What happened to good music?

[TheMatrix31]

Re: What happened to good music?

What I've gotten annoyed with is the local new rock station in LA, KROQ 106.7, playing all this soft Mumford & Sons-style crap or stuff that has the electronic components in them. I've actually wondered if KROQ has gone under a format change or if it's just a sign of the current "rock" scene.

[JazzMan]

Re: What happened to good music?

I enjoy Mumford and Sons, but I agree, their style is getting old. Seems that there are suddenly a lot of bands like them now, or at least similar.

On the other hand, Rob Zombie's Venomous Rat Regeneration Vendor drops tomorrow. Should be a good one!

[SinisterAlex]

Re: What happened to good music?

Just to re explain my original post. I used radio merely as a reference and nothing more. Radio never plays the lesser known artists anymore. Yes there are hundreds of good bands out there but they don't get the exposure they deserve because FM radio stations play the popular stuff that quite honestly sounds terrible. People continually listen to it so I guess they would rather play Lady Gaga or Beyonce over some lesser known artist that people have never heard of. It's a shame really. Or like MTV, they've gravitated towards the mainstream crowd and the world of reality T.V rather than put the spotlight on music and lesser known artists.

What I was trying to say that current music all sounds the same, whereas older music from the 80's and such sound different from each other.

[DaveDQ]

Re: What happened to good music?

I feel like what is somewhat lacking today is soloist that have quality vocal talent, singing very well written songs, but for the most part, my generation had Cindy Lauper doing her thing just like this generation has Lady Gaga. It's really not that different. Look at how so many go crazy over The Beatles. They wrote some awful songs that were smash hits.

But where I see music today lacking is with singers like Tony Bennet, Frank Sinatra and musicians like Chet Baker and Joe Pass. You don't see one individual really shaping music like Eddie Van Halen did or even a band like Rush...a three man band making you wonder where they are hiding the rest of the band.

[Hooe]

Re: What happened to good music?

On the other hand, Rob Zombie's Venomous Rat Regeneration Vendor drops tomorrow. Should be a good one!

Not to turn this into an "all things rock" thread, but what sort of direction did Rob Zombie go in after Hellbilly Deluxe? I liked a number of songs off that album (it was actually the first CD I ever bought myself, lol) but I then failed to keep up because nu-metal happened. Le sigh.

[ImTellinTim]

Re: What happened to good music?

What I was trying to say that current music all sounds the same, whereas older music from the 80's and such sound different from each other.

Well, I don't find this to be true at all either, lol

[Jukeman]

Record companies pay radio stations for air time. Its not that stations want to play the same four songs or artist all damn day lol.


-Shalom

[st67]

Re: What happened to good music?

Good music still exists - and there are some great artists... But times change. I love the 70's and 80's rock and metal (Mountain, Zeppelin, Metallica, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, etc)... But eras come and go - musical styles simply change. It's not that there's no good music - but there's not music like there was and there likely never will be; it was a generational thing and that generation has passed. I'm glad to see some of them still making music. Black Sabbath is giving it a go, but I'm even skeptical of that just because so much time has passed and it seems almost impossible for a musician to not be influenced by what today's music sounds like.

Personally, I have a hard time finding any newer music I like. I stick to the old stuff that I grew up with and the stuff I still love.

[The 24th Letter]

There's more music available now than ever, and more ways to obtain that music than there has ever been.

Forget what's popular, lol.

One gripe I do have, is the lack of emphasis on music videos...

[mb625]

Re: What happened to good music?

Well, when so many radio stations are owned by less companies now, you're bound to get a lot of the same music over and over on all of them.

This. So much this.
*WARNING: Nerdy post about the radio industry incoming*

Since the Telecommunications Act of 1996, radio ownership has been divided by number of stations in the market. In markets with 1-14 stations one company can own a maximum of 5 total stations and no more than 3 AM/FM and no more than one-half of stations in the market. 15-29, it's 6 total, 4 per format. 30-44 it's 7 and 4 and 45+ 8 and 5. This allows tons of stations across the country to be owned by the same company. This can certainly cause market saturation, especially when coupled with the fact that the FCC can basically ignore format abandonment issues. Basically, whatever formats get listeners will be the ones that survive, because the companies are in it for business first and foremost.

