Need Advice: Irresponsible Pet Owners.

[kingkilla56]

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Stable dogs dont randomly kill pets. So I can blame the owners for that failure on their part, but at the end of the day the unstable pet will always get the worst of it. If they wont take care of their dog, I will defend my pets every time, especially after loosing 4 of them; in Chase's shoes.

[mgoblue]

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Dogs and cats attacking each other sure - that happens all the time, but dogs tearing up kittens and chomping down on bigger cats isn't something I'd classify as normal dog behavior or something most dogs would do "if given the chance."

Honestly, I've seen more dogs and cats get along than I have seen them going to hell on each other.

Stable dogs dont randomly kill pets. So I can blame the owners for that failure on their part, but at the end of the day the unstable pet will always get the worst of it. If they wont take care of their dog, I will defend my pets every time, especially after loosing 4 of them; in Chase's shoes.

I'm in this mindset. We have 2 dogs, and my friend is a huge Pit Bull rescue volunteer (she helps run a rescue). There's no reason the dog should randomly go in your back yard and eat kittens. That's crap IMO. The dog has serious issues if it's doing that, and you never know if there was a baby out there instead of a kitten. Sure you "think" it wouldn't do that to humans, but you don't know.

I still blame the owners, but IMO there's no defending a dog killing kittens randomly. It's not "normal" dog behavior. If your dog can't handle being around other animals then you need to properly keep it inside or where it can't escape your yard. That's your responsibility as owner of the pet.

My wife and I would be so sad if some rogue neighbor animal killed our dog or cats...thankfully there's not a easy way for them to get in the back yard.

[z Revis]

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All dogs are different. I don't know how to properly define "dog behavior." I don't really consider this as that unusual for a dog. I'd say if it goes after humans, then yes that's not normal. But a cat? You really think this dog saw those cats as "pets" too? What's the difference between this and him chasing down squirrels or rabbits? Is that unusual behavior too? If it is then a whole hell of a lot of dogs I've had in my life aren't/weren't normal. Granted I've had mostly Hound dogs but still.

Either way the owner is at fault. Even if the dog isn't normal, they're still at fault IMO. How do you own a dog that you know or should know has a tendency to attack/kill cats and you have a neighbor who owns cats yet you let your dog out without a leash and don't supervise him?

[kehlis]

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All dogs are different. I don't know how to properly define "dog behavior." I don't really consider this as that unusual for a dog. I'd say if it goes after humans, then yes that's not normal. But a cat? You really think this dog saw those cats as "pets" too? What's the difference between this and him chasing down squirrels or rabbits? Is that unusual behavior too? If it is then a whole hell of a lot of dogs I've had in my life aren't/weren't normal. Granted I've had mostly Hound dogs but still.

Either way the owner is at fault. Even if the dog isn't normal, they're still at fault IMO. How do you own a dog that you know or should know has a tendency to attack/kill cats and you have a neighbor who owns cats yet you let your dog out without a leash and don't supervise him?

You're arguing a point that no one disagrees with you on.


The owner is absolutely at fault but the fact of the matter is something needs to be done. You said earlier you would have a "serious talk" with the owner. What's that going to do????

If his dog killing three kittens before didn't make him do anything what's a serious talk going to accomplish.

The dog needs to either get adopted and go elsewhere or be put down, there is no way there is any other scenario.

[z Revis]

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You're arguing a point that no one disagrees with you on.


The owner is absolutely at fault but the fact of the matter is something needs to be done. You said earlier you would have a "serious talk" with the owner. What's that going to do????

If his dog killing three kittens before didn't make him do anything what's a serious talk going to accomplish.

The dog needs to either get adopted and go elsewhere or be put down, there is no way there is any other scenario.

I said this because it seemed as though Chase nor anyone else had really talked to the owner about it in a serious manner. As in.. "I'm going to call animal control if you can't contain your dog." I'd think if you love your dog enough, you'll get your **** together if someone threatens you with that.

Sounds like the dog is moving away anyway though. Hopefully that's the case.

[OSUFan_88]

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Just because a dog kills cats doesnt mean he's going to start attacking humans....

Right. But it certainly could.

[kehlis]

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http://jacksonville.com/news/georgia/2013-03-28/story/toddler-killed-her-familys-7-pit-bulls-and-pit-mixes

Very similar story with regards to behavior.

Relatives told investigators the dogs that mauled the child were essentially family pets — a mother dog and six offspring from a litter she had about 16 months ago, the sheriff said.
The dogs had their own doggie doors that let them come in and out of the house as they pleased. The family told deputies the dogs had never attacked a person, though one of them might have killed a cat, Smith said. He said relatives insisted the toddler would play with the dogs and even “use them as pillows while watching TV.”


Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/georgia...#ixzz2dxxohZPM

[Knight165]

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There is no one on this site that loves dogs as much as I do.(I'm sure equal to though ).....and I will echo a lot of sentiments here and say call animal control.
While the dog is doing what is natural, it is not acceptable behavior as a pet to 1. Leave the property of the owner....2. Wander onto the property of someone else....3. Attack or even menace ANYTHING or ANYONE on said property.
The worst part though is...that the owners of this animal allow this to happen not just once, but multiple times.


