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  • longshadow11
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    • Mar 2004
    • 901

    #76
    Re: I Need To Learn How To Fight!!!

    If we're talking bar fights, then a weapon is definitely cowardly. I think you have to expect the possibility of a fight in a bar and if you're a mean drunk then stay away. I made it a policy to never mouth off in bars because you just don't know who you're dealing with. And the point was to have fun and meet girls.

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    • longshadow11
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      • Mar 2004
      • 901

      #77
      Re: I Need To Learn How To Fight!!!

      Anyway, my apologies for being a bad influence. I was thinking from the viewpoint of my world, not high school or college. And from the stuff we were taught in the army in a bad situation. We were told size does matter, don't toy around with a huge dude, find a weapon. But that's a different situation than I think what people are talking about here. Sorry about that.

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      • 55
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        • Mar 2006
        • 20857

        #78
        Re: I Need To Learn How To Fight!!!

        Originally posted by longshadow11
        And before you call me cowardly, did you serve in the military?
        No, I didn't. And just because you (or anybody else) did doesn't mean anything. The H2H you are taught in the military is meaningless if a 225 lb. man lands a haymaker to your face with the first punch of a fight. It's game over at that point no matter who you are. I know firsthand.

        And this whole topic has nothing to do with defending your family/home/property, it is about random altercations and defending yourself. At your age the likelihood of you having to worry about these things are extremely low, but the TC is much younger than we are and goes out to bars/clubs with his friends. People in that age group are much more likely to end up in a physical altercation than you and I are so their approach to these things is much different.

        Advising young people to say, "**** it, just use weapons!" is a terrible piece of advice any way you slice it.

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        • 55
          Banned
          • Mar 2006
          • 20857

          #79
          Re: I Need To Learn How To Fight!!!

          Originally posted by longshadow11
          If we're talking bar fights, then a weapon is definitely cowardly. I think you have to expect the possibility of a fight in a bar and if you're a mean drunk then stay away. I made it a policy to never mouth off in bars because you just don't know who you're dealing with. And the point was to have fun and meet girls.
          I cannot argue with this at all. I really wish certain people would have thought the same way as you with the part I bolded. I have definitely been involved in a few too many incidents that should have never happened if it weren't for some prick just having to prove a point, look tough in front of his friends, etc. I can't stand that ****.

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          • longshadow11
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            • Mar 2004
            • 901

            #80
            Re: I Need To Learn How To Fight!!!

            I'm pretty sure serving in the military does mean something, 55. I didn't say I can whip everyone's butt I come around because of it; I said I'm not a coward.

            My mistake, as I said, was not understanding the spirit of the thread. I didn't take the time to read first page or so of this thread.

            I remember my brother getting jumped at a gas station and getting beat up a little. My dad told him he should have used the pump nozzle to smack the guy back, who happened to be a lot bigger. So I'm not gonna back off on that notion. If I'm getting pounded, I'm going to hopefully get my hands on something and knock the attacker down long enough to get away. I would never use a weapon with the intent to kill, only to subdue.

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            • NDAlum
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              • Jun 2010
              • 11453

              #81
              Re: I Need To Learn How To Fight!!!

              If somebody tries to fight me in a bar they better be fast because I'm running out the door. I'm not getting fired and having my face plastered on the news.

              55 sounds like he's ready for MMA because he knocks people out.
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              • 55
                Banned
                • Mar 2006
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                #82
                Re: I Need To Learn How To Fight!!!

                Originally posted by NDAlum
                55 sounds like he's ready for MMA because he knocks people out.
                No ****ing way would I ever want to do that stuff. That's just insane, next level **** right there. Any of those guys would tear me to pieces in a heartbeat. I do heavy bag workouts three times a week, but that is strictly for cardio and stress release. That's it.

                I absolutely hate fighting nowadays (I'm 33 years old) but as I said, I will not hesitate to throw the first (two!) punches/strikes as to avoid being hit myself. I'm nowhere near the toughest son of a bitch in the world, but as someone who has had their *** handed to them a couple of times (once extremely bad) I absolutely will not hesitate if I feel there is even a slight chance I could be hurt. I'm sorry but I see no problem with that.

