted to hear.
          GO 'HAWKS!

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          • ehh
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2003
            • 28962

            #50
            Re: The Talk...With the Boss

            Originally posted by kingkilla56
            My friend recently broke it to his internship boss that an Engineer firm offered him a full-time full status job. He said that his boss went ballistic and told him to "get your **** out immediately". Something about being upset that interns always leave too soon. Im thinking, isnt that the freaking point? You'd think an intern boss would be happy that a kid is getting his life's career rolling.
            If that's how the boss reacted then your friend definitely made the right choice. Unprofessional, selfish and short-sighted move on the boss' part, but that's life.

            I think it's a coin flip that my boss will react in the same fashion tomorrow.
            "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

            "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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            • 23
              yellow
              • Sep 2002
              • 66469

              #51
              Originally posted by ehh
              If that's how the boss reacted then your friend definitely made the right choice. Unprofessional, selfish and short-sighted move on the boss' part, but that's life.

              I think it's a coin flip that my boss will react in the same fashion tomorrow.
              I was going to say that

              it's better your friend did move on

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              • ehh
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2003
                • 28962

                #52
                Re: The Talk...With the Boss

                My talk went very well today, my boss responded as any boss that truly cares should. He congratulated me on the opportunity and said he'd work with me to make sure the exit transition is smooth - and that no bridges are burned between him and I. That meant a lot to me. Overall it could not have gone better.
                "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                • roadman
                  *ll St*r
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 26339

                  #53
                  Re: The Talk...With the Boss

                  Originally posted by ehh
                  My talk went very well today, my boss responded as any boss that truly cares should. He congratulated me on the opportunity and said he'd work with me to make sure the exit transition is smooth - and that no bridges are burned between him and I. That meant a lot to me. Overall it could not have gone better.
                  And that is the way it is suppose go, professional and a clean break.

                  Nice going.

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                  • mgoblue
                    Go Wings!
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 25477

                    #54
                    Re: The Talk...With the Boss

                    Originally posted by roadman
                    And that is the way it is suppose go, professional and a clean break.

                    Nice going.
                    Totally...how mine was when I quit my last job, burning bridges is horrible. It's all about connections for jobs, so having good refs and connections is worthwhile.
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                    • CMH
                      Making you famous
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 26203

                      #55
                      Re: The Talk...With the Boss

                      Need to update you guys.

                      I'm still at my current position, only because the gig offers haven't been coming in. I think it's just a bad time of the year as most production is dead during the winter time.

                      So, I'm here at least making money. My boss doesn't seem to think I'm serious. I did tell him to start December 1st by finding a replacement. Instead he responded by finding ways to take away the responsibilities I told him I didn't want and then pretty much laughing off my talk of leaving as if I was just talking crazy.

                      I'm not even gonna get into it. I told him what I want to do and while I'm appreciative of him making some changes (or attempting to as none have actually happened yet), I no longer care about leaving the very moment I'm offered a chance to work on set.

                      We will see how serious he thinks I am then.
                      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                      "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                      • Lieutenant Dan
                        All Star
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 5679

                        #56
                        Re: The Talk...With the Boss

                        Jeez, your boss do denial much? LOL
                        GO 'HAWKS!

                        OS Dibs: Anna Kendrick

                        Elite Dangerous on One X has become my life.

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                        "Best of Both Worlds"

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                        • mgoblue
                          Go Wings!
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 25477

                          #57
                          Re: The Talk...With the Boss

                          Originally posted by CMH
                          Need to update you guys.

                          I'm still at my current position, only because the gig offers haven't been coming in. I think it's just a bad time of the year as most production is dead during the winter time.

                          So, I'm here at least making money. My boss doesn't seem to think I'm serious. I did tell him to start December 1st by finding a replacement. Instead he responded by finding ways to take away the responsibilities I told him I didn't want and then pretty much laughing off my talk of leaving as if I was just talking crazy.

                          I'm not even gonna get into it. I told him what I want to do and while I'm appreciative of him making some changes (or attempting to as none have actually happened yet), I no longer care about leaving the very moment I'm offered a chance to work on set.

                          We will see how serious he thinks I am then.
                          He's in denial, but I'd see this as awesome for you.

                          You get things better at the current job until you can get enough outside stuff to leave. Perfect situation IMO.
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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203

                            #58
                            Re: The Talk...With the Boss

                            Yes. It's good. I'm basically doing what I wanted to do and that's train someone to do some of the things I currently do. I don't think this person is a suitable replacement, but as long as someone else is learning, I'll feel more comfortable with leaving.

                            I'm also connecting with a film friend and going to discuss plans we once had to work together and start our own company. Scary stuff for me, but it will keep me doing what I want, and I'd be able to control more of my day-to-day.

                            He's already working alone doing a lot of camera work and editing. I've actually hired him a couple times to film some small videos, so I know he's more than capable and we have always got along very well. Working with him, developing a business together is more than ideal. He's the only person I could do that with confidently.
                            "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                            • ehh
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 28962

                              #59
                              Re: The Talk...With the Boss

                              My path has taken quite a drastic turn. I resigned from my new position less than a month after I started. It's a small outfit, less than a dozen employees. The way my boss/the owner treats his employees disgusts me. I couldn't take it anymore.

                              He yelled at the office manager today, for the umpteenth time, for a minor thing that he was never clear about. He talks down to so many people, the tension in our office when he's around is unbearable. He has a snarky or useless retort for important questions. Every employee there is unhappy.

                              He demands us to be super flexible but doesn't reciprocate it one iota to us. I worked 60 hours last week (I'm salaried for 45) including until 9pm on Friday but if I want to take a doctor's appointment during the week I have to burn half a vacation day. I got a dirty look for leaving tonight at 6pm - there were no emergencies or pressing issues AND this was after I told him I was leaving.

                              We're basically viewed as consultants in his eyes. We must have every minute of our day recorded as billable time to a client. He wants us to stay late every night so he can still bill clients for our time without paying us for it. If I work 5:30-9 it's 3.5 hours that he gets to bill our clients without paying me. Now I could understand this if it's an emergency or if I get some flexibility in return (a longer lunch one day, work from home one day, get out at 3pm on a slow Friday, etc. Which is how things worked at my previous job fwiw.)

                              So now I'm in an interesting situation, he wants me to stay until he finds a replacement. Of course he does, he runs his business solely by the numbers and if I leave it'll throw things off a bit. I've only been there 3 weeks and two days, I don't have any ties to clients or anything. I never want to burn bridges or pull a dick move but at this point I'm about to say **** it and just stop showing up.

                              And the best part is, my old boss at my previous gig (that I talked about earlier in this thread) offered me a new role and will match my 20% raise that I got at this new job. I obviously accepted already. So I can show up to his business tomorrow and be a very happy man again. What to do, what to do...
                              "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                              "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                              • CMH
                                Making you famous
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 26203

                                #60
                                I don't think it's a question.


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                                "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                                "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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