BTW.....AU...a word of advice on stopping pitbull attacks.....stay away from the head!
Seriously.....wind back and kick them in the stomach or ribs. You're lucky it released and even luckier it didn't latch on to you. You've got to stun and make it gasp for breath. A large pit latched on to my puppy a few years ago and after three punches to it's head(trust me I laid into those punches too...fractured my hand! )....I finally had to step back and just punt. Thankfully my dog has an extremely thick coat and the only puncture was to her ear(it had her by the neck....luckily the thickest part of her coat).

Good luck.

M.K.
Knight165

[Cusefan]

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When the dog killed the cats you should have called the cops asap. When you caught the dog red handed again you should have taken a picture of the dog or called the police.

If I were in your shoes, I would say to the owner if I see the dog in my hard again I will kill it myself. Dogs stop becoming cute and cuddly when they revert back to wolfs.

[slickdtc]

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If someone's dog came on my property and killed my cat, it would put me in a blind rage. My cat is like my first born, I've raised her since I was 12.

This guy is lucky it's not like that for you. And I know you live in a more rural area where this probably isn't so shocking as it is to a lot of others on here. But to know this happened multiple times for what is your niece's pet and you have to lie to cover the gruesome details.

You've let this go too far. It's one thing to not want to raise an issue. Believe me, I'll keep my mouth shut and take a lot, but ooooh if someone's dog got ahold of my cat, I'm not holding back.

I don't feel ill will towards the dog. I'm with whoever said it, but Pit Bulls make me nervous too despite having had dogs and liking dogs (I was afraid of them as a kid until we got one). It's in his nature to be aggressive towards cats in a rural area like that. It's up to your neighbor to keep him contained and it ****ing pisses me off this dog will have to get put down because he doesn't ****ing get it. I just have a hard time blaming the dog when the owner put him in a position to be vilified.

[kt-od]

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Well, I live out in the country in Texas. If my neighbors dog did that, then I would approach my neighbor and give them 1 warning. Their dog needs to stay on their property if they want to keep it. The next time I saw it, it wouldn't make it out of my yard alive. Forget animal control. I know that sounds harsh, but I did that growing up. We had a neighbors dog kill an newborn calf. We gave the owners 1 warning, that if we saw the dog again on our property we would kill it. It was a Great Dane.

Well, the next time we caught him dragging a newborn calf across the pasture by it's throat. Well, you know how the rest of the story goes.

Chase, I know that you probably live inside the city limits and animal control is probably your only option.

You have gotten some really good advice in this thread though.

[AUChase]

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I'm actually just outside the City limits.

[mgoblue]

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There is no one on this site that loves dogs as much as I do.(I'm sure equal to though ).....and I will echo a lot of sentiments here and say call animal control.
While the dog is doing what is natural, it is not acceptable behavior as a pet to 1. Leave the property of the owner....2. Wander onto the property of someone else....3. Attack or even menace ANYTHING or ANYONE on said property.
The worst part though is...that the owners of this animal allow this to happen not just once, but multiple times.


BTW.....AU...a word of advice on stopping pitbull attacks.....stay away from the head!
Seriously.....wind back and kick them in the stomach or ribs. You're lucky it released and even luckier it didn't latch on to you. You've got to stun and make it gasp for breath. A large pit latched on to my puppy a few years ago and after three punches to it's head(trust me I laid into those punches too...fractured my hand! )....I finally had to step back and just punt. Thankfully my dog has an extremely thick coat and the only puncture was to her ear(it had her by the neck....luckily the thickest part of her coat).

Good luck.

M.K.
Knight165

I'm a dog lover too, and agree as well. I know that some dogs this may be nature, so then they have to be kept on property...

That's what frustrates the most. I don't want any dogs to be put down, but to let some dog range around a neighborhood killing kittens is just crazy to me.

My former coworker got attacked while walking his dog, and he had to hit the body too...It went after his dog and he kicked the pit and it bit his leg instead. Was off leash by someone in his apartment complex, they moved away fast before anyone could do anything (he wanted medical bill help).

[Herky]

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Well, I live out in the country in Texas. If my neighbors dog did that, then I would approach my neighbor and give them 1 warning. Their dog needs to stay on their property if they want to keep it. The next time I saw it, it wouldn't make it out of my yard alive. Forget animal control. I know that sounds harsh, but I did that growing up. We had a neighbors dog kill an newborn calf. We gave the owners 1 warning, that if we saw the dog again on our property we would kill it. It was a Great Dane.

Well, the next time we caught him dragging a newborn calf across the pasture by it's throat. Well, you know how the rest of the story goes.

Chase, I know that you probably live inside the city limits and animal control is probably your only option.

You have gotten some really good advice in this thread though.

A friend of mine lives in Texas and when his neighbor's dog kept crapping in his yard (he told the neighbor 3 times about it), he hit the dog with a shovel and then told the neighbor if his dog did it again he'd hit him with it.

Texas Justice.

[Brandwin]

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A friend of mine lives in Texas and when his neighbor's dog kept crapping in his yard (he told the neighbor 3 times about it), he hit the dog with a shovel and then told the neighbor if his dog did it again he'd hit him with it.

Texas Justice.

You don't see anything wrong with that, right?