                My main piece of advice to the TC, who has zero fighting experience, was to try avoiding physical confrontations if at all possible. But as a LEO you should know that sometimes these situations are unavoidable. If provoked, someone with no fighting experience like him had better strike first in that situation as to not wear a beating like I did when I was younger.

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                • EAGLESFAN10
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                  • Nov 2011
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                  #83
                  Re: I Need To Learn How To Fight!!!

                  I'm 16 and had my first fight when I was 12 against a mexican who was 17 (I didn't even know the dude)

                  He won because I got tired lmfao (was my first fight)

                  After that I went to his house and ****** him up

                  Never lost a fight again
                  I've been in fights Louisville,Albany Georgia but not in one yet in Jacksonville NC

                  Im a funny and chill person to be around but some people take my kindness for granted but I guees they learned them days lmao
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                  • EAGLESFAN10
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                    • Nov 2011
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                    #84
                    Re: I Need To Learn How To Fight!!!

                    IMO the best way to learn is to actually be in a fight
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                    • mKoz26
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                      • Jan 2009
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                      #85
                      Re: I Need To Learn How To Fight!!!

                      Originally posted by 55
                      If a guy comes up to you and hits you in the face with his fists and you pick up a bat, pull a knife, etc. and attack him with it, you're the one that's going to be in deep **** from a legal standpoint if you seriously hurt the other guy with it.

                      Now if it is some sort of robbery attempt and/or it happens in your own home, that's different. But in a random bar encounter type deal, that starts out as a fist fight and one guy decides to involve weapons, the guy who brings the weapons into the equation is the one who is going to be in trouble, whether he is the one that started the altercation or not.
                      People have been killed by fists. Nobody has to abide by your false sense of honor by using only their fists.

                      Your last point is entirely untrue. You should take an interest in the law. If the fight is consensual, no, you may not escalate the force with a weapon. If it isn't, and you feel reasonably threatened, you may.
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                      • Redacted01
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                        • Aug 2007
                        • 10316

                        #86
                        Re: I Need To Learn How To Fight!!!

                        Originally posted by EAGLESFAN10
                        I'm 16 and had my first fight when I was 12 against a mexican who was 17 (I didn't even know the dude)

                        He won because I got tired lmfao (was my first fight)

                        After that I went to his house and ****** him up

                        Never lost a fight again
                        I've been in fights Louisville,Albany Georgia but not in one yet in Jacksonville NC

                        Im a funny and chill person to be around but some people take my kindness for granted but I guees they learned them days lmao
                        Lucky you didn't get charged for all kinds of **** going to his house and assaulting someone.

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                        • NDAlum
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                          • Jun 2010
                          • 11453

                          #87
                          Is there a person on Earth who lost a fight? Everyone says they never lost a fight lol


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                          • Beantown
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                            • Feb 2005
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                            #88
                            Originally posted by mKoz26
                            People have been killed by fists. Nobody has to abide by your false sense of honor by using only their fists.

                            Your last point is entirely untrue. You should take an interest in the law. If the fight is consensual, no, you may not escalate the force with a weapon. If it isn't, and you feel reasonably threatened, you may.
                            And if you use a weapon and put the other person in a coma, you're the one getting in trouble. Unless you're getting jumped by five dudes, if you're in a one-on-one bar fight and someone punches you a few times and you grab a bottle or rock or whatever would be around in a bar fight (since the OP was basically referring to basic college kid fights) you will be the one getting royally ****ed over.

                            How do I know this? One of my friends had someone break into his dorm in college and start attacking him. He stabbed the guy with a pocket knife. Guess which person got arrested, sued, and thrown out of school?

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                            • TheShizNo1
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                              • Mar 2007
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                              #89
                              I got my *** whooped in 4th grade. Didn't even realize we were fighting until halfway through.

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                              • longshadow11
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                                • Mar 2004
                                • 901

                                #90
                                Re: I Need To Learn How To Fight!!!

                                Originally posted by NDAlum
                                Is there a person on Earth who lost a fight? Everyone says they never lost a fight lol


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