Record companies pay radio stations for air time. Its not that stations want to play the same four songs or artist all damn day lol.


-Shalom

Well, actually no. That's called payola and it's been illegal since the 60s.

What I've gotten annoyed with is the local new rock station in LA, KROQ 106.7, playing all this soft Mumford & Sons-style crap or stuff that has the electronic components in them. I've actually wondered if KROQ has gone under a format change or if it's just a sign of the current "rock" scene.

I see what you're saying, but I have to admit, I like the current movements in rock just as much as I like "traditional" hard rock.


Oh, but ultimately, I do agree, which is why, more and more, I like listening to bands that don't get much radio airplay

[Chrisksaint]

Re: What happened to good music?

...And Psy. I'm just going to stop here because you get the point.
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Of course, like King said, it's all subjective what you like and don't like, but everyone of those songs got some serious play on the radio.

Randon but I saw Passion Pit play last summer at a music festival, this chick I know dragged me over to their stage. Didn't know they were more well known until now but they put on a great show.

Back on topic tho, there is tons of good music no matter the genre you're looking for. I'm in love with the music that i've been discovering with so much Rap being out and i'm starting to get more into Rock.

[Bellsprout]

Re: What happened to good music?

Disagree, strongly.

Most pop songs sucked back in the 70's/80's too, lol. We just happen to remember things more fondly when we compare them to things today. A good example is the bowing and worshiping NFL 2k5 on this site and how people constantly compare NCAA/Madden to it.

And for every One Direction...
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Of course, like King said, it's all subjective what you like and don't like, but everyone of those songs got some serious play on the radio.

I did not peg you for an Of Monsters & Men man, sir. I salute you.

[JazzMan]

Re: What happened to good music?

Not to turn this into an "all things rock" thread, but what sort of direction did Rob Zombie go in after Hellbilly Deluxe? I liked a number of songs off that album (it was actually the first CD I ever bought myself, lol) but I then failed to keep up because nu-metal happened. Le sigh.

Sinister Urge was a lot more experimental than Hellbilly Deluxe. Had more mixtables, orchestra's, etc. Just more variety across the album.

Then he had Educated Horses. Though some Zombie fans hated it, I loved it. It was more raw, grittier, less industrial metal.

Hellbilly Deluxe 2 kind of revisited his older style, but it had a bit more of a rock and roll theme to it than metal. I still listen to it regularly.

[Jukeman]

This. So much this.
*WARNING: Nerdy post about the radio industry incoming*

Since the Telecommunications Act of 1996, radio ownership has been divided by number of stations in the market. In markets with 1-14 stations one company can own a maximum of 5 total stations and no more than 3 AM/FM and no more than one-half of stations in the market. 15-29, it's 6 total, 4 per format. 30-44 it's 7 and 4 and 45+ 8 and 5. This allows tons of stations across the country to be owned by the same company. This can certainly cause market saturation, especially when coupled with the fact that the FCC can basically ignore format abandonment issues. Basically, whatever formats get listeners will be the ones that survive, because the companies are in it for business first and foremost.



Well, actually no. That's called payola and it's been illegal since the 60s.



I see what you're saying, but I have to admit, I like the current movements in rock just as much as I like "traditional" hard rock.


Oh, but ultimately, I do agree, which is why, more and more, I like listening to bands that don't get much radio airplay

No. They actually go through 3rd party promoters. Its apart of a record label's budget..Actually it's apart of the artist's budget. But you're correct, record labels don't pay directly.

Basically major artist have a budget to influence radio airplay. Percs of being backed by a big label.


-Shalom

[mb625]

Re: What happened to good music?

No. They actually go through 3rd party promoters. Its apart of a record label's budget..Actually it's apart of the artist's budget. But you're correct, record labels don't pay directly.


-Shalom

Ah yes. Forgot about the third party loophole. Touche.