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There is nothing wrong with common core math and the only reason parents don't like it is because they don't understand how it works.

[TheShizNo1]

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There is nothing wrong with common core math and the only reason parents don't like it is because they don't understand how it works.

That and it's standardized tests need to gtfo of here

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[XtremeDunkz]

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That and it's standardized tests need to gtfo of here

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common core is terrible and I see nothing wrong with standardized tests

[TheShizNo1]

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common core is terrible and I see nothing wrong with standardized tests

Because your income isn't tied to it. Or maybe it is and you're a helluva teacher.

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[dickey1331]

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Because your income isn't tied to it. Or maybe it is and you're a helluva teacher.

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If they got rid of standardized testing. What would you put in place of it?

[dickey1331]

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There is nothing wrong with common core math and the only reason parents don't like it is because they don't understand how it works.

What makes common core better than what we all grew up learning?

[TheShizNo1]

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If they got rid of standardized testing. What would you put in place of it?

Nothing. What's the point of grades and ACT/SAT scores if standardized testing is the be all end all?

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[dickey1331]

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Nothing. What's the point of grades and ACT/SAT scores if standardized testing is the be all end all?

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How would you make sure each student is getting taught correctly and each teacher is doing a good job? I agree it's not a great system but I don't know what would be better.

[TheShizNo1]

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How would you make sure each student is getting taught correctly and each teacher is doing a good job? I agree it's not a great system but I don't know what would be better.

Teachers get evaluated in other ways as well but that varies from state to state. We have something called otes which the standardized test scores factor into. As of right now, there is no clear cut way to check for what you're asking. Many kids come into school with little to no support at home and is pretty much guaranteed to be a cycle kid. That shouldn't fall on the teacher. Every school isn't East Side High.

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[Gotmadskillzson]

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[dickey1331]

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Teachers get evaluated in other ways as well but that varies from state to state. We have something called otes which the standardized test scores factor into. As of right now, there is no clear cut way to check for what you're asking. Many kids come into school with little to no support at home and is pretty much guaranteed to be a cycle kid. That shouldn't fall on the teacher. Every school isn't East Side High.

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Yeah I agree parents play a big role and that's a big problem today but I feel like standardized testing is a necessary evil to make sure kids have a minimum knowledge for each grade or whenever they take the tests.

In Texas you took the test 3 or 4 times throughout your time from K-12. If you failed you couldn't advanced to the next grade but they had some sort of summer school thing that if you did that then you could advance to the next grade. Teachers had a much bigger say if you passed or not.

I know teachers didn't like standardized testing because you had to teach to the test instead of other things and I completely understand that frustration but like I said earlier each student should have a minimum amount of knowledge and this is really the best way to make sure it's across the board.

It's unfortunate because not all school districts were as good as the one I grew up in and I'm not sure how to fix the problem. You can't make parents help their children.

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What makes common core better than what we all grew up learning?

Where did I say it was better?

I said that there is nothing wrong with it. No more, no less.

[dickey1331]

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Where did I say it was better?

I said that there is nothing wrong with it. No more, no less.

You didn't but why completely change the way you learn math if it's not better? What was wrong with the old way?

[55]

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You didn't but why completely change the way you learn math if it's not better? What was wrong with the old way?

Because it actually teaches you how and why math works. While there isn't anything inherently wrong with the old fashioned way, it was basically just memorization. Read this (all of it) and then get back to me:

http://www.salon.com/2015/11/28/youre_wrong_about_common_core_math_sorry_parents_but_it_makes_more_sense_than_you_think/

[Hassan Darkside]

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You didn't but why completely change the way you learn math if it's not better? What was wrong with the old way?

This is how the US has ranked in math since 2000.

Math

2000: the U.S was 18th among 28 OECD countries and 19th of 32 total nations.

2003: 24th among 30 OECD countries and 27th among 41 overall.

2006: 25th among 30 OECD countries and 35th among 57 overall.

2009: 25th among 34 OECD countries and 31st among 65 overall.

2012: 27th among 34 OECD countries and 36th among 65 overall.

I think it's clear that our education standards haven't been up to snuff for a long time now and something needed to change. It'll obviously take several years to get an accurate picture of the effects of common core.

I'm glad I'm not a teacher or in education because I can imagine how much of a burden this change would be, especially when they didn't learn this way growing up.

I think a lot of hostility towards it is just because it's different (along with who it came from) but I can't judge either way. I've worked with it with my 8 and 15 year old nieces and it's definitely much different than the way I learned. If it works than it works, but I can't help but feel that it's just a band aid to much larger issues with the educational system in